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[ld1449]

chemiclord wrote...

Well, again... A Destroy ending with absolutely no cost defeats the moral dilemma placed. It has no downsides. It becomes the "right" choice in an ending scenario that can't have any in order for the dilemma to have any teeth.

Well since in Synthesis that's the only point that EDI is supposedly "alive" (completely ignoring the fact that she stated otherwise on at least two occasions before the ending of the game) and by proxy the geth would only be alive in the Utopia of Synthesis I sacrificed nothing in destroy save a bunch of glorified calculators<_<

[clennon8]

You aren't the only one, OP. I wanted a happy ending, too. No, not Disney happy, but, you know, happy.

[Ryzaki]

ld1449 wrote...

chemiclord wrote...
Well, again... A Destroy ending with absolutely no cost defeats the moral dilemma placed. It has no downsides. It becomes the "right" choice in an ending scenario that can't have any in order for the dilemma to have any teeth.

Well since in Synthesis that's the only point that EDI is supposedly "alive" (completely ignoring the fact that she stated otherwise on at least two occasions before the ending of the game) and by proxy the geth would only be alive in the Utopia of Synthesis I sacrificed nothing in destroy save a bunch of glorified calculators<_<

Honestly that pissed me off.

So she can only be truly alive in Synthesis? WTF?

[Femlob]

So Stan grants me a three-day vacation from this place, and what do I return to? Brovikk Rasputin and Father_Jerusalem being the same 'ol dicks with fingers they were three days ago. Just with even more dick - something which I hadn't thought possible.

Can't stand it that people disagree with you, hrm, guys? Stop disliking what I like, and all that jazz? Praise BioWare or die in a fire, right? How about the two of you just shut the f*ck up and accept that people have a right to complain about a product that didn't deliver on that which was advertised - not to mention the expectations built by the previous two games?

Nah, wouldn't want people to exercise their rights as both fans and customers. Better to rail on them for not appreciating the artistic vision.

[Baldrick67]

If only the makers of The Shawshank Redemption had had Biowares artistic vision and made the film more real and dark and gritty. Andy would of drowned in poo in the sewar and Red would of hung himself once released instead of the two meeting up in Mexico to have a happy ending. Damn you Disney !!!

That would of made the movie such a great tale of endurance, perserverance, friendship and redemption.

[chemiclord]

ld1449 wrote...

Well since in Synthesis that's the only point that EDI is supposedly "alive" (completely ignoring the fact that she stated otherwise on at least two occasions before the ending of the game) and by proxy the geth would only be alive in the Utopia of Synthesis I sacrificed nothing in destroy save a bunch of glorified calculators<_<

I refuse to accept that Synthesis is anything more than the biggest space hippie bong in existance, and Shepard is merely tripping on the purest peyote when he steps into that beam.

[chemiclord]

Double post somehow.

Modifié par chemiclord, 07 juillet 2012 - 02:49 .

[Femlob]

chemiclord wrote...

ld1449 wrote...

Well since in Synthesis that's the only point that EDI is supposedly "alive" (completely ignoring the fact that she stated otherwise on at least two occasions before the ending of the game) and by proxy the geth would only be alive in the Utopia of Synthesis I sacrificed nothing in destroy save a bunch of glorified calculators<_<

I refuse to accept that Synthesis is anything more than the biggest space hippie bong in existance, and Shepard is merely tripping on the purest peyote when he steps into that beam.

The green beam is actually a mojito.

[Ryzaki]

chemiclord wrote...

ld1449 wrote...

Well since in Synthesis that's the only point that EDI is supposedly "alive" (completely ignoring the fact that she stated otherwise on at least two occasions before the ending of the game) and by proxy the geth would only be alive in the Utopia of Synthesis I sacrificed nothing in destroy save a bunch of glorified calculators<_<

I refuse to accept that Synthesis is anything more than the biggest space hippie bong in existance, and Shepard is merely tripping on the purest peyote when he steps into that beam.

...you know everyone being high as a kite actually makes Synthesis bearable.

[Ariaya]

I've said this many times but I'll say it again. I would have liked to have had the option of a happy ending.

