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[dkjestrup]

Not to be mean, but it sounds like you've screwed up your mage.



The Arcane spells are rather rubbish. Shapeshifting sucks.



For damage, invest in the Primal Spells. I'd recommend you get Cone of Cold and Shock at least, in the ice and electric lines, first of all. Grab Heal as well.



For Crowd Control, you want Mind Blast and Mass Paralyze. Sleep is also an option.



There are other spells that are great for Single Target Crowd control, however weird that sounds. Forcefield is awesome, as is Paralyze and Crushing Prison. Use these when you cannot focus on all the enemies at once.



A huge part of the game is prioritizing your targets. For example, if you're in a fight with a boss and two lackeys, don't try and take them on all at once. Force Field the boss, and then divide and conquer the lackeys (basically, have everyone in your party focus on one of them until it's dead, THEN focus on the other).



Dividing and Conquering works great, because by reducing the number of enemies, you reduce the damage you're taking. As a general rule, always take out the damage dealers of a party first. Especially frail ones. So if you're in a fight with a healer, a tank, and a DPSer, first forcefield the healer, so whoever you target can't stay alive, then burst the DPSer. Then focus on the healer, and THEN the tank.



Just think a bit. That's why many claim the mages are overpowered. A bit yes, but really, they just have a lot of options. DPS rogues and tanks are also very good at what they do.



TLDR:



1) enter with your tank first, and focus on grabbing the agro (taunt, threaten)

2) focus on one target at a time (in big fights anyway)

3) don't use up all of your mage's MP on attack spells, save some for heals/cc

4) identify the biggest threat, usually mages

5) disable noteworthy enemies; healers, other mages, any elites with forcefield/CoC/Paralyze

6) destroy said threat

7) use your healing spells

8) Dex > Con for tanks

[DodgeMoreLightning]

The two biggest killers in the game are: mages left alone to cast, and enemies flanking your characters. The third are orange-named bosses. You have all three to deal with here. From what you say you have available, here's how to get through this fight:

Keep the boss reaver from shreding your softer characters. You need him attacking someone with high defense and high armor. The best option you have here is Sten, but he's not going to last that long. Keep an eye on him and work quickly.

Neutralize the mages by killing them. Morrigan should have sleep or be close to learning it. Sleep as many as you can, then get to rocking those mages. Freezing them with cone of cold works well too. Put the assassin on them and help him out by preventing them from casting or just dealing damage to them.

Neutralize the other reavers by controlling them, then killing them. Again, sleep is effective here, as is Cone of Cold (a spell that is effective everywhere, actually).

I'd help you out more, but I don't know what spells you gave Morrigan. You pretty much can't go wrong unless you decide to get a little of everything - that's really the only wrong answer as a Mage.

You'll realize that fights roll down hill if you quickly assess who the dangerous ones are, then eleminate them.

In general, you need to be able to heal or prevent from being hit. Both is best, but one or the other is necessary. Potions work for healing, but not great, as it's easy to run through them.

You should pick a line of spells to follow, then go down it. Spreading out over a bunch of different spell lines isn't as effective as going down a few until the end. For example, one of my characters went down the fire primal line all the way to the end, and the paralyze line all the way to the end. So basically, I use Mass Paralyze on to paralyze everyone and cook them with inferno as they're stuck looking ridiculous. Spreading those points out isn't as effective as the standing barbeque combination.

The only spell line you don't want to mess with is the one that starts with the spell "Spell Wisp." Just trust me on this. Your team isn't bad, depending on your spell choices, but you just need to figure out what your team can do well and do it often.

Need major advice wrote...

I've never really had a good grasp of this game it feels like, and i'm playing a mage. I'm at the part where you fight the heretics and then proceed to the urn of whatever ashes, i suppose. I'm teaming with morrigen,stein and the elf assassin dude. At the beginning of the fight Stein and the elf just die so quickly and i can barely manage.

I think i have bad skills or somthing and my character along with others is always fatiuged or however its spelled. I read the whole instruction book and still can barely stand toe to toe.
Every fight is maybe i will die or i manage to win, I never have any sort of advantage.

Edit: I made Stein specialize in two handed weapons, Morrigen has shapeshifting abilties and some frost and arcane magic, and zevren specializes in duel wielding. I just got Zevren so i didn't yet have a chance to lvl him to specialize in somthing else.
strategy: I dont really tamper in this, and i don't know whats good to set ppl at.

P.S And i tried to find shale and couldn't, I even looked it up but i still can't find the place.

Modifié par DodgeMoreLightning, 17 décembre 2009 - 10:07 .

[XOGHunter246]

how could i forget get fireball too for enemies like on ledges shotting arrows or mages, 
Also make sure your tank is the first thing enemies see and help support him/her. Get someone like leliana or even another mage for dps support and get a healer.
with a dps tank mage and yourself you should do fine with a healer i would advise you to get Wynne soon as possible.

Modifié par XOGHunter246, 17 décembre 2009 - 09:57 .

