Optimystic_X wrote...
Mangalores wrote...
The Geth scenario is more likely: "Oh, sunshine, we have enough energy, let's compute PI"
If left alone that's exactly what they would do. But organics have a problem with leaving them alone, because they are such powerful weapons. The Xens and TIMs of the world wouldn't stand for it. And even if we did leave an existing race alone, we'd still be trying to make our own to get that edge.
Say it's a 99% chance they get destroyed by us, and of the 1% that remains, a 0.9999% chance that they evolve to a level that we can't follow and leave us behind forever. Even if it's only a 0.0001% chance they actually turn hostile and are too powerful to beat, that means that at some point over millions of years that will come to pass. Even that tiny chance is too high odds.
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Too high odds for what? Why is total destruction for an totally overpowering AI supposedly the only option? The options increase ever more as the power ratio gets more lopsided towards one side. The stronger the AI the more options it has to neutralize a threat without killing most or even many organics.
And even then they destroy all organics at this moment in time in the galaxy. It still begs the question why the AI would continue to eradicate all other organics that would develop in the following millions of years. Again, what is the supposed motivation for that? Because organics always want to kill AI? Why? The Quarians had a direct reason why they tried to kill the Geth. None else cared. And if the AI had a headstart of a couple of millions of years it would be untouchable by organics for even more eons so it would not have a reason to consider organics a threat at all. They are just the stuff that lives on those rare green planets over there, plenty of real estate for an artificial race to move somewhere else.
In order for the AI to come to the conclusion to kill everything you have to make dumber which is proposed to be false, the idea is it gets smarter faster than organics do. We judge intelligence on how well someone is in ascertaining a situation and how precisely he is capable to implement specific measures. The dumb solution is to fire 1000 artillery pieces in the vague direction of something, the smart one is to drop 1 bomb on the right building at the right time. Guess what causes less deaths to _both_ sides while still nominating one side the absolute victor?
The Reapers are the best example: You essentially have to turn them into mindless automatons following faulty logic to do what they do. The only reason for an intelligence to come to such unsophisticated conclusions is when it is stupid.
Finally, given that organics need things like water, food, gravity and air, I don't necessarily buy the notion that we need less energy. You don't see the Geth having to farm, for instance.
The only real difference between articial machines and organics is that organics use kitchen chemistry. We can evolve without intervention on planets with really bland energy characteristics on the most common elements of the universe. The very development of mankind is its exponential capacity at accessing ever greater energy resources not easily accessible creating machines working with materials you don't naturally find that easily because they are extremely specific and finetuned systems in comparison. That would also be the potential an AI or race of AI would tap into.
Also the difference in power would be this difference in access to power because it would inform production capabilities, science and information technology, for an AI the basis to self improve.
It kind of follows the idea of entropy. Humans use very little energy from very large systems like a planet. There is lots of energy to be had from a very big, open system. An ever growing AI might continue to harness ever more energy to supply an ever bigger processing capacity from an ever bigger system (e.g. instead of just a small faction of the sun it might harness the entirety of a star's energy and since we are in a SF universe an AI would harness an even bigger amount of energy from anything like dark energy over black holes to the galactic core)
Heck, the galactic core might be a perfect place for such an AI. Tons of energy and no pesky humans.
Modifié par Mangalores, 24 janvier 2014 - 09:21 .
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