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[Deathshroud09]

Mgamerz wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

The Waffle Cat wrote...

Chaoswind wrote...

The Waffle Cat wrote...

Chaoswind wrote...

The Waffle Cat wrote...

Tinfoil hat topic is wearing a tinfoil hat.

They announce all they do.

like Banshees having wall hack? or Prime Drones giving Geth detection?  N7 matchmaking?

No official post came with those changes  until people started to complain on forum, troll me more.

Banshees always teleported through walls, geth have always shot through cloak and such. N7 matchmaking was announced by Scylla Costa....

wrong Banshees never had ridiculous wall teleports, and I play a ton of glaciar since is my favorite map, and that only started to happen a month or so ago.

Short teleports that ignored corners? yes, wall hacking? nope

Alrigt son, in the SP in the last mission 1 day after the release banshees teleported through the mako's on my insanity playthrough. Now tell me again they never had wall hax as you describe it ( while it is a simple teleport) .

The tinfoil hat syndrom only shows after x event or x enemy or x thing has been put into a spitlight, the banshee event was roughly 1 1-2 month ago so we can.conclude the tinfoil. Hat syndrom is once right

You're wrong about banshees. They were ALWAYS going around some walls. Now they don't, they go trough them. Even trough the thickest ones. They teleport sideways and backwards, never did that before. 

Is that a problem? If you can warp a certain distance, why shouldn't you be able to warp through walls as long as it in the correct distance?
I see no problem with banshee warps.

-vanguards- your argument is invalid.....if i cant biotic charge an enemy through a wall, she shouldnt be able to warp through one.

on a side note, she can warp through cover and magnet-instakill me when i'm still in cover.....my biotic charge cannot do this either take it away from the banshee or give it to my vanguard 

[The Waffle Cat]

WARMACHINE9 wrote...

The Waffle Cat wrote...

WARMACHINE9 wrote...

Waffle cat, grenade spam, no note, actually happened, discuss?

Didnt happen, its the randomness of the ai, I had games where I see nihil grenades and i see games where I see 2 grenades in wave 1. 

Its just rng within the ai 

right and the moon landing didn't happen either, whose wearing the tinfoil hat now?

You, you still confirm it has been changed even though things like that cant be changed through the normal balance changes as it is rng within the ai on when they throw them and when not

Factors that help :

- if you bunker down
- if they are behind cover they will theow it

Etc. Etc.

It is easy to have 1 game with no grenades and another match with a lot of grenades as it RNg

Random that is.

[Zero132132]

The Waffle Cat wrote...

Zero132132 wrote...

The Waffle Cat wrote...

Sine day one they charged through mako's etc. in the SP and likewise in the MP, shownme where the dev posted it.


On the very first day of the mp geth already shot through cloaks etc. and they still do now.

They didn't go THROUGH the mako. Those things aren't very large. They could always teleport around corners, not even just going straight, but teleporting through walls entirely is new. I remember distinctly getting away from Banshees by running behind a wall, and them teleporting towards the entrance before teleporting towards me. It's new.

Seriously, there have been several other examples of devs not announcing things (despite a few senseless claims). You're wrong. Quit pretending that it's as simple as confirmation bias. That may simplify how you see these issues, but it doesn't account for reality.

They did go theough my mako, we all got the same version of the game but in mine they teleported through the mako's even diagonial. Its easy to see this over your head though as when you're in an action pased moment you wont realise it

Others have pointed out that they always warped through cover. That aside, I don't think the teleportation is a straight line, I think it's basically whatever they could walk in a short timeframe, but they couldn't teleport through walls. Do you genuinely not remember that they used to actually teleport towards doors before moving inside?

Why are you bothering to post if all you're going to do is shut your eyes, put your hands over your ears, and yell "LALALA I AM NOT LISTENING!!" over and over?

Modifié par Zero132132, 07 juillet 2012 - 09:47 .

[FelixFelice]

I assume all these changes you guys speak about are due to the high amount of enemies you get on gold now.

Cerberus and Reapers toss a lot of grenades but I attributed that to the amount of Troopers/Cannibals running around. Kill them fast enough and it isn't a problem.

