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[WhiteKnyght]

We all know they closed the book on Dragon Age II when they cancelled the planned expansion pack and they said they would wrap up Hawkes stuff and give closure another way.

Well, rather than make an enormous 4th Act, why not do something along the lines of what Mass Effect 3's extended cut was? After all, it worked out pretty well for that.

Add a few extra cutscenes and an epilogue for the story with slides. Detail what happened to Hawke and friends after the Gallows.

And like its ME3 counterpart, make it a free download.

[Reznore57]

I don't think DA2 need an extended cut , maybe a full enhanced edition.
I would like that , but i doubt it 's gonna happen.

Beside the ME3 case is not an example to follow , they pretty much messed up their ending .People noticed and because of the pressure they sugar coated it a bit ...

I think we should all turn the page and see what the future of bioware has in store.

[Fauxnormal]

WAH WAH WAH GIVE ME MAOR STUFF FOR NOTHING WAH WAH WAH.

[I Like Cats And]

The best thing to do with Dragon Age II is either to make it completely non-cannon or just move on to Dragon Age III.

[Face of Evil]

YMMV, but Dragon Age 2's ending wasn't broken like ME3. The latter's ending introduced a plot device that had little forewarning, failed to provide any closure to Shepard's story and inferred that massive devastation followed the destruction of the relays. Dragon Age 2's ending isn't sunshine and butterflies and there were some plot elements that weren't received well, but it does resolve all of the hanging plot threads.

We should have gotten an expansion.

Modifié par Face of Evil, 07 juillet 2012 - 11:25 .

[AcidRelic]

I don't think the ending was bad or that they need a extended cut BUT they should have worked less on Weapon and Armor packs and had an expansion.

[Kaiser Shepard]

I Like Cats And wrote...

The best thing to do with Dragon Age II is either to make it completely non-cannon or just move on to Dragon Age III.

Pretty much this; retcon DAII as we have it (perhaps the Asunder novel as well), and just have the sequel to DAO be a "Dragon Age: Uprising" which starts a certain amount of time into the Mage-Templar conflict.

A retcon of those two would free the likes of Anders and Wynne from their previous railroading and make them available for a proper cameo/returning role as well, as well a chance to keep (dev pet?) Leliana dead for those who killed her in Origins. Aside from all those things, a retcon of DAII would also allow for certain things (such as Flemeth) to be kept more mysterious.

Modifié par Kaiser Shepard, 08 juillet 2012 - 01:25 .

[Face of Evil]

So those of us who liked DA2 can just go to hell, then?

[EricHVela]

I liked Dragon Age: Kirkwall for what it was: another episode in the Dragon Age saga and not a direct sequel to Dragon Age: Origins. (It is also why I refuse to call it DA2.)

That said, I think it ended the only way it could end. There are some speculations left behind, but I would say that most of the speculations are regarding what will come next and not "wth just happened?!" like ME3's original ending. There are two wth moments, one for each final choice with the either the first boss fight for choosing the mages or the second boss fight for choosing the Templars. Yet, those are not nearly as insurmountable as ME3's original endings being complete unable to show the result of the player's choice without the players head-canonizing everything that the game didn't explain, which was a lot. Speculations were abound in ME3's endings but that's rather unrewarding after playing 3 games. I would say that most readers hate it when an interesting story series that ends like that just as much as gamers hate it when an interesting game series that ends like that.

Dragon Age: Kirkwall is not the end. The "extended cut" is incorporated into the next game of the series.

[Everwarden]

Fauxnormal wrote...

WAH WAH WAH GIVE ME MAOR STUFF FOR NOTHING WAH WAH WAH.

You know you don't do your side any favors when you behave like a barely-literate baboon.

The OP was very civil in his request. You were not civil in your reply. 

[Everwarden]

Face of Evil wrote...

We should have gotten an expansion.

Dragon Age 2 didn't sell nearly as well as Origins, and a lot of people who bought it weren't happy. It didn't make much business sense for Bioware to make an expansion for a largely unpopular game. 

[Fauxnormal]

Everwarden wrote...

Fauxnormal wrote...

WAH WAH WAH GIVE ME MAOR STUFF FOR NOTHING WAH WAH WAH.

You know you don't do your side any favors when you behave like a barely-literate baboon.

