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[Need major advice]

I've never really had a good grasp of this game it feels like, and i'm playing a mage. I'm at the part where you fight the heretics and then proceed to the urn of whatever ashes, i suppose. I'm teaming with morrigen,stein and the elf assassin dude. At the beginning of the fight Stein and the elf just die so quickly and i can barely manage.

I think i have bad skills or somthing and my character along with others is always fatiuged or however its spelled. I read the whole instruction book and still can barely stand toe to toe.
Every fight is maybe i will die or i manage to win, I never have any sort of advantage.

Edit: I made Stein specialize in two handed weapons, Morrigen has shapeshifting abilties and some frost and arcane magic, and zevren specializes in duel wielding. I just got Zevren so i didn't yet have a chance to lvl him to specialize in somthing else.
strategy: I dont really tamper in this, and i don't know whats good to set ppl at.

P.S And i tried to find shale and couldn't, I even looked it up but i still can't find the place.

Modifié par Need major advice, 17 décembre 2009 - 12:58 .

[Alphakiller]

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/9/index/373907

[brelrande]

http://social.biowar...c/9/index/98039

read read read

[DirtyCleo]

You don't sound very smart to begin with. I'd read some books or something first, then worry about your gaming skills.

[Need major advice]

DirtyCleo wrote...

You don't sound very smart to begin with. I'd read some books or something first, then worry about your gaming skills.

Don't talk down to me, I don't need any mundane comment's such as this. I was hoping to attract people smart enough to understand the topic. Not some fool who totally ignores the topic and tries to troll.

[Castila]

Don't talk down to me, I don't need any mundane comment's such as this. I was hoping to attract people smart enough to understand the topic. Not some fool who totally ignores the topic and tries to troll.

Well said!!!

[Ravenman1]

Stein

[ourlorderic]

Enchantment?

[sosoam1]

Need, I think that you have a better grasp of the game than you think. If you have reached that point in the Urn quest you have cleared many difficult obstacles. Alphakiller and Brelrande posted two really good links that should help evaluate your character build and group make-up.

The fight you are trying is a difficult one. You could leave the ruins/caves and go do other quests and stuff until you feel confident in your character and skilll level and come back when you are ready.

Forget the instruction manual, as it is incomplete and contains bad information. Find and read posts in this forum about mage builds and tactics as well as tactics for your companions. My first mage was horrible until I learned the best build and tactics for me personally.

If your character doesn't seem to get any better you could start over and apply what you have learned to make your next character stronger.

Stay with it, Dragon Age is a really good game that I hope you will enjoy for many hours

[sethroskull79]

Yeah if you read this forum, you will find out a lot of good info. The people that want to help out usually have awesome advise. Search the forum using the search feature. I have found tons of good info about how to build a Mage, and now I want to try a Rogue Archer. You'll find that people usually have the same kinds of questions you do.

[Alphakiller]

Need major advice wrote...

DirtyCleo wrote...

You don't sound very smart to begin with. I'd read some books or something first, then worry about your gaming skills.

Don't talk down to me, I don't need any mundane comment's such as this. I was hoping to attract people smart enough to understand the topic. Not some fool who totally ignores the topic and tries to troll.

somehow I detect a note of hypocracy...

the two links we posted are valid links. if you had read them, you would have one of two results:
1) you would have solved your own problem, and would either tell us so or you would ignore the topic and continue on about your life.
2) you would post additional information on your party makeup, your difficulty, and what talents each character has.

with option number two, this topic would continue on as you say it was meant to: helping a person out with tactics. but i'm afraid without additional information, we can't help you.

nobody is smart enough to "understand" a topic with no information to process. to be blunt... you're either an idiot or a troll.

[Bullets McDeath]

Uh... not to ****** on your tea party, I think he was talking to the guy who trolled him and not you.

[XOGHunter246]

Well you can make being a mage make the game a walk in the park you need cone of cold, sleep, hexs and mana clash, walking nightmare there are others but these are the basics i use for mages. also do you want a damage or healer mage if healer you need different setup ofc.

[Need major advice]

Well, I have the shapeshifting up to the bear form and i unlocked blood magic but haven't been able to use any talents in it yet. I have arcane up to staff mastery, the basic fire wave spell the 1st lvl of it, Death magic up to the ones that grant health and mana upon characters that die, and i think thats about it with my mage. I'm trying to be a dmg dealer but i don't really know whats good.

