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[galaxy366]

So the Higgs Boson really reminds me of Element Zero, while it doesn't increase or decrease mass the Higgs does control it.

So maybe in 10 years we can master the Higgs to have a mass less vessel !!

What do you people think? Is the Higgs the key to unlocking faster then light?

[Sil]

Hehe, as lovely as that thought is, we have only really seen a shadow of the Higgs-Boson particle. It would take an awful long time for any practical applications to come from this, but you never know what the future holds.

Maybe this is the precursor to a technology that takes us beyond this star system. We can only hope, really.

[Gruntburner]

We won't have any practical applications for the Higgs for quite some time. The laws of physics at the subatomic level are very different than the macroscopic level. There are tons of phenomena at the subatomic level that seem amazing (teleportation among them) but because this only happens with small particles, translating the effects to trillions of particles to simultaneously effect more complex objects, such as people, is extremely implausible.

[Jonesey2k]

Not in our lifetime anyway!
Was anyone else hoping that when they thought nuetrinos had went FTL it was true?

[DrakeMan169]

Jonesey2k wrote...

Not in our lifetime anyway!
Was anyone else hoping that when they thought nuetrinos had went FTL it was true?

Yes!

[Aceattack]

Einstein theory of general relativity leaves the possibility of faster than light travel through what would be called special relativity. In essence it allows for space/time to be folded in on it self through any of the speculated phenomena that were postulated. Such as a Einstein Rosen bridge (wormhole) or the uniform reduction of mass to the point of null mass (IE Mass effect field). Al though the problem with that is at higher speeds space time would be effected. Now whats this nerdgasm all about, FTL is possible.

[tanisha__unknown]

Unlikely. Only to study it synchrotons were required, particle accelarators several kilometers in diameter.From a technical point of view, they ar ehard to fit into a space ship.

[Naugi]

Looking forward to the first contact war when we finally make out there ...

[capncraycray]

I'm looking forward to blue pole dancers.

[K2LU533]

Also, this...

http://news.uk.msn.c...entid=250495409

[Swordfishtrombone]

Very unlikely that it is possible to prevent particles from interacting with the higgs, to reduce or eliminate their mass - and even more unlikely that it is possible to do for large scale objects. And if it is theoretically possible in some way, I suspect that the energies needed to achieve such a feat would make it practically impossible.

And even if you could eliminate the mass of an object (without damaging or destroying the object), that wouldn't mean that that object would be able to travel faster than light. It would mean that it would be able to reach light speed, but not exceed it.

Such a technology, if it were to turn out to be possible, would make travelling between stars a little more plausible - travel times would be in terms of years and decades, instead of tens or hundeds of thousands of years.

I am pessimistic on this issue though - I suspect humanity will not achieve that kinds of speeds, and I really don't think that there's a "star treck" or "mass effect" kinda future in store for us - or any other intelligent species in our universe.

[Tokion]

Naugi wrote...

Looking forward to the first contact war when we finally make out there ...

First contact war with M4A1 and AK47? WE ARE NOT READY PEOPLE!!

[Jonesey2k]

First contact war with MLRS.... Aka, the grid square removal system

[Trentest0]

Swordfishtrombone wrote...

Very unlikely that it is possible to prevent particles from interacting with the higgs, to reduce or eliminate their mass - and even more unlikely that it is possible to do for large scale objects. And if it is theoretically possible in some way, I suspect that the energies needed to achieve such a feat would make it practically impossible.

And even if you could eliminate the mass of an object (without damaging or destroying the object), that wouldn't mean that that object would be able to travel faster than light. It would mean that it would be able to reach light speed, but not exceed it.

Such a technology, if it were to turn out to be possible, would make travelling between stars a little more plausible - travel times would be in terms of years and decades, instead of tens or hundeds of thousands of years.

I am pessimistic on this issue though - I suspect humanity will not achieve that kinds of speeds, and I really don't think that there's a "star treck" or "mass effect" kinda future in store for us - or any other intelligent species in our universe.

A big BLLARRRG to you, sir. 

If everyone had that attitude then we definatly would never make it off this rock 

[Adrian Shepherd]

Swordfishtrombone wrote...

Very unlikely that it is possible to prevent particles from interacting with the higgs, to reduce or eliminate their mass - and even more unlikely that it is possible to do for large scale objects. And if it is theoretically possible in some way, I suspect that the energies needed to achieve such a feat would make it practically impossible.

And even if you could eliminate the mass of an object (without damaging or destroying the object), that wouldn't mean that that object would be able to travel faster than light. It would mean that it would be able to reach light speed, but not exceed it.

