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Jade8aby88 wrote...

R.I.P Conniving_Eagle.

17/06/2012
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26/09/2012

A young, lovely lad. He was taken much before his time.

As a fresh face to the BSN he clearly displayed a lovely and emotional opinion. It is truly a pity how this forum churned him up, and spat him out into a cynical shadow of his former self.

May his unfair and unwarranted permaban be a symbol of the marketing tool these forums have become.

Lest we forget.



What? He was banned for good? Oh for the love of.... :(

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Oni Changas

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My thoughts on EC and people who like it but hated the RGB



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Jade8aby88 wrote...

R.I.P Conniving_Eagle.

17/06/2012
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26/09/2012

A young, lovely lad. He was taken much before his time.

As a fresh face to the BSN he clearly displayed a lovely and emotional opinion. It is truly a pity how this forum churned him up, and spat him out into a cynical shadow of his former self.

May his unfair and unwarranted permaban be a symbol of the marketing tool these forums have become.

Lest we forget.



.... :crying:

#204
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OniTYME wrote...

My thoughts on EC and people who like it but hated the RGB


Very nice vid there. :)

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Jade8aby88 wrote...

R.I.P Conniving_Eagle.

17/06/2012
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26/09/2012

A young, lovely lad. He was taken much before his time.

As a fresh face to the BSN he clearly displayed a lovely and emotional opinion. It is truly a pity how this forum churned him up, and spat him out into a cynical shadow of his former self.

May his unfair and unwarranted permaban be a symbol of the marketing tool these forums have become.

Lest we forget.


Any idea what post finally did him in?

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I don't think the EC ending of ME3 is perfect, but I do like it and felt that it provided sufficient closure for reasons some people have already stated.

The disagreement that I did want to take the time to voice is the assertion that the synthesis ending is the "worst" ending. Yes, you create a new type of DNA, but you do NOT destroy the diversity inherent in different races, cultures, etc. The quarians are still the quarians, the turians are still the turians, etc. In the cutscenes you clearly see that the cultures of each civilization have been preserved. Really all that's changed is that everyone has a new type of DNA (I'll call it DNA2). But just because everyone in the synthesis ending has DNA2 doesn't mean that diversity is destroyed. After all, all creatures on Earth have "DNA," but they have different strands and combinations of the same type of thing.

I may not have explained this as clearly as I would have liked (I wasn't a bio major or anything), but does that make sense? It doesn't 100% debunk the assertion that all races think the same way now, but I think it definitely makes the point fairly debatable.

Modifié par Jasons073, 30 septembre 2012 - 04:25 .


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+1 OP

I'm with you all the way : how to destroy 5 years of gaming experience to people believing in Bioware...

Lies, plotholes, back explanations through DLC, copy/paste ending, space magic...

What a pile of craphorse...

JPR out!

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AlanC9 wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

R.I.P Conniving_Eagle.

17/06/2012
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26/09/2012

A young, lovely lad. He was taken much before his time.

As a fresh face to the BSN he clearly displayed a lovely and emotional opinion. It is truly a pity how this forum churned him up, and spat him out into a cynical shadow of his former self.

May his unfair and unwarranted permaban be a symbol of the marketing tool these forums have become.

Lest we forget.


Any idea what post finally did him in?


I'm guessing anyone caught posting in this thread had serious account-actions placed on them. That aside, how do we know that Conniving_Eagle isn't taking a break or is just under a temporary forum ban?

Edit: To stay topical, this is actually the first time I've seen this thread.

Modifié par N7 Lisbeth, 30 septembre 2012 - 05:21 .


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Hmm, so the Eagle is gone then? Shame, though I don't think BSN did him much good. The frustration of being sane in a nuthouse plays nasty tricks on the soul.

Ah well, he was good people.

Modifié par SpamBot2000, 30 septembre 2012 - 08:54 .


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N7 Lisbeth wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

R.I.P Conniving_Eagle.

17/06/2012
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26/09/2012

A young, lovely lad. He was taken much before his time.