[Faerell Gustani]

Need major advice wrote...

I've never really had a good grasp of this game it feels like, and i'm playing a mage. I'm at the part where you fight the heretics and then proceed to the urn of whatever ashes, i suppose. I'm teaming with morrigen,stein and the elf assassin dude. At the beginning of the fight Stein and the elf just die so quickly and i can barely manage.

I think i have bad skills or somthing and my character along with others is always fatiuged or however its spelled. I read the whole instruction book and still can barely stand toe to toe.
Every fight is maybe i will die or i manage to win, I never have any sort of advantage.

Edit: I made Stein specialize in two handed weapons, Morrigen has shapeshifting abilties and some frost and arcane magic, and zevren specializes in duel wielding. I just got Zevren so i didn't yet have a chance to lvl him to specialize in somthing else.
strategy: I dont really tamper in this, and i don't know whats good to set ppl at.

P.S And i tried to find shale and couldn't, I even looked it up but i still can't find the place.

Build issues, as others have mentioned:
Shapeshifting sucks and Arcane is weak (arcane bolt is ok, but the rest of the line is weak).
Does Morrigan have Cone of Cold?  She should start with Mind Blast as well.  Those two are your primary Crowd Control abilities if aimed properly.
Her primary damage dealing should be Winter's Grasp and Lightning Bolt.

What is your main character?  If you main character is not specced for tanking, then Sten is your best bet.  What I'm not seeing in your party is healing capability.  Morrigan should really have the 1st level heal spell.

Zevran should be left to his own devices.  He only needs 3 tactics:
Self: Any: Activate mode: Momentum
Enemy: Clustered 3: Two Weapon sweep
Self: Surrounded by 2 or more Enemies: Dirty Fighting

Sten will require more micromanagement.
Keep Indominable on...if you have 2 handed Strength, then activate Powerful Swings as well.
Time your special ability usages.  Use them only immediately after he finishes his attack animation and either a "miss" or damage numbers appear from his attack.

As for targeting order, kill the mages first, then worry about the rest.

[Need major advice]

I think it's become in best interest to me to remake my character. I've been reading this forum and i've done alot of the no no's. Is there a guide somewhere saying what skills to get and what stats to increase? I finally find Shale thx to your guy's help.
Edit: Is blood magic good?

P.S ppl are making rogues sound fun.

Modifié par Need major advice, 17 décembre 2009 - 12:58 .

[Sabriana]

Cybercat999 wrote...

I dont see much point in shapeshifting. Turn mage into one more melee toon with very limited abilities? Morrigan is great CC/dps addition, heck I would even make her into healer sooner than develop shapeshifter any further.

I did that, and it worked out quite well. I was really disappointed with the 'shape-shifter' specialisation.  The mage spec I really like is 'arcane warrior', even though I think that one is a bit broken as well. Or my game keeps glitching.

Anyway, getting the 'right for you' mage build, those reading suggestions are great. But I have to agree with the other poster, Sten in not a good tank. Even dog is better imo.

I use tactics that have my tank(s) protect my rogue and mage should they get mobbed, and that also worked out well. Keep developing Zevran as a dual wielder, he's awesome, and so is Lelianna. I've not had much luck with my bowmen/women. It feels to me as if the bow is underpowered, but they usually are in games that I have played.

The best tank, imo, is Shale. Golem-girl can absorb and deal out a lot of damage.

[Psychoray]

Need major advice wrote...

I think it's become in best interest to me to remake my character. I've been reading this forum and i've done alot of the no no's. Is there a guide somewhere saying what skills to get and what stats to increase? I finally find Shale thx to your guy's help.
Edit: Is blood magic good?

P.S ppl are making rogues sound fun.

Check this out: http://social.bioware.com/project/469/ It allows you to respec your character.
If you want to be a damage dealer, go for the elemental line. Also, crowd control helps a LOT. (Cone of cold, the glyph line, the paralyze line, and the sleep line.)

Yes, blood magic is good, but it's quite different from playing a normal mage IMO. The ultimate combination is Arcane Warrior + Blood Magic according to lots of people on the forums.

Also: Force field is a must have, even after the patch. Wynne is a great addition to your party, or any other spirit healer (first 2 spririt healer spells only.)

Ehmmm... Pause. A lot. With the proper crowd control spells + damage spells you'll be a god amongst men. My mage is an Arcane Warrior/Spirit Healer and I never have to activate my Arcane Warrior skills. (AW allows you to wear armor instead of ugly mage clothing.)

And last: You COULD try to talk your way out of fighting the guy, for a while.

P.S. It's sten, not stein.

[XOGHunter246]

Need major advice wrote...

I think it's become in best interest to me to remake my character. I've been reading this forum and i've done alot of the no no's. Is there a guide somewhere saying what skills to get and what stats to increase? I finally find Shale thx to your guy's help.
Edit: Is blood magic good?

P.S ppl are making rogues sound fun.

You probably would of had another run at game anyway learn from mistakes i started again when i first played it too few time wasn't happy with my character.