Such a technology, if it were to turn out to be possible, would make travelling between stars a little more plausible - travel times would be in terms of years and decades, instead of tens or hundeds of thousands of years.

I am pessimistic on this issue though - I suspect humanity will not achieve that kinds of speeds, and I really don't think that there's a "star treck" or "mass effect" kinda future in store for us - or any other intelligent species in our universe.

I disagree with light speed as the top speed. Light speed is the fastest speed we can perceive, not achieve. 

[AL JA]

I am with the OP. out of blind nerdy optimism.

[Ericus]

Swordfishtrombone wrote...

And even if you could eliminate the mass of an object (without damaging or destroying the object), that wouldn't mean that that object would be able to travel faster than light. It would mean that it would be able to reach light speed, but not exceed it.

Such a technology, if it were to turn out to be possible, would make travelling between stars a little more plausible - travel times would be in terms of years and decades, instead of tens or hundeds of thousands of years.

As far as we know right now, the speed of light is the absolute speed limit for 'conventional' travel in the universe (hence the need for wormholes or something else entirely).  So, massless ships would still take years to reach even the nearest stars.

But, the upside would be that it would become very easy for us to colonize the solar system.  Imagine being able to get to Mars in 5 minutes!  Or Titan in just over an hour!  Relativistic time distortion wouldn't really matter over such short distances either, so I'd see this as a huge step forward.

[Sarah_SR2]

As far as I can ascertainfrom what I've read these past few days, the Higgs Boson is not a particle that exists or can exist in the natural state of the universe. The particle is created under very certain circumstances and very rapidly decays into other known particles that can and do exist naturally, such as quarks. What the Higgs does is impart mass to particles it decays into and that Higgs particle ceased to exist. This is why it's been so hard to observe and indeed it still hasn't been officially confirmed. I guess the Higgs only existed at the very birth of the universe? So, the Higgs cannot help us develop FTL or stuff like that but it does expand our knowledge of how the universe was created.

[Tazzmission]

for those who dont know we did find buildings,ruins on mars


same with the moon


i highly suggest you look into it

[Armass81]

Design by Adrian wrote...

Swordfishtrombone wrote...

Very unlikely that it is possible to prevent particles from interacting with the higgs, to reduce or eliminate their mass - and even more unlikely that it is possible to do for large scale objects. And if it is theoretically possible in some way, I suspect that the energies needed to achieve such a feat would make it practically impossible.

And even if you could eliminate the mass of an object (without damaging or destroying the object), that wouldn't mean that that object would be able to travel faster than light. It would mean that it would be able to reach light speed, but not exceed it.

Such a technology, if it were to turn out to be possible, would make travelling between stars a little more plausible - travel times would be in terms of years and decades, instead of tens or hundeds of thousands of years.

I am pessimistic on this issue though - I suspect humanity will not achieve that kinds of speeds, and I really don't think that there's a "star treck" or "mass effect" kinda future in store for us - or any other intelligent species in our universe.

I disagree with light speed as the top speed. Light speed is the fastest speed we can perceive, not achieve. 

I also disagree, we dont know whats possible yet, its not too wise to say " we now know everything there is to know about this and that and its never going to change". Men of limited vision usually put up these claims.

"Everything that can be invented has been invented."

--Charles H. Duell, Commissioner, U.S. Office of Patents, 1899.

"Heavier-than-air flying machines are impossible."

--Lord Kelvin, president, Royal Society, 1895.

What do these people have to say now? Probably nothing, since theyre dead.

Shows what they knew... heh. They even called the Higgs guy who spoke about this "crazy". Men of limited vision, it never seems to change. Thank god we have inventors who eventually come through and not nay sayers, otherwise we would still be living in caves.

In 1000 years we could be well on our way of populating the nearby star systems. With FTL ships no less. And who knows what we have in 10000 years. Think of the possibilities. If we survive that long that is, and I as a positive person like to believe that we will.

Modifié par Armass81, 07 juillet 2012 - 09:23 .

[AlexMBrennan]

Well, as long as there's no Godchild...

[Kalms]

Tazzmission wrote...

for those who dont know we did find buildings,ruins on mars


same with the moon


i highly suggest you look into it

[Tazzmission]

interesting read here about life particles on mars dated last month


http://www.scienceda...20705194142.htm


The fascinating martian ruins of Hale Crater - 01


http://www.o-enigma-...H_01_intro.html

[Tazzmission]

jreezy wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

for those who dont know we did find buildings,ruins on mars


same with the moon


i highly suggest you look into it

Must've been Prothean ruins.

according to guys like john lear they look pretty much like humans but more advanced


john lear flew basicly every military plane in his career as a air force pilot

his dad is the man who created the lear jet