As a fresh face to the BSN he clearly displayed a lovely and emotional opinion. It is truly a pity how this forum churned him up, and spat him out into a cynical shadow of his former self.

May his unfair and unwarranted permaban be a symbol of the marketing tool these forums have become.

Lest we forget.


Any idea what post finally did him in?


I'm guessing anyone caught posting in this thread had serious account-actions placed on them. That aside, how do we know that Conniving_Eagle isn't taking a break or is just under a temporary forum ban?

Edit: To stay topical, this is actually the first time I've seen this thread.



it was in that other thread that got deleted, he PM'd us saying he got perma-banned

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There isn't much we can do about the endings anymore at this point, surely we've all have our personal feelings about them, I still despise them but most of my problems with them isn't necessarily about the morality behind the choices, or the logic of the Catalyst, or even the actual sequences, it's the context and presentation that are in my view most destrutive to the endings and what turned many people off at the first instance and what the EC doesn't really seem fix, allow me to eleborate

Now be warned that this next section is purely my interperation , but when i was playing the first timeI knew things were going wrong when i Saw Shepard all bloody near, beam, I was almost certain that he was going to die within 10 minutes, and even mockingly thought "so much Shepard", but what's crucial here and in the sequences that follow is the fact that everything feels vague and shellshocked, making the context next to impossible to understand if you're just average player, there's simple not enough detail to make us understand our surroundings or action, The sequence with TIM on the citadel happens and soon i was with Starchild, but what's important that this point i wasn't even thinking any more this point i was just purely foccusing on what starbrat had to say, my mind filled with a great emptiness, what follows is the presentation of control and destroy (EMS Was too low for Synthesis) and when conversation is over i instatly walked up to the destroy pipe and shoot it  and watched the orginal epilogie happen with still that empty feeling in my head, This however was in great contrast to the Council choice of Mass Effect 1 and to a lesser extent also the Collector base option of Mass Effect 2, where I as player am consciously making a decision that could affect the balance of power in the universe, See i understood the context of the situation of what's going on in Mass Effect 1 and even Mass Effect 2 with all its faults, Where's Mass Effect 3 left me with this hollow feeling.  

So, that's my view on the subject, Lack of context and clear presentation is what's most destructive to the ending in my opinion, Extened cut does fix some of the issues, and the epilogues are a welcome addition, but it fails to touch the heart of the problem which is the lack of a clear understanding of the ongoing situation.

Modifié par Fixers0, 30 septembre 2012 - 09:29 .


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The op is so right!!!! i could not have said it better myself!!!!. make it happend bioware change the god awful ending....

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I understand that many where disappointed with the ending. It has been expressed many times. But to still be complaining about it seven months later tells me that you may be taking the situation a bit too seriously. I think that you should take some time to play something else and enjoy it. Have fun with it. Then revisit your favorite Mass Effect game from the trilogy with your favorite Shepard. Games are about having fun by yourself or with a friend.

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Alien Number Six wrote...

I understand that many where disappointed with the ending. It has been expressed many times. But to still be complaining about it seven months later tells me that you may be taking the situation a bit too seriously. I think that you should take some time to play something else and enjoy it. Have fun with it. Then revisit your favorite Mass Effect game from the trilogy with your favorite Shepard. Games are about having fun by yourself or with a friend.


I don't think anyone takes it too seriously, but because of people who whinged about the mako and elevators - I didn't get them in my future games....

..so now I'm going to complain until I get what I want for one simple reason....EQUALITY!1!! ..and in a kind of round about way ... REVENGE!!1!! (on ayone really, doesn't matter who...)

But in all seriousness, everyone does go off an play other games (well, probably everyone) - but we can't exactly come onto these forums and discuss other games pros and cons exclusively - these are the Mass Effect forums - limited things have come out for ME3 since release - so we'll keep discussing the most recent top issue until the next big thing comes along.

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Jade8aby88 wrote...

R.I.P Conniving_Eagle.

