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[wright1978]

Xilizhra wrote...

Fauxnormal wrote...

No, you're not the only one. The people who complain about her have no logical or sound arguments, and honestly they're ****ing just to ****. It's 'cool' to dislike her or be offended by her or some nonsense BS.

She's a cool gal. I like her.

I think people have less of a problem with her and more one with what she represents, i.e. getting rid of the previous two reporters. She's not a bad person by any means, and I don't dislike her as such, I'd just rather have Emily Wong (including as a romance option... maybe not one I'd take, given Liara, but still).

I have a problem with her because she is such a poorly conceived reporter character , especially when placed in comparison to the 2 well conceived reporters they already had in the series. Then there's the poor voice acting. Then there's the fact that all the time and effort(resources) could have been used on other characters , who suffered from having minimal time and effort put into their roles.

[SlottsMachine]

I know its not fair, but for me Jessica Chobot has become the face of everything that is wrong with ME3. Well in addition to Hudson and Walters. Also that dress and the sexual innuendo wasn't my thing.

[weedyfun]

no, i don't like her. that face, that dress, that attitude. just want to toss that woman out of the airlock.

[LanceSolous13]

wright1978 wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Fauxnormal wrote...

No, you're not the only one. The people who complain about her have no logical or sound arguments, and honestly they're ****ing just to ****. It's 'cool' to dislike her or be offended by her or some nonsense BS.

She's a cool gal. I like her.

I think people have less of a problem with her and more one with what she represents, i.e. getting rid of the previous two reporters. She's not a bad person by any means, and I don't dislike her as such, I'd just rather have Emily Wong (including as a romance option... maybe not one I'd take, given Liara, but still).

I have a problem with her because she is such a poorly conceived reporter character , especially when placed in comparison to the 2 well conceived reporters they already had in the series. Then there's the poor voice acting. Then there's the fact that all the time and effort(resources) could have been used on other characters , who suffered from having minimal time and effort put into their roles.

Its a combo of Voice Acting and her character not being needed at all and the existance of the shllowest of Shepard's possible LIs. Her really bad looking model is something I can look past to a point.

In her ambient Dialogue on the Citadel, She has no pacing and emotion to the words she's saying. The random Civilian Aller's is bugging before she catches sight of Shepard has a much better delivery of lines than she does, making the difference painfully obvious

Her ambient dialogue on the Normandy lacks the emotion of the stories shes telling. Thessia being overtaken by the Reapers is the fall of the most advanced race in this cycle. Cerberus' experiments in Sanctuary were by far some of the most disturbing things that could happen. A place called SANCTUARY had that going on. And she delivers them like a Game Show Host or a Reality TV Announcer. "Coming up on *dramatic pause* The Battlespace" is laughably bad.

Why she is an LI is beyond baffeling. Why? Just....Why? The entire series makes every romance, even the ones that don't unlock paramour, to have depth to them and the phrase "We'll bang, ok?" has never been this appropreate. The last time there was something like this, it was the Consort in ME1 and that had quite the uproar. Morinth's romance kills you to say "Shallow Romances (with a Death-by-Sex Asari) are bad for you". She no where needed to be an LI ontop of everything else.

[10K]

The woman looked like a chipmuck, and the first time I saw her hit on my shepard I swear I vomited in my mouth. Her character was totally bland. If they wanted a reporter they should have use Emily wong instead of killing her on twitter.

[Wulfram]

She's OK. The little interviews are kind of worthwhile, the rest is pretty pointless but harmless.

The VO is pretty bad by recent Bioware standards, though I've played plenty of games where it wouldn't stand out at all.

(And the face scan is really bad, yeah)

Modifié par Wulfram, 07 juillet 2012 - 10:25 .

[Russalka]

Did I miss something, or did they actually say they killed of Emily Wong just for her?

Because the actress who played Emily Wong did other characters in other ME games aswell, but did not return for ME3, I was thinking maybe something from her side got in the way.

I do not hate Diana Allers. Her lines sound a bit off, but they are not the worst I've heard. If she had worked on her lines and had more presence in the plot, there would be no problems at all. I do dislike her being displayed as eye candy without proper male presence to balance it off with possibly dull line reading.

Modifié par Russalka, 07 juillet 2012 - 11:08 .

[LanceSolous13]

They never stated they did but considering Emily Wong could fill the exact same purpose as Dianna Allers, the situation certainly looks that way. Heck, I wouldn't have minded Emily being an LI in that instance. She is at least an established character by that point.

[Quething]

Wulfram wrote...

She's OK. The little interviews are kind of worthwhile

They're really not. Go load up your ME1 post-Therum or post-Feros save, or wherever you go first, and head down the elevator to talk to Kalisah. Count how many questions she asks you, and how many different ways you can respond to each one. Look at how much you can learn about the setting, and how much you can do to define who your Shepard is as a person and how she views the world, her new responsibility, and humanity's relationship to the Council and other Council races.

