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[MTX99]

This is how people generally feel on Earth in the 22nd century toward other aliens in terms of sexual exploration. Just take out animal and replace it with any alien you want.

Modifié par MTX99, 09 juillet 2012 - 02:32 .

[Binary_Helix 1]

FoggyFishburne wrote...

Binary_Helix 1 wrote...

No more romances. This isn't Jersey Shore in space. Making Garrus bi would kill his character as it pretty much ruined Kaidan for me. Cortez, Traynor, and Liara, fill that niche well enough already.

The only one that I'm on the fence about is Chakwas since she's in all three games.

All I just read was: "I'm not a homophobe but..." Garrus being bi wouldn't kill his character. In fact, it wouldn't do anything at all. Sexual preferences is not a core part of our personality. I'm a heterosexual male and I have no probz with my man G-Man being gay, bi or hetero. It doesn't destroy his personality, it doesn't change his arc, it does nothing. Stop being a ****ing homophobe, you disgusting ******.

Uh oh we got ourselves a leftist who flaunts his "tolerance" except when it comes to anyone who disagrees with him.

Save your PC drivel for the cocktail parties where it scores you points for being "enlightened".

Modifié par Binary_Helix 1, 09 juillet 2012 - 03:21 .

[DriftingMustang]

FoggyFishburne wrote...

Binary_Helix 1 wrote...

No more romances. This isn't Jersey Shore in space. Making Garrus bi would kill his character as it pretty much ruined Kaidan for me. Cortez, Traynor, and Liara, fill that niche well enough already.

The only one that I'm on the fence about is Chakwas since she's in all three games.

All I just read was: "I'm not a homophobe but..." Garrus being bi wouldn't kill his character. In fact, it wouldn't do anything at all. Sexual preferences is not a core part of our personality. I'm a heterosexual male and I have no probz with my man G-Man being gay, bi or hetero. It doesn't destroy his personality, it doesn't change his arc, it does nothing. Stop being a ****ing homophobe, you disgusting ******.

your sexuality is a pretty big integral part of who you are as a person just like the background you grew up in. for my broshep, if garrus commented on "damn look at cortez's ass" he just went from bro/best friend to best friend. nope,in the case of garrus I imagine broshep (my male shepard character be a in game representation of actualy me of course) and Garrus sitting at the bar when tali walks by and they both stare for a second when garrus says, "I wouldnt mind seeing her without the suit" and then smiles, laughs and high fives commence.

[DriftingMustang]

being that kaiden didnt make it past ME1 for me.....wait, Kaiden is bi? that would make showers on the original Normandy awkward haha.

[Hvlukas]

Modifié par Hvlukas, 09 juillet 2012 - 06:20 .

[Han Shot First]

Only Shiala and Gianna Parasini would make sense.

The others would either be out of character or would ruin the character. (see Samara)

[Binary_Helix 1]

Hvlukas wrote...

So homophobia is a legitimate argument now?

Mkay.

"Homophobia" is something you imagined. What people are opposed to is destroying an established character in service of appeasing a few fans. Cortez and Traynor are gay and nobody minds because that's who they are. Some players want them made bi too and it's equally ridiculous.

Modifié par Binary_Helix 1, 09 juillet 2012 - 07:59 .

[Hvlukas]

Modifié par Hvlukas, 09 juillet 2012 - 06:20 .

[Izhalezan]

Hvlukas wrote...

If you think it destroys a character to be ****** or bi, it's homophobia. 
When a guy says Garrus isn't his "bro" any longer, because he turned out to be gay, it's homophobia.
If addressing homophobic statements is the same as "lefties tolerance" and "political correctnes", it's a statement of homophobia.

Anyway you slice it. It's homophobia and no amount of semantics can change that.

Disliking characters suddenly turning gay after no signs of it after 2 games isn't homophobia per se..... many people just take it as coming out of nowhere and changing what they are used to.

carine wrote...

James Vega, if only because FemShep has only Kaidan to romance in ME3 if she didn't romance Garrus beforehand.

Also this, how'd they throw that steak on the barby for the ladies and then just throw it out when cooked.

Modifié par Izhalezan, 09 juillet 2012 - 08:22 .

[Hvlukas]

Izhalezan wrote...

Disliking characters suddenly turning gay after no signs of it after 2 games isn't homophobia per se..... many people just take it as coming out of nowhere and changing what they are used to.

Having a character "destroyed" like "Kaidan was ruined" .. that is homophobia, simple as that. When a guy can't be bro-friends with a character because he's non-straight, it's not really about "change", it's just homophobia again.
Not being able to cope with a change in a character that doesn't affect you in any way is plainly irrational. Phobia is irrational by nature.

Heck, had the critique just been that it was  "inconsistant", then we could discuss why or why not (as it really isn´t), but nope, not this round it's just plain old homophobia. And though, I'm not interested in Garrus as a S/S character option, I'll think the irrational objection toward such a move in itself merits that he becomes one.

Anyway, getting out of thread. 

Modifié par Hvlukas, 09 juillet 2012 - 08:34 .