Banshee warp seems to only happen on Jade and Goddess. With three on screen I can see why the game AI would have them warping through walls.

My only problems I have online are 1. Magical Seeking Missiles and 2. Magical Seeking Plasma Cannons

Geth Turrets x2 (Yes this happens if a Prime moves within range of another turret location) is annoying sometimes but I'd rather that then them fix those combat drones so I can have another magical seeking missile hit me for the kill.

Modifié par FelixFelice, 07 juillet 2012 - 09:50 .

[SlimJim0725]

Trolls will be trolls I guess. The Banshee did not clip through walls before. I have played this game a ton and that only started around a month ago. Also, their shields rarely if ever returned to stop biotic explosions, now it takes 3x as long to land one after her barriers drop as she spams that shield. She also has a new jump pattern and will sync grab much quicker with after a jump. I don't care if you worked for Blizzard as a mod on a forum, it doesn't change the fact that you are wrong.

Your horrible and failed logic is also rather annoying, so I won't be responding anymore about it. Anyone that has played frequently has noticed the change, enough said.

[Mozts]

They don't announce everything. Thats a fact.

- M90 Indra.
- Jumbo and Premium packs going permanently in the store.
- Reduced time between wave.
- Banshee biotic shields increase.
- Matchmaking announce after a week.

Now shut it.

[jordie3000]

FelixFelice wrote...

I assume all these changes you guys speak about are due to the high amount of enemies you get on gold now.

Cerberus and Reapers toss a lot of grenades but I attributed that to the amount of Troopers/Cannibals running around. Kill them fast enough and it isn't a problem.

Banshee warp seems to only happen on Jade and Goddess. With three on screen I can see why the game AI would have them warping through walls.

Goddess and Glacier is where I recall it happening most recently. 

[The Waffle Cat]

Zero132132 wrote...

The Waffle Cat wrote...

Zero132132 wrote...

The Waffle Cat wrote...

Sine day one they charged through mako's etc. in the SP and likewise in the MP, shownme where the dev posted it.


On the very first day of the mp geth already shot through cloaks etc. and they still do now.

They didn't go THROUGH the mako. Those things aren't very large. They could always teleport around corners, not even just going straight, but teleporting through walls entirely is new. I remember distinctly getting away from Banshees by running behind a wall, and them teleporting towards the entrance before teleporting towards me. It's new.

Seriously, there have been several other examples of devs not announcing things (despite a few senseless claims). You're wrong. Quit pretending that it's as simple as confirmation bias. That may simplify how you see these issues, but it doesn't account for reality.

They did go theough my mako, we all got the same version of the game but in mine they teleported through the mako's even diagonial. Its easy to see this over your head though as when you're in an action pased moment you wont realise it

Others have pointed out that they always warped through cover. That aside, I don't think the teleportation is a straight line, I think it's basically whatever they could walk in a short timeframe, but they couldn't teleport through walls. Do you genuinely not remember that they used to actually teleport towards doors before moving inside?

Why are you bothering to post if all you're going to do is shut your eyes, put your hands over your ears, and yell "LALALA I AM NOT LISTENING!!" over and over?

So explain how the mako could be teleported theough on day 1 exactly I come with arguements to back up my stuff and go lalalalal like you say, you are wrong here as it is what ive explained a million times in this theead :

X enemy gets put into the spotlight and people see stuff they've never noticed before, so they put their tinfoil hats on and smash the BS all over the place.

[WARMACHINE9]

Actually EVERY cerberus game I play in has an abundance of both smoke and frag grenades. Yes there is some randomness but there is a BIG difference in the amount of grenades being thrown since ME3 first came out and now which cannot be explained away by randomness. if you have gotten games with no thrown grenades you were vey lucky indeed,and I bet there is more than one poster in this thread who has been frustrated more than once by the smoke spam.

I also find it interesting that you are the only person in this thread who is denying it happens. So the entire world is wrong except for you?  just saying.

Modifié par WARMACHINE9, 07 juillet 2012 - 09:55 .

[Chaoswind]

The Waffle Cat wrote...

Zero132132 wrote...