17/06/2012
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26/09/2012

A young, lovely lad. He was taken much before his time.

As a fresh face to the BSN he clearly displayed a lovely and emotional opinion. It is truly a pity how this forum churned him up, and spat him out into a cynical shadow of his former self.

May his unfair and unwarranted permaban be a symbol of the marketing tool these forums have become.

Lest we forget.


His sacrifice will be honored in the Volus empire.

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MegaSovereign wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

R.I.P Conniving_Eagle.

17/06/2012
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26/09/2012

A young, lovely lad. He was taken much before his time.

As a fresh face to the BSN he clearly displayed a lovely and emotional opinion. It is truly a pity how this forum churned him up, and spat him out into a cynical shadow of his former self.

May his unfair and unwarranted permaban be a symbol of the marketing tool these forums have become.

Lest we forget.


His sacrifice will be honored in the Lemon empire.

Don't forget 7IH!

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Alien Number Six wrote...

I understand that many where disappointed with the ending. It has been expressed many times. But to still be complaining about it seven months later tells me that you may be taking the situation a bit too seriously. I think that you should take some time to play something else and enjoy it. Have fun with it. Then revisit your favorite Mass Effect game from the trilogy with your favorite Shepard. Games are about having fun by yourself or with a friend.


BioWare do not share your view of games as "about having fun." The BioWare Doctrine calls for games to lure you in with a fun and rewarding experience, only to grind you down into misery at the end. For such is life, and by extension Art. BioWare are the heel of the Reaper stomping on the face of Humanity forever.

Modifié par SpamBot2000, 30 septembre 2012 - 10:09 .


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SpamBot2000 wrote...

Alien Number Six wrote...

I understand that many where disappointed with the ending. It has been expressed many times. But to still be complaining about it seven months later tells me that you may be taking the situation a bit too seriously. I think that you should take some time to play something else and enjoy it. Have fun with it. Then revisit your favorite Mass Effect game from the trilogy with your favorite Shepard. Games are about having fun by yourself or with a friend.


BioWare do not share your view of games as "about having fun." The BioWare Doctrine calls for games to lure you in with a fun and rewarding experience, only to grind you down into misery at the end. For such is life, and by extension Art. BioWare are the heel of the Reaper stomping on the face of Humanity forever.



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MegaSovereign wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

R.I.P Conniving_Eagle.

17/06/2012
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26/09/2012

A young, lovely lad. He was taken much before his time.

As a fresh face to the BSN he clearly displayed a lovely and emotional opinion. It is truly a pity how this forum churned him up, and spat him out into a cynical shadow of his former self.

May his unfair and unwarranted permaban be a symbol of the marketing tool these forums have become.

Lest we forget.


His sacrifice will be honored by the Dinosaurs.

He will be missed...

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Don't get me wrong. I didn't think the end of the game was that great either. But I did have a lot of fun playing Mass Effect 3. I grew up playing an Atari 2600. With each new system to emerge the games got bigger and better. I loved Mass Effect 3 and I can't wait to play Mass Effect on PS3. I want to see more Mass Effect in the future. I'm sorry SpamBot2000 if Mass Effect 3 ruined your love for the series but not everyone feels the way you do. I understand that my opinion is in the minority but sometimes I get bogged down in the negativity of some of the people on the fourms. I stand by my statement. If you are still complaining about the ending seven months later you are taking the game too seriously. Take a deep breath and play something else for your own sake. That much negativity is unhealthy.

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I know it is unhealthy, but unhealthy happens. ME3 seriously triggered a depressive episode for me. And I'm not alone in this, I've long ago lost count of people I've seen refer to this game in terms of the Kubler-Ross stages of grieving. I'm really thankful to lots of people on BSN sharing my opinion, as discovering I was not alone in feeling so bad about this thing that was supposed to entertain me made a big difference.

As for BioWare, I'm really extremely surprised by their lack of understanding of their own medium. And judging by their comments, they still don't seem to get it. So maybe certain things bear repeating.

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Wow@ banning Eagle. What'd she do? =<