Reading about character build's sounds good for me and i just might remake my character since i found out i missed getting the dog companion. But i'm really new to this forum, so i don't know all the things you should Present when you have a problem.



P.S If ppl know a really good mage and all around good build for party members and ect, plz tell me.

[Need major advice]

Alphakiller wrote...

Need major advice wrote...

DirtyCleo wrote...

You don't sound very smart to begin with. I'd read some books or something first, then worry about your gaming skills.

Don't talk down to me, I don't need any mundane comment's such as this. I was hoping to attract people smart enough to understand the topic. Not some fool who totally ignores the topic and tries to troll.

somehow I detect a note of hypocracy...

the two links we posted are valid links. if you had read them, you would have one of two results:
1) you would have solved your own problem, and would either tell us so or you would ignore the topic and continue on about your life.
2) you would post additional information on your party makeup, your difficulty, and what talents each character has.

with option number two, this topic would continue on as you say it was meant to: helping a person out with tactics. but i'm afraid without additional information, we can't help you.

nobody is smart enough to "understand" a topic with no information to process. to be blunt... you're either an idiot or a troll.

I just came back and i'm not a idiot nor a troll and i have been updating my post after reading those. But its no excuse to call someone a idiot, I'm still new here and don't know what all to post to properly get help.

[cartolis]

 ok, based on your profile it looks like you have no crowd control.



as a mage your not going to be able to go toe to toe with things.


get some spells like winters grasp, cone of cold, paralyse, or any of the others that can take a enemy out of the fight.



sten may not be the best choice as a tank. as a 2 handed warrior he is going to take a lot more damage then a sword and board tank will.



sten is is great at higher levels once he can get some of the tanking skills.

for a warrior a must get immediatly is threaten and taunt.

use tactics to have them always use threaten(it is a toggle) and use taunt when engaging mobs.

as for taunt, you may need to take control of the tank get in the middle of the mobs and then taunt as there is a range to its effect.



tactics slots are your friend.

how are you sitting for healing potions?


set a tactic for all of your npc's that is self, health, less than 50% use least powerful health potion.



for morrigan if she has some of the crowd control stuff.
set a tactic to use them.

if you use the default of controller under role she is pretty good at locking things down.



I hope that helps. there are a ton of good posts on the boards for tactics usage.

see if searching tactics will find anything for you.

good luck. the game has a bit of a learning curve but once your there its a great game that is lots of fun.

[I saved Star Wars :D]

The thread that Brelrande posted is really good for understanding tactics and tactics are really useful for hard fights. Well worth spending some time reading that and then playing around with different settings in game.

[Alphakiller]

Need major advice wrote...

Alphakiller wrote...

Need major advice wrote...

DirtyCleo wrote...

You don't sound very smart to begin with. I'd read some books or something first, then worry about your gaming skills.

Don't talk down to me, I don't need any mundane comment's such as this. I was hoping to attract people smart enough to understand the topic. Not some fool who totally ignores the topic and tries to troll.

somehow I detect a note of hypocracy...

the two links we posted are valid links. if you had read them, you would have one of two results:
1) you would have solved your own problem, and would either tell us so or you would ignore the topic and continue on about your life.
2) you would post additional information on your party makeup, your difficulty, and what talents each character has.

with option number two, this topic would continue on as you say it was meant to: helping a person out with tactics. but i'm afraid without additional information, we can't help you.

nobody is smart enough to "understand" a topic with no information to process. to be blunt... you're either an idiot or a troll.

I just came back and i'm not a idiot nor a troll and i have been updating my post after reading those. But its no excuse to call someone a idiot, I'm still new here and don't know what all to post to properly get help.

I wasn't meaning it as an insult, quite the contrary. I was just trying to bring it to your attention that the way you were behaving at the time gave me that impression.

though i'll have to admit it was a bit abrasive... and I apologize for that.

something I understand of forum ettiquitte, and anybody is free to correct me on this as it's a product of my own obversations, it's usually best to ignore those you are suspicious of being trolls. but from my perspective there was a possibility that you weren't actually trying to get negative reactions... so that's what I posted.

my point, though, is do try to be a bit more detailed

edit: on topic... what skills do your team mates have?

Modifié par Alphakiller, 17 décembre 2009 - 01:37 .

[perry2]

ourlorderic wrote...

