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[Leman Russ 2288]

Is there?
On my 2nd playthrough and not even come close to completing the game or playing though any of the DLC, but I have already hit the max level (and no, I didn't cheat) and I don't want all that jucy EXP to go to waste

Modifié par Leman Russ 2288, 16 décembre 2009 - 08:41 .

[Rainen89]

No but it's impossible to hit the level cap anyway unless you cheat.

[Leman Russ 2288]

Rainen89 wrote...

No but it's impossible to hit the level cap anyway unless you cheat.

Actually, thats a lie. You can hand in stuff to your followers in camp. (See my edited post).

[Rainen89]

Right but considering the fact that you will never have the money/ingredients/runes/jewels unless you cheat. (They give a very, very small amount.) You cannot hit 25.

I'd be very interested into how you did this considering at most people have gotten 22, and you need to do a LOT of turn ins just to hit one level. Either way, no there is no known way to increase the level cap.

Modifié par Rainen89, 16 décembre 2009 - 08:45 .

[Leman Russ 2288]

Rainen89 wrote...

Right but considering the fact that you will never have the money/ingredients/runes/jewels unless you cheat. (They give a very, very small amount.) You cannot hit 25.

I'd be very interested into how you did this considering at most people have gotten 22, and you need to do a LOT of turn ins just to hit one level. Either way, no there is no known way to increase the level cap.

You can make money crafting.

[Rainen89]

The amount of gold it takes to get one level from turning in gold to Eamons forces is quite a bit above one thousand gold, at least on console version, so again. Very curious.

[Torias]

Giving in the same resources repeatedly at camp to gain infinite xp is exploiting a game design oversight and breaking the game progression.

It's your choice to use the infinite xp exploit, but that is not the same as "hitting the level cap".

It is impossible to hit the level cap without cheating / deliberately exploiting design oversights.

Modifié par Torias, 16 décembre 2009 - 08:52 .

[Naxarrath]

Rainen89 wrote...

Right but considering the fact that you will never have the money/ingredients/runes/jewels unless you cheat. (They give a very, very small amount.) You cannot hit 25.

Not true, 99 elfroot cost you about 50 silver and is endless supply if you keep elves as your allys, and since there is also endless supply of gold making and selling potent lyrium potion only thing you need is time.

[Rainen89]

Ah, I haven't tried using roots, all I know is that when I turned in 30 gold it hardly moved at all. The amount required is a bit high is all I know.

[Seifz]

As far as I know, nobody's managed to increase the level cap yet. There were a few false starts when some users discovered that the XP table is just stored in 2DA format, but apparently there's more to it than that.

[Bekter]

I didn't even know that handing in materials to allies gave you XP. I thought it just makes them stronger for the final battle. Good to know. Anyway without cheats but with DLC I was able to get a little bit past level 24 so I don't think it would be impossible to get to 25 (is that the level cap? that's what I've been hearing) even without intentionally going for ally materials XP. I mean before the final battle I had like 800 gold saved up and spent a pittance on my allies, using the rest to buy the best items in the game but if I hadn't done that I would have spent it all on my allies (no point keeping since its the finale). That's not really breaking game progression (giving everything you own to defeat the blight) or even an exploit, especially if you didn't know it gave you XP.

So Torias I think you are wrong, it is possible to hit the level cap without cheating / deliberately exploiting design oversights.

[Torias]

Bekter wrote...
So Torias I think you are wrong, it is possible to hit the level cap without cheating / deliberately exploiting design oversights.

No, you didn't hit level 25, and even if you gave them all your crafting and gold, you wouldn't have hit level 25.

You only hit level 25 if you spent your gold on crafting components and then give them those crafting components. That requires extra steps (transferring all your gold into stacks of elf root to fill your inventory, travelling to camp, handing that in, going back and buying more elf root, repeat for a long time).

So for the moment, leaving aside user made mods and only looking at the official content provided by bioware, it's impossible to hit the level cap without cheating / deliberately exploiting design oversights

[mmmbeerz]

The questions is always: who cares? My analogy is that upping the level cap is like adding an 11 to volume nob. The number is arbitrary. It's not like an MMORPG since there's no one to compete with but yourself. You don't need a level 26+ to beat the game. There is no "grinding" necessary.