As far as the reality of real life war goes, of course it's hell and there really are no true victors.

But this isn't a realistic story. It's space opera. For two games, my Shepard was able to achieve the impossible amidst what seemed like insurmountable odds. I admit it; I expected that one of the ME3 endings would allow for the same.

The writers didn't choose to go in that direction. Am I disappointed? Yes. Did it ruin the trilogy for me? No. (at least EC made the game replayable)

But to the OP--I do agree, a happy ending option would have been wonderful and I really wish that Bioware had implemented one.

[chemiclord]

Ryzaki wrote...

chemiclord wrote...

ld1449 wrote...

Well since in Synthesis that's the only point that EDI is supposedly "alive" (completely ignoring the fact that she stated otherwise on at least two occasions before the ending of the game) and by proxy the geth would only be alive in the Utopia of Synthesis I sacrificed nothing in destroy save a bunch of glorified calculators<_<

I refuse to accept that Synthesis is anything more than the biggest space hippie bong in existance, and Shepard is merely tripping on the purest peyote when he steps into that beam.

...you know everyone being high as a kite actually makes Synthesis bearable.

I call it the Intoxication Theory.

[Iakus]

Baldrick67 wrote...

If only the makers of The Shawshank Redemption had had Biowares artistic vision and made the film more real and dark and gritty. Andy would of drowned in poo in the sewar and Red would of hung himself once released instead of the two meeting up in Mexico to have a happy ending. Damn you Disney !!!

That would of made the movie such a great tale of endurance, perserverance, friendship and redemption.

Heck, go back a decade or so to Baldur's Gate 2:  Throne of Bhaal:

"Want to turn down godhood and destroy the Bhaalspawn essence?  Okay, but you'll kill all the elves in Faerun.  Just sayin'"

[felipejiraya]

They should have made a happy ending even if in the future it would not be considered canon just to give the fans the feeling of mission accomplished.

[Argetfalcon]

hopefully bioware will learn from their mistakes

[garrusfan1]

OP your not alone I personally wanted at least an OPTION for a happy ending. Sorry I don't play video games to get depressed if I wanted to do that I would watch the news

[Auckmid]

You're not alone. However, there might still be a hope. The leviathan spoilers were discovered inside of an EC file. Nothing conclusive, but it may suggest that leviathan does affect the ending.

[Matt2222]

D24O wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

Well, he just woke up after falling a very long way, and since we only see a couple of seconds of footage, how do you know that no one is around to help? You're assuming the worst. 

IMO they could've had Coates or Baily, or even Aria coming along to pick him up in the breath scene. Would've been easy to make a lot of people happy IMO, just adding this would shut up all the people who don;t get that he lives.

u can say that again......

[Asch Lavigne]

I got a happy ending with the EC version of the destroy ending. Kill Reapers and Shep lives.

[shodiswe]

If you pick Control or synthesis everyone that is alive whne you pick it will survive, except for shepard, if you pick destroy most people survive, but the friendly synthetic people you meet on your jouney will die.  Maybe one and a half billion dead or more..

If the Geth are dead before you get to make a pick I woudl say that Destroy suddenly gains more merit, if you were forced to pick betwee geth and Quorians, but that's meta gaming. And it still doesn't make it better....

The ending are pretty happy imo, I don't know how they coudl be made happier... After all there was a war.... Do you want space magic that tells you the war never happend?

Modifié par shodiswe, 07 juillet 2012 - 08:35 .

[marcustheMezz]

 I don't know why people think it is out of the question, this wasn't supposed to be a dark, depressing series, it was supposed to end in so many different ways, how come one, just one happy ending seems like so much to ask? 

[darkpassenger2342]

if all you guys want is a cliche ending, cant you just convince yourselves? i mean, you already know exactly what you want to see, right? make it so!
sacrifice is one of,  if not the most important, theme of mass effect.
 theres no sacrifice in happy endings.

Modifié par darkpassenger2342, 07 juillet 2012 - 06:54 .

[Yeulia]

shodiswe wrote...