The Waffle Cat wrote...

Zero132132 wrote...

The Waffle Cat wrote...

Sine day one they charged through mako's etc. in the SP and likewise in the MP, shownme where the dev posted it.


On the very first day of the mp geth already shot through cloaks etc. and they still do now.

They didn't go THROUGH the mako. Those things aren't very large. They could always teleport around corners, not even just going straight, but teleporting through walls entirely is new. I remember distinctly getting away from Banshees by running behind a wall, and them teleporting towards the entrance before teleporting towards me. It's new.

Seriously, there have been several other examples of devs not announcing things (despite a few senseless claims). You're wrong. Quit pretending that it's as simple as confirmation bias. That may simplify how you see these issues, but it doesn't account for reality.

They did go theough my mako, we all got the same version of the game but in mine they teleported through the mako's even diagonial. Its easy to see this over your head though as when you're in an action pased moment you wont realise it

Others have pointed out that they always warped through cover. That aside, I don't think the teleportation is a straight line, I think it's basically whatever they could walk in a short timeframe, but they couldn't teleport through walls. Do you genuinely not remember that they used to actually teleport towards doors before moving inside?

Why are you bothering to post if all you're going to do is shut your eyes, put your hands over your ears, and yell "LALALA I AM NOT LISTENING!!" over and over?

So explain how the mako could be teleported theough on day 1 exactly I come with arguements to back up my stuff and go lalalalal like you say, you are wrong here as it is what ive explained a million times in this theead :

X enemy gets put into the spotlight and people see stuff they've never noticed before, so they put their tinfoil hats on and smash the BS all over the place.

because you dare to compare cover to walls, that is why you are a waste of our time.

Everyone should just ignore this guy, I certainly will after this post

NOTE: trying to save people like Zero132132, nothing to do with the waste of human rights with name I already forgot

[The Waffle Cat]

Chaoswind wrote...

The Waffle Cat wrote...

Zero132132 wrote...

The Waffle Cat wrote...

Zero132132 wrote...

The Waffle Cat wrote...

Sine day one they charged through mako's etc. in the SP and likewise in the MP, shownme where the dev posted it.


On the very first day of the mp geth already shot through cloaks etc. and they still do now.

They didn't go THROUGH the mako. Those things aren't very large. They could always teleport around corners, not even just going straight, but teleporting through walls entirely is new. I remember distinctly getting away from Banshees by running behind a wall, and them teleporting towards the entrance before teleporting towards me. It's new.

Seriously, there have been several other examples of devs not announcing things (despite a few senseless claims). You're wrong. Quit pretending that it's as simple as confirmation bias. That may simplify how you see these issues, but it doesn't account for reality.

They did go theough my mako, we all got the same version of the game but in mine they teleported through the mako's even diagonial. Its easy to see this over your head though as when you're in an action pased moment you wont realise it

Others have pointed out that they always warped through cover. That aside, I don't think the teleportation is a straight line, I think it's basically whatever they could walk in a short timeframe, but they couldn't teleport through walls. Do you genuinely not remember that they used to actually teleport towards doors before moving inside?

Why are you bothering to post if all you're going to do is shut your eyes, put your hands over your ears, and yell "LALALA I AM NOT LISTENING!!" over and over?

So explain how the mako could be teleported theough on day 1 exactly I come with arguements to back up my stuff and go lalalalal like you say, you are wrong here as it is what ive explained a million times in this theead :

X enemy gets put into the spotlight and people see stuff they've never noticed before, so they put their tinfoil hats on and smash the BS all over the place.

because you dare to compare cover to walls, that is why you are a waste of our time.

Everyone should just ignore this guy, I certainly will after this post 

NOTE: trying to save people like Zero132132, nothing to do with the waste of human rights with name I already forgot

You're such a big nitwit, a mako is not a cover, its an object with the same height as a wall and thicker than any wall so that basically makes you look like an idiot.

[The Waffle Cat]

WARMACHINE9 wrote...