[MTX99]

I think it's pathetic. It's nothing more than a double standard in the western world. No one was up in arms when femshep could be a gay character. It should be the same for maleshep. I don't eve know why we are talking about this on a thread about a video game.

Modifié par MTX99, 09 juillet 2012 - 08:59 .

[Binary_Helix 1]

Hvlukas wrote...

Binary_Helix 1 wrote...

Hvlukas wrote...

So homophobia is a legitimate argument now?

Mkay.

"Homophobia" is something you imagined. What people are opposed to is destroying an established character in service of appeasing a few fans. Cortez and Traynor are gay and nobody minds because that's who they are. Some players want them made bi too and it's equally ridiculous.

If you think it destroys a character to be ****** or bi, it's homophobia. 
When a guy says Garrus isn't his "bro" any longer, because he turned out to be gay, it's homophobia.
If addressing homophobic statements is the same as "lefties tolerance" and "political correctnes", it's a statement of homophobia.

Anyway you slice it. It's homophobia and no amount of semantics can change that.

LOL

I'm sorry you're oversensitive but that's not our problem.

[Binary_Helix 1]

Hvlukas wrote...

Izhalezan wrote...

Disliking characters suddenly turning gay after no signs of it after 2 games isn't homophobia per se..... many people just take it as coming out of nowhere and changing what they are used to.

Having a character "destroyed" like "Kaidan was ruined" .. that is homophobia, simple as that. When a guy can't be bro-friends with a character because he's non-straight, it's not really about "change", it's just homophobia again.
Not being able to cope with a change in a character that doesn't affect you in any way is plainly irrational. Phobia is irrational by nature.

Heck, had the critique just been that it was  "inconsistant", then we could discuss why or why not (as it really isn´t), but nope, not this round it's just plain old homophobia. And though, I'm not interested in Garrus as a S/S character option, I'll think the irrational objection toward such a move in itself merits that he becomes one.

Anyway, getting out of thread. 

Oh gawd please stop using video games to push your social and political agenda.

It's perfectly normal to want a character to remain guess what? In character.

[Hvlukas]

Modifié par Hvlukas, 09 juillet 2012 - 06:21 .

[Sugarjaye]

Izhalezan wrote...

Hvlukas wrote...

If you think it destroys a character to be ****** or bi, it's homophobia. 
When a guy says Garrus isn't his "bro" any longer, because he turned out to be gay, it's homophobia.
If addressing homophobic statements is the same as "lefties tolerance" and "political correctnes", it's a statement of homophobia.

Anyway you slice it. It's homophobia and no amount of semantics can change that.

Disliking characters suddenly turning gay after no signs of it after 2 games isn't homophobia per se..... many people just take it as coming out of nowhere and changing what they are used to.

carine wrote...

James Vega, if only because FemShep has only Kaidan to romance in ME3 if she didn't romance Garrus beforehand.

Also this, how'd they throw that steak on the barby for the ladies and then just throw it out when cooked.

This, 1000x this. Why oh why tease us with the possibility of Vega then deny us.......Sigh..... My poor, poor Femshep is eternally alone, she killed Kaiden on Virmire, Garrus is her Bestie , and although they keep throwing themselves at her she just doesn't like women what way, then along comes Vega with his hunky body, flirting away and making her kness go weak with his 'lola', and just when it seems like it's getting interesting, it's like she hits a brick wall....    

[metalfenix]

I don't think that the fact of suddenly turning gay destroys a character (like kaidan, for example), to me, is like suddenly getting out of the closet, I buy the excuse of focusing only in his career without caring to be with someone else.

It was a major surprise to see that he was a LI for my male shep too (I thought that cortez was the only male romance),When I found about that, I turned back 5 hours of play just to buy that peruvian whisky, kaidan was the platonic love of my bro shep since ME 1. Cortez is alright too, this time they designed very well the romantic scenes for male/male (unlike the horrible romances on Dragon age II), kudos to bioware on that.

Now, straight  fem sheps got out of the loop terribly, with jacob and thane gone,  the only option they have is kaidan or garrus if you romanced him on ME 2. They need vega too (I wouldn't mind him for bro shep either XD)

[bFootball]

Aria. Just so she can utter the line "There's only one rule in this bedroom".
Kasumi and a straight Traynor would have been good too.

[ozthegweat]

Hvlukas wrote...

Heck, had the critique just been that it was  "inconsistant", then we could discuss why or why not (as it really isn´t)

I don't think it's inconsistent, they made the reasons for Kaidan being a romance option in ME3 quite clear, and I think it's really nicely done, as his reasoning is not "I want to be with that woman or man", but "I want to be with that person".

[riesenwiesel]

Aria should grab Grunt.

[yesikareyes]

I want to romance Samara's son with male shep

[LiarasShield]

Grunt or wrex as love interest ^^

[nevets187]

Wouldve liked the option of a Tali LI in ME1
Goto definitly..but i have thing for Japanese girls with a penchant for kleptomania.

[Baronesa]

F/F Tali, Jack and Miranda

[Applepie_Svk]

I always wish Shiala... but my prayers stay left behind !

[ebreder]

Vega. Got two-thirds of the way in and found out I was denied, was SO pissed, after I'd dropped Garrus, too...