Then load up a post-Tuchanka save in ME3, and let Allers up to ask you about curing the genophage. Notice how she asks you exactly one question, how limited your available responses are, and how it doesn't let you say anything about your Shepard that you didn't already say a dozen times through dialog and action throughout the mission itself. Notice that the first question she asks that could be meaningful, that would let you say something people spent the entire ME2-ME3 hiatus arguing about and begging BioWare for a chance to make some kind of in-game statement on, immediately fades to black without allowing any Shepard response.

No dialog that asks "tell us about that whole 'working for Cerberus' thing" and then doesn't let you answer is worthwhile. <_<

[LanceSolous13]

Then load up Emily Wong's Missions from ME1. Look at how she operates. She may not be doing the exactly legal thing, but she's getting her answers and then laws are being passed to change things after the following up roar (if I remember correctly). She's competely using her position as a journalist to make the Citadel a safer place.

Now, when did Dianna Allers do anything remotely similar or productive during the entire game?

[JeffZero]

She's alright, but she's definitely my pick for the weakest new addition to the Normandy's crew in ME3.

[Fauxnormal]

wright1978 wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Fauxnormal wrote...

No, you're not the only one. The people who complain about her have no logical or sound arguments, and honestly they're ****ing just to ****. It's 'cool' to dislike her or be offended by her or some nonsense BS.

She's a cool gal. I like her.

I think people have less of a problem with her and more one with what she represents, i.e. getting rid of the previous two reporters. She's not a bad person by any means, and I don't dislike her as such, I'd just rather have Emily Wong (including as a romance option... maybe not one I'd take, given Liara, but still).

I have a problem with her because she is such a poorly conceived reporter character , especially when placed in comparison to the 2 well conceived reporters they already had in the series. Then there's the poor voice acting. Then there's the fact that all the time and effort(resources) could have been used on other characters , who suffered from having minimal time and effort put into their roles.

See?

Exactly what I said. and with that, abandon QQ thread. You people are absurd.

[CHALET]

Fauxnormal wrote...

wright1978 wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Fauxnormal wrote...

No, you're not the only one. The people who complain about her have no logical or sound arguments, and honestly they're ****ing just to ****. It's 'cool' to dislike her or be offended by her or some nonsense BS.

She's a cool gal. I like her.

I think people have less of a problem with her and more one with what she represents, i.e. getting rid of the previous two reporters. She's not a bad person by any means, and I don't dislike her as such, I'd just rather have Emily Wong (including as a romance option... maybe not one I'd take, given Liara, but still).

I have a problem with her because she is such a poorly conceived reporter character , especially when placed in comparison to the 2 well conceived reporters they already had in the series. Then there's the poor voice acting. Then there's the fact that all the time and effort(resources) could have been used on other characters , who suffered from having minimal time and effort put into their roles.

See?

Exactly what I said. and with that, abandon QQ thread. You people are absurd.

But it's a valid criticism. Just because you disagree doesn't make it QQ.

[Master Shiori]

CrutchCricket wrote...

Well the biggest problem with Diana is they spent all this time and effort to get her in the game.. and she doesn't really do anything. She's completely inconsequential. I've forgotten nearly all her content.

Pretty much this.

It's not clear what the purpose of Diana Allers was, aside from giving you a few extra war assets. Her "romance" was a complete joke and character developement and story impact were non existent.

I don't hate Jessica Chobot or Allers as a character. I simply feel that there was a lot of wasted potential there.

Modifié par Master Shiori, 08 juillet 2012 - 09:54 .

[Joe1962]

I actually tried to romance her once, but failed. Shep was crestfallen, as he has never been turned down before.

I only play as a male Shep, so she may be for female Sheps only, I don't know.

I've only imported saves where I stayed faithful to Liara and Ashley, so that may have been it as well. I made a save so I could see Aller's romance and then go back, but to no avail.

I finally just watched it on youtube and it showed the female Shep, which is why I thought she might only go one way. I remember she also made a comment about how sexy EDI was once, as well.

If she is only interested in females, my Shep will feel much better, as that would be understandable. 

The male ego is a very fragile thing.

[HopHazzard]

Joe1962 wrote...

I actually tried to romance her once, but failed. Shep was crestfallen, as he has never been turned down before.

I only play as a male Shep, so she may be for female Sheps only, I don't know.

I've only imported saves where I stayed faithful to Liara and Ashley, so that may have been it as well. I made a save so I could see Aller's romance and then go back, but to no avail.

I finally just watched it on youtube and it showed the female Shep, which is why I thought she might only go one way. I remember she also made a comment about how sexy EDI was once, as well.

If she is only interested in females, my Shep will feel much better, as that would be understandable. 

The male ego is a very fragile thing.

Sorry, bro. Don't know what you did wrong, but she's available for male Shep as well.