Actually EVERY cerberus game I play in has an abundance of both smoke and frag grenades. Yes there is some randomness but there is a BIG difference in the amount of grenades being thrown since ME3 first came out and now which cannot be explained away by randomness. if you have gotten games with no thrown grenades you were vey lucky indeed,and I bet there is more than one poster in this thread who has been frustrated more than once by the smoke spam.

I also find it interesting that you are the only person in this thread who is denying it happens. So the entire world is wrong except for you?  just saying.

Mgamerz is as well and there are probably others who havent noticed anything but I just say it to you guys.

There is no "ninja" change in balance and such especially not due to the balance system of BW and the change once a week.

A ninja change is a tinfoil hat theory made up by people like you, thats just how it is on any forum. On halo it is like that on blizzards forum it is like that on the cod forums it even is like that.


As well rng is rng it doesnt matter to the ai if they theow a million smokes or just 1 it is done randomly as thats how the ai is programmed.

[oMikki13]

I thought more turrets have been going up lately, but maybe that's just me noticing them more? I dunno, but I don't think they share everything, just some.

Edit: That said, I think they share the major changes. Just my opinion. My friends have also noticed a couple tweaks, but again, it could just be that we're looking for changes and finding them when they aren't really there.

Modifié par oMikki13, 07 juillet 2012 - 10:14 .

[eltdown]

The Waffle Cat wrote...
So explain how the mako could be teleported theough on day 1 exactly I come with arguements to back up my stuff and go lalalalal like you say, you are wrong here as it is what ive explained a million times in this theead :

X enemy gets put into the spotlight and people see stuff they've never noticed before, so they put their tinfoil hats on and smash the BS all over the place.

To summarise what people have already explained to you: cover and walls were classed differently for pathfinding purposes in the internal game mechanics. The mako was classed as cover - banshees could always teleport through cover. Walls were classed differently - banshees, until recently, could not teleport through walls.

You have already had someone tell you that they repeatedly and specifically exploited the no teleporting through walls mechanic in Glacier. Not something they weren't paying attention to, something they specifically used. Now they can no longer exploit it as the banshees pathing behaviour has changed.

No-one's saying the banshee changes occurred yesterday, they've been around for some weeks so could easily have been in one of the patches and just taken time to notice.

Whilst confirmation bias does exist, suggesting everyone else has collective amnesia is disingenuous. What if you're the one who's wrong but doesn't realise it?

[Zero132132]

I can't tell if Waffle's an idiot or a troll. Either way, gotta agree, absolutely no point in arguing with him.

[Kirrahe Airlines CEO]

Paeyvn wrote...

I swear I saw phantoms blocking my overloads all last night.

If I remember correctly, Phantoms can block overload with their palm shields. The only powers they can't block are reave and stasis.

[Urdnot_SahVaj]

Mozts wrote...

They don't announce everything. Thats a fact.

- M90 Indra.
- Jumbo and Premium packs going permanently in the store.
- Reduced time between wave.
- Banshee biotic shields increase.
- Matchmaking announce after a week.

Now shut it.

this. also you forgot the Banshee teleport. Sorry but I've only recently joined the forums out of interest to connect with the community and view all updates. Having within this week only been on this forum i have no "tinfoil hat" influence or w/e the hell you wish to call it. Do explain to me how there are no ninja updates when for the first few months, can't recall how exactly long, my lovely friend ms. Banshee needed to go all the way around walls and whatnot before being able to warp past cover and make love to my tummy? Now its like a horror movie...exciting and thrilling because she can teleport from outside to inside or from room and floor A to room/floor B like nothing?

[The Waffle Cat]

Zero132132 wrote...

I can't tell if Waffle's an idiot or a troll. Either way, gotta agree, absolutely no point in arguing with him.

You're the idiot here, your statements have gr no proof whatsoever, the mako isnt classified as a cover, it is considered as an object with the size etc of a thicker wall, as well since day one I have been playing silver and gold and the banshees have always teleported thriugh walls as me and my friends have done speedruns nearly since the time of the release.

All your proof is : hurrdurr tinfoil hat last month bs due to banshee event spotlight.

Call me a trill if you cant handle it all you want but atm you just got your tibfoil hat and man,

A Tinfoil hat makes you believe crap there has never been.