[Elizire]

After reading through this string, I can't help but feel as if the OP would complain about the combat being too easy once he (she) turned on GOD mode.



Sorry, no offense intended, but just how I feel.



I didn't cheat/use xp exploits, did go and do everything I could and still finished at Lvl 21. Might have been higher if I'd opened more chests, but I've always favored heavy-hitting melee parties so it was always 3 tanks and Morrigan.

[Skellimancer]

Torias wrote...

Giving in the same resources repeatedly at camp to gain infinite xp is exploiting a game design oversight and breaking the game progression.

It's your choice to use the infinite xp exploit, but that is not the same as "hitting the level cap".

It is impossible to hit the level cap without cheating / deliberately exploiting design oversights.

Design oversight? They added a way to get experience by handing in items, sounds like it is working as intended, it is hardly an exploit. That said why bother? unless you are a mage who wants every spell.

[KentGoldings]

In the XBOX version, there's an exploit to get free experience. I guess you could use it to level up to the cap... if you wanted to.

[Bullets McDeath]

Nevertheless, I don't think Bioware intended you to get level 25 right after Lothering, which is totally possible by exploiting the elfroot trick. The real oversight is not putting some kind of cap on how much XP you can gain.

[Creature 1]

Torias wrote...
You only hit level 25 if you spent your gold on crafting components and then give them those crafting components. That requires extra steps (transferring all your gold into stacks of elf root to fill your inventory, travelling to camp, handing that in, going back and buying more elf root, repeat for a long time).

This sounds way too much like work.  So we add progression tables for 5 more levels and the OP continues racking up experience to hit level 30 and complains again?  Is there any point to this? 

[Dynamomark]

How high can you get anyway? At the end of my first playthrough, I was around level 23(.5). I neither used cheats nor exploits. I still had at least 2 quests unfinished and I never turned anything in to allies for xp. In fact, I didn't even know I could. So, that makes me think that it is probably possible to get to level 24 without any exploits. Maybe Return to Ostagar will make it possible to get to level 25, who knows.

[izzy32676]

i beat the game on hard with characters at level 20. you don't need to max out your characters to win.

[Bullets McDeath]

Creature 1 wrote...

Torias wrote...
You only hit level 25 if you spent your gold on crafting components and then give them those crafting components. That requires extra steps (transferring all your gold into stacks of elf root to fill your inventory, travelling to camp, handing that in, going back and buying more elf root, repeat for a long time).

This sounds way too much like work.  So we add progression tables for 5 more levels and the OP continues racking up experience to hit level 30 and complains again?  Is there any point to this? 

This! As well as the post about turning the volume to 11... max level is max level, whatever abitrary number it is set at. People that whine about not getting Level 26 will just **** when they can't get to level 31. It's so pointless.

[Welnic]

Seems like if you are going to turn a fantasy RPG game into a 9-5 crafting job, you should be thankful that there is a level cap. You must live an exciting life if you escape to a computer game to work.

[StephenPaulQueen]

I can think of ONE reason to:



a mod, that gives mages as shapeshifters many more abilities (dragonkin tree, wolf tree, hurlock/gemlock tree thing, shade tree etc), the final tier of talents require level 30.



Myself, I kind of want to use morrigan and turn her into her final tier shapeshifting abilities, cos it'd be cool.



First time I started the game, i cheated, cos i wanted to see all the abilities. Atm though, I have no cheats on my current game (except a healthy dosage of looking at the wiki to help with my morrigan/leliana polygamy

[Bryy_Miller]

But then the question becomes: WHY does it require level 30? It sounds like people want more levels for the sake of more levels. It would completely break the game.

Modifié par Bryy_Miller, 13 novembre 2010 - 07:14 .

[Sadorath]

I noticed so far that lvl 10-20 really doesnt change your character much.. into some kind of one hitting machine.. This game doesn't ask for much time in leveling..which is good.. sure mage with every spell oooww.. all I wish is that I didnt have to get some lame spells to get the good ones D: I hate 18+ spells .. I only want to use 8 .. D:

Modifié par Sadorath, 17 janvier 2011 - 10:06 .