The OP was very civil in his request. You were not civil in your reply. 

You know-

I don't actually care. I have no desire or inclination to do anything more then mock a bunch of QQing crybabies who frankly, act way more entitled then they ever have been.

[Fauxnormal]

Face of Evil wrote...

So those of us who liked DA2 can just go to hell, then?

This is pretty much their stance. Of course, these types of people are never satisfied; they'll whine about eyecolor just to have something to whine about. So frankly, not taking them even remotly seriously is best.

[Zanallen]

Everwarden wrote...

Face of Evil wrote...

We should have gotten an expansion.

Dragon Age 2 didn't sell nearly as well as Origins, and a lot of people who bought it weren't happy. It didn't make much business sense for Bioware to make an expansion for a largely unpopular game. 

And how much business sense would it make to spend time and money creating a free extended cut for a game that is over a year old? Time and money that would be taken away from another project, most likely the next DA game.

[Everwarden]

Zanallen wrote...


And how much business sense would it make to spend time and money creating a free extended cut for a game that is over a year old? 

None at all. 

[Sisterofshane]

"Free" maybe asking for a little bit too much in this case, but I certainly wouldn't turn down the option to pay for a little extra bit of information to give Hawke and companions more closure.

It should be clear that they intended to do this with Hawke's story anyway, otherwise why would they even bother considering an expansion? I think an "extended cut" (similar to ME3, but with a Dragon Age Flair!!!) would be a good compromise from leaving us with nothing, to working on something as big as an expansion.

[LobselVith8]

I think the problems with Dragon Age II extend beyond the ending and the enigma of what happened to Hawke and the moiety crew that joined him: the depiction of templars and mages as one-dimensional, Hawke being passive, the "legend" of Hawke depicting a white protagonist even if we want our protagonist to be non-white, the recycled areas and enemies, and the "waves" of enemies that parachute from the sky - even indoors.

Changing the ending so Meredith and Orsino aren't caricatures or monsters would be nice, but there's so much else wrong that it wouldn't be enough.

[dragonflight288]

How about since they're currently working on DA3, we let them focus on it and make it as high-quality as possible?

[ladyshamen]

dragonflight288 wrote...

How about since they're currently working on DA3, we let them focus on it and make it as high-quality as possible?

This - all the way!

[TEWR]

If they were to make an extended cut, they'd need to redo the whole entire game's story IMO to be better implemented. Conceptually, I loved the premise. In practice, I think it fell flat on its face.

But I don't see them doing it, so I'd rather just have them focus on "The Next Thing". And add gorilla companions and griffons.

[Fast Jimmy]

If they had included a toolkit with DA2, fans could have already created an Act 4 that wrapped up the story nicely... just saying.

[LolaLei]

It's not gonna happen, especially now they've started working on DA3. I don't think it needs expanding upon, they've already said we'll find out where Hawke and the Warden have disappeared to anyway.

However, I agree that it's a shame that we won't be getting any more DLC for DA2. Hopefully the DA team will give us a little more info on DA3 whilst we're waiting for it, to keep our interest up.

[wsandista]

How about a game that isn't horribly rushed where I can actually see where they cut corners?

[aldien]

Filament wrote...

The tenor of the ME3 forums was more facilitative of actual action being taken than the pure venom directed toward DA2 in all respects.

You will never see that here. It is always all or nothing and for some reason people actually believe complaining is going to effect the direction of a game that I am certain was already plotted out long before they began to ask for feedback. Many of the devs no longer come here or at least not regularly. I can't say I blame them.

There is even a rumor that it has been finished, but delyayed. I'm skeptical on that front, but do believe it has been in production, since, perhaps the end of DA2. All speculation of course.

If anything is going to effect the quality of the next DA3 it will be people being pulled off of the team to go work on little fires that crop up in BW's other games.

It would have been nice to have had an expansion, if nothing else, to fill in time until the next game. It's unfortunately not going to happen.

I also suspect that what is given to DA2 fans will be highly disappointing. I highly suspect the DAO characters will come back, at least the most popular, and we will be left with cameos. That's fine and I understand why, but I do not have to be happy about it. :/

You guys have way more faith in BW delivering what you want than I do. Not because I think they are incapable, but because of the circumstances under which they must work.

Modifié par aldien, 08 juillet 2012 - 05:29 .