[WARMACHINE9]

The Waffle Cat wrote...

Zero132132 wrote...

I can't tell if Waffle's an idiot or a troll. Either way, gotta agree, absolutely no point in arguing with him.

You're the idiot here, your statements have gr no proof whatsoever, the mako isnt classified as a cover, it is considered as an object with the size etc of a thicker wall, as well since day one I have been playing silver and gold and the banshees have always teleported thriugh walls as me and my friends have done speedruns nearly since the time of the release.

All your proof is : hurrdurr tinfoil hat last month bs due to banshee event spotlight.

Call me a trill if you cant handle it all you want but atm you just got your tibfoil hat and man,

A Tinfoil hat makes you believe crap there has never been.

And your proof is ......where exactly?

[The Waffle Cat]

WARMACHINE9 wrote...

The Waffle Cat wrote...

Zero132132 wrote...

I can't tell if Waffle's an idiot or a troll. Either way, gotta agree, absolutely no point in arguing with him.

You're the idiot here, your statements have gr no proof whatsoever, the mako isnt classified as a cover, it is considered as an object with the size etc of a thicker wall, as well since day one I have been playing silver and gold and the banshees have always teleported thriugh walls as me and my friends have done speedruns nearly since the time of the release.

All your proof is : hurrdurr tinfoil hat last month bs due to banshee event spotlight.

Call me a trill if you cant handle it all you want but atm you just got your tibfoil hat and man,

A Tinfoil hat makes you believe crap there has never been.

And your proof is ......where exactly?

Both in the balance changes and my personal experiences.

1st proof is even from bioware

2bd proof is out of my own experience and just seeing that banshees could telepoet thriugh every wall since releas
1st proof : undenieable
2nd proof : personal experiences can be denied even though one might have noticed things bfore tinfoil hat storm.

[reioni]

Uchimura wrote...

Maybe it's the recent server-turding?

Server-Turding i think is to blame for a lot of the recent issues.

[Chaoswind]

Zero132132 wrote...

I can't tell if Waffle's an idiot or a troll. Either way, gotta agree, absolutely no point in arguing with him.

Actually I think I found his problem, he thinks games are real and use real life mechanics instead of lines of code, what a sad thing indeed.

going back to the OP.

sorry OP, but that change isn't recent, has been going for about 3 weeks or more

Also the phantom shield works like this:

She will use her shield when a power with travel time (CS, Warp, Nades, etc) is used on her and thus she will block it to avoid 100% of the damage/effect, while her shield is up no powers (besides a few that I have not tested yet) will do anything to her, that includes several ones that DON'T have travel time, including Overload.


So yes Overload will work on her all the time UNTIL she raises her shield in defense of something else (a nade or warp)

[mrwizeguy]

Zero132132 wrote...

I can't tell if Waffle's an idiot or a troll. Either way, gotta agree, absolutely no point in arguing with him.

+1

[The Waffle Cat]

Chaoswind wrote...

Zero132132 wrote...

I can't tell if Waffle's an idiot or a troll. Either way, gotta agree, absolutely no point in arguing with him.

Actually I think I found his problem, he thinks games are real and use real life mechanics instead of lines of code, what a sad thing indeed.

going back to the OP.

sorry OP, but that change isn't recent, has been going for about 3 weeks or more

Also the phantom shield works like this:

She will use her shield when a power with travel time (CS, Warp, Nades, etc) is used on her and thus she will block it to avoid 100% of the damage/effect, while her shield is up no powers (besides a few that I have not tested yet) will do anything to her, that includes several ones that DON'T have travel time, including Overload.


So yes Overload will work on her all the time UNTIL she raises her shield in defense of something else (a nade or warp)

Ow look a teenage hero is gonna insult me for stating facts instead of clueless assumption, how sweet<3

[The Waffle Cat]

mrwizeguy wrote...

Zero132132 wrote...

I can't tell if Waffle's an idiot or a troll. Either way, gotta agree, absolutely no point in arguing with him.

+1

You got no rights to talk as you cant even come up with something without showing your 3rd world country grammar and your insults.

As well change your name, you're all but wize.