Enchantment?

 Well said!

[Vasquez1989]

Read the links, and try diferent party setups and different tactics. First, to get Shale you need to go to the Sulcher's Pass (south of the entrance to orzammar), talk to the merchant, go to Honnleath to the south of Sulcher's Pass and make the quest there. Second, if you really don't like the skills and can't afford to restart your game from the beginning with a new character, you can use the respec mod, on the projects pages.

[Cybercat999]

I dont see much point in shapeshifting. Turn mage into one more melee toon with very limited abilities? Morrigan is great CC/dps addition, heck I would even make her into healer sooner than develop shapeshifter any further.

Modifié par Cybercat999, 17 décembre 2009 - 06:16 .

[OneBadAssMother]

Wow... you folks can be really mean O.O

Modifié par OneBadAssMother, 17 décembre 2009 - 06:25 .

[metatrans]

its pretty common to make some bad mistakes in your first playthrough. if your party isn't built very well you may have to leave the difficulty on easy to get through the game.



it might not be a bad idea to start over and apply what you've learned so your party has better performance in the next go around.



some general advice that you may want to apply:



Mages - the basic Heal spell is a very good investment of 1 talent point even if you don't want to make a healer type mage. it can really save your bacon. Crowd Control spells of all kinds are extremely important. Get something like Paralyze, Force Field (Can be used on enemies), Sleep, or Cone of Cold to help disable mobs. mages really only need 1 stat, their magic stat. some willpower is good as well but magic alone is the most important stat.



best mage spells: fireball, cone of cold, blizzard, heal, regeneration, paralyze, glyph of repulsion, forcefield, crushing prison, sleep



you won't be able to get all of those, just an idea of whats good.



Warriors - two handed is the weakest style. sword+shield can make for an excellent tank and dual wield does superb damage. Taunt is extremely effective at holding aggro on your tank, use it frequently. Armor and Defense are the most important stats for a tank. your health is much less important. dex is a better stat than constitution for this reason. warriors should concentrate on strength and dex.



best melee combat talents:

For Dual Weapons - Dual Weapon Sweep, Momentum, Riposte

For Sword+Shield - Shield Bash, Shield Pummel, Shield Tactics, Shield Wall





Rogues - dual wielding daggers and maximizing your backstab damage is the best approach for DPS as a rogue. high dexterity and cunning are the best stats. make sure you take the Lethality talent to take advantage of your cunning.



best rogue talents: dirty fighting, coup de grace, lethality, combat stealth, Momentum (from the Dual Weapons style), Riposte (from Dual Weapons style)

[Rainen89]

I still think people underestimate just how useful captivating song can be in a pinch.

[Jo_]

First off just ignore the trolls.

Now, there's guides and tips on these forums and there's many many ways of making all fights work with pretty much any setup, with that said here's some semi-accepted cookie-cutting opinions that relates to your post:

1) 2h warriors are not very good at tanking, in fact they are not very good at anything.
2) alot of fights benefit from having a tank
3) a healer is normaly a good thing, a healer in this context means primarily someone with the "heal" skill and "regeneration" skill, one healer+one mage with 1 point in heal will make most tasks very easy.
4) with herbalism and vendors with 99xelfroot/bottles/lyrium you can easily get 100's of lesser lyrium pots and lesser health pouches for a few gold if you are low on them from normal looting, this makes most content very easy.
5) shapeshifting sucks, your mage should typicly do a mix of cc/dps/heal depending on the situation and you don't do any of those well while shapeshifted.
6) There's many powerfull cc abilities but with everything taken into account I think most would agree Cone of Cold is the best one. Maybe trying it out more in fights will help.
7) Rogues should allways backstab and when they do they kill stuff Fast.. this relates to the point about a tank and about cc'd (with the ability that makes normal attacks backstabs while mobs are stunned)
8) Shale is from the downloadable content "The Stone Prisoner" after you've installed that you go to "Sulcher's Pass" to start the quest, he's a fun addition to the game but there's plenty of other characters that fill his role (tank/dps/cc), some people find him pretty strong but I never really did. Kind of like a weaker dog but with a nice range stun aswell.
9) Pause alot and micro everything when things get hard.
10) Manuals to games almost never have usefull information, gaming forums almost allways has fantastic info once you filter out all the crap.

gl hf.

Modifié par Jo_, 17 décembre 2009 - 07:52 .