If you pick Control or synthesis everyone that is alive whne you pick it will survive, except for shepard, if you pick destroy most people but the friendly synthetic people you meet on your jouney will die.

from the way you worded that you make it sound like EVERYONE but the synthetics dies in destroy when in fact only synthetics die in destroy. 

people were sacrificed in mass effect, look at that gigantic wall of names embedded in stone on the normandy and even more so when you look at the civilians trapped in refuge camps looking for parents, loved ones, grieving lost planets, etc.. there was plenty of loss. that doesn't mean that you can't see the light somehow and in some way. 

anywho, i agree with the fact that ME was never really a depressing story. if everyone wants a depressing story go play heavy rain..that's depressing and even that has sooooo many ending options with even an option for a really nice happy ending. -gasp-  the point is i would have liked an option at the very least (coughgarrusmahmancough).

Modifié par Yeulia, 07 juillet 2012 - 07:03 .

[GreyLycanTrope]

An ending that rewards the effort I put into building up the fleet and getting everyone out alive on the suicide mission? One where I can destroy the reapers without sacrificing all other synthetics? Yes please.

[darkpassenger2342]

Yeulia wrote...

shodiswe wrote...

If you pick Control or synthesis everyone that is alive whne you pick it will survive, except for shepard, if you pick destroy most people but the friendly synthetic people you meet on your jouney will die.

from the way you worded that you make it sound like EVERYONE but the synthetics dies in destroy when in fact only synthetics die in destroy. 

people were sacrificed in mass effect, look at that gigantic wall of names embedded in stone on the normandy and even more so when you look at the civilians trapped in refuge camps looking for parents, loved ones, grieving lost planets, etc.. there was plenty of loss. that doesn't mean that you can't see the light somehow and in some way. 

anywho, i agree with the fact that ME was never really a depressing story. if everyone wants a depressing story go play heavy rain..that's depressing and even that has sooooo many ending options with even an option for a really nice happy ending. -gasp-  the point is i would have liked an option at the very least (coughgarrusmahmancough).

what??? the opening sequence of ME2 is one of the saddest and darkest cutscenes ever!!!!!! the first human spectre, the savior of all, alone, in space, dead, with no hope for humanity, revived for possibly evil purposes by the second greatest threat to the universe???
 how is that not a dark story???

Modifié par darkpassenger2342, 07 juillet 2012 - 07:08 .

[Yeulia]

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

Yeulia wrote...

shodiswe wrote...

If you pick Control or synthesis everyone that is alive whne you pick it will survive, except for shepard, if you pick destroy most people but the friendly synthetic people you meet on your jouney will die.

from the way you worded that you make it sound like EVERYONE but the synthetics dies in destroy when in fact only synthetics die in destroy. 

people were sacrificed in mass effect, look at that gigantic wall of names embedded in stone on the normandy and even more so when you look at the civilians trapped in refuge camps looking for parents, loved ones, grieving lost planets, etc.. there was plenty of loss. that doesn't mean that you can't see the light somehow and in some way. 

anywho, i agree with the fact that ME was never really a depressing story. if everyone wants a depressing story go play heavy rain..that's depressing and even that has sooooo many ending options with even an option for a really nice happy ending. -gasp-  the point is i would have liked an option at the very least (coughgarrusmahmancough).

what??? the opening sequence of ME2 is one of the saddest and darkest cutscenes ever!!!!!! the first human spectre, the savior of all, alone, in space, dead, with no hope for humanity, revived for possibly evil purposes by the second greatest threat to the universe???
 how is that not a dark story???

and everything went better than expected...lol 
just because it began really really dark doesn't mean it ended dark. he/she kicked ass and took names by the end of ME2 and i think that's the general message. the odds look bleak as hell but somehow you get past it and move on but not without consequence. there were massive consequences in ME3, and this is me speaking from a destroy standpoint (obv. there were implications of the other choices as well) but with the EC the epilogue voiceover slideshow sounds like everything was turning out alright it just takes time. but yeah my point was i would've liked an option for more happiness especially after playing a decision based game like heavy rain which was rooted in depression (even though i understand they are not the same sort of gameplay).