[Long4gottenSon]

i have nothing against jessica chobot, but the voice acting for diana was horrible, she had the personality of a dial tone....in the end, diana was just another number for my war assets and nothing more than that

[Cyberstrike nTo]

IMHO Allers was an OK character. Not as bad as many made her out to be, but not great either.

[Barquiel]

I had no problem with Diana Allers, but I would have preffered Emily Wong or Kalisah Al-Jilani as well. They wanted to include a reporter on the Normandy...good idea IMO. But why introduce a new character for the job when there's already two well-established characters?

But I don't think it's Jessica Chobot's fault that Diana Allers isn't a great character. I thought her voice acting was OK. Bioware simply didn't give her much to work with. They didn't put much effort into the interviews (some short and generic lines), and her romance arc is really shallow.
Even with Khalisah Al-Jilani, you get a paragon interrupt (if you didn't punch her) and she shows a vulnerable and emotional side. Allers doesn't have a single emotional moment. I think the writers are to blame, not Jessica Chobot.

[Cyberstrike nTo]

Barquiel wrote...

I had no problem with Diana Allers, but I would have preffered Emily Wong or Kalisah Al-Jilani as well. They wanted to include a reporter on the Normandy...good idea IMO. But why introduce a new character for the job when there's already two well-established characters?

But I don't think it's Jessica Chobot's fault that Diana Allers isn't a great character. I thought her voice acting was OK. Bioware simply didn't give her much to work with. They didn't put much effort into the interviews (some short and generic lines), and her romance arc is really shallow.
Even with Khalisah Al-Jilani, you get a paragon interrupt (if you didn't punch her) and she shows a vulnerable and emotional side. Allers doesn't have a single emotional moment. I think the writers are to blame, not Jessica Chobot.

The closest thing she has to an emotional moment is she tells Shepard that the Reapers destroyed her homeworld and while Jessica Chobot tries she IMHO comes up a little short in making an emotional connection.

Maybe Allers is like Jeff Daniels' character on The Newsroom in that she is more comfortable in front of the camera talking to millions of people than she is talking to a person about her problems?

[Ice Cold J]

I don't have a problem with her. I just see her inclusion as little more than trying to appeal to gamer nerds by having Jess Chobot play a character and/or someone at Bioware trying to get laid by including her.

[Lenimph]

I liked Diana's character for what it came off to as me...

A woman who sleeps her way to fame. I just know she films her fling with Shepard and is going to "accidently" leak it out onto the extranet once she's off the Normandy.    

Wong's twitter feed was probably more moving to me then anything they could have done with her in game... 

Modifié par Lenimph, 08 juillet 2012 - 07:48 .

[Zjarcal]

Lenimph wrote...

I liked Diana's character for what it came off to as me...

A woman who sleeps her way to fame. I just know she films her fling with Shepard and is going to "accidently" leak it out onto the extranet once she's off the Normandy.    

"Commander Shepard's Inside Story: A Diana Allers eXXXclusive" 

Also... I liked Diana a bit.

Modifié par Zjarcal, 08 juillet 2012 - 08:14 .

[LanceSolous13]

Cyberstrike nTo wrote...

Barquiel wrote...

I had no problem with Diana Allers, but I would have preffered Emily Wong or Kalisah Al-Jilani as well. They wanted to include a reporter on the Normandy...good idea IMO. But why introduce a new character for the job when there's already two well-established characters?

But I don't think it's Jessica Chobot's fault that Diana Allers isn't a great character. I thought her voice acting was OK. Bioware simply didn't give her much to work with. They didn't put much effort into the interviews (some short and generic lines), and her romance arc is really shallow.
Even with Khalisah Al-Jilani, you get a paragon interrupt (if you didn't punch her) and she shows a vulnerable and emotional side. Allers doesn't have a single emotional moment. I think the writers are to blame, not Jessica Chobot.

The closest thing she has to an emotional moment is she tells Shepard that the Reapers destroyed her homeworld and while Jessica Chobot tries she IMHO comes up a little short in making an emotional connection.

Maybe Allers is like Jeff Daniels' character on The Newsroom in that she is more comfortable in front of the camera talking to millions of people than she is talking to a person about her problems?

That's no excuse. Unless that were to have been outright stated in the game, Its very very poor Voice Acting. And, since that is mentioned nowhere in the game whatso ever, Your theory lacks the evidence to back it up.

[Joe1962]

HopHazzard wrote...

Sorry, bro. Don't know what you did wrong, but she's available for male Shep as well.

Shep will be devastated.

It may be that I kill the option by telling Liara and Ash very early in the game that I want to continue their romance. Even though the romance isn't supposed to be locked in until later in the game. I don't know.

Allers should have been like Kelly. Shep can always get with her down in the docks and still carry out the other romance.

Yep, my Shep is a player...or he used to be. Poor Shep, how the mighty have fallen. Shot down by Allers.