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[Mazebook]

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Modifié par Selene Moonsong, 08 juillet 2012 - 09:10 .

[julio77777]

I personally don't see what EC "fixed", and I have trouble understanding how someone who was disatisfied with the original endings can be all happy after the EC really. However it's a good thing that some people were satisfied, let's hope for Bioware they satisfied the majority.

As for me I never expected EC to fix the problems I had with the endings (namely the Catalyst) in the first place, so I'm not really disappointed. Plus at the end of the day it's just a game with a bad ending (personal opinion), not the first not the last and I've seen much much worse.

Moreover I remember having a lot of fun while playing it, so not a total loss

[Father_Jerusalem]

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...
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Don't even engage with them anymore. If they continue doing this crap, just PM a mod with a link to their post and move on.

Modifié par Selene Moonsong, 08 juillet 2012 - 09:11 .

[Fauxnormal]

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Modifié par Selene Moonsong, 08 juillet 2012 - 09:11 .

[Mcfly616]

Someone above questions "why leave Commander Shepards fate on a cliffhanger?"

They don't....its not a cliffhanger in any way, shape or form.....he either Lives or he Dies....

The only thing left up for interpretation is "how Shepard spends the rest of his days, if he survives".....

[detbasketball13]

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Modifié par Selene Moonsong, 08 juillet 2012 - 09:12 .

[Fauxnormal]

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Modifié par Selene Moonsong, 08 juillet 2012 - 09:12 .

[Mazebook]

@ Fauxnormal please don´t engage him anymore...one response is sufficient most times....

I now see that i derailed the thread in beginning with an unnecessary agressive response...let us not derail it any further.

Modifié par maaaze, 08 juillet 2012 - 08:13 .

[Torrible]

I've posted this before but I'll briefly state how the EC has fixed many of the major gripes about the original ending

1) Endings are vastly different now. No more RGB endings that look identical. There are as many as 7 vastly different endings depending on EMS.

2) Catalyst's origin explained (no longer an inexplicable infallible God-like presence). The fact that he was originally created to end the cycle but proceeded to turn his creators into the first Reapers gave it an added interesting twist.

3) More dialogue options when talking to the Catalyst. He provides much better justifications for each of the 3 choices this time round and Shepard gets to question all his choices.

4) Earth bound squad members reappearing at the Normandy explained.

5) Emotional farewell (of sorts) with the LI now possible.

6) Epilogue slides provide a better sense of emotional closure. The choice of narrator and voice acting for each ending is just damn perfect!

7) Epilogue slides reflect user choices made throughout the trilogy (endings are more personalised).

8) Endings are more optimistic. Normandy no longer stuck on unknown planet. Mass Relays can be rebuilt.
With a high enough EMS, all the endings provide a sense of optimism and hope for the future. Quarians unmasked, Krogan babies, Jack and her students, Samara and her daughter etc. What's not to love?

9) An additional ending to reflect the desires of gamers who want to tell the Catalyst off and seek no compromise with the Reapers

10) Additional soundtrack, including a remix of 'An End, Once And For All' and new tracks for each of the endings. My personal favourite has to be "I Am Alive And I Am Not Alone".

11) Emotional memorial scene with the Normandy crew where LI gets to place Shepard's name on the wall. So beautiful. So heart-wrenching.

12) The Geth now report in during the space battle.

13) Cutscene explains how Hackett knew about Shepard reaching the citadel.

When most of the problems/questions regarding the last 10 minutes of a 100+ hours trilogy are fixed/clarified and in addition there are new fully rendered cutscenes, in game cinematics, epilogue slides and soundtrack added to vastly improve the ending, one has to be a nitpicker of the highest order in order to still consider the ending series-breaking. (That was a long sentence but it has to be said)

Modifié par Torrible, 08 juillet 2012 - 08:16 .

[nicocap24]

Torrible wrote...

I've posted this before but I'll briefly state how the EC has fixed many of the major gripes about the original ending

1) Endings are vastly different now. No more RGB endings that look identical. There are as many as 7 vastly different endings depending on EMS.

2) Catalyst's origin explained (no longer an inexplicable infallible God-like presence). The fact that he was originally created the end the cycle but proceeded to turn his creators into the first Reapers gave it an added interesting twist.

3) More dialogue options when talking to the Catalyst. He provide much better justifications for each of the 3 choices this time round and Shepard gets to question all his choices.

4) Earth bound squad members reappearing at the Normandy explained.

5) Emotional farewell (of sorts) with the LI now possible.

6) Epilogue slides provide a better sense of emotional closure. The choice of narrator and voice acting for each ending is just damn perfect!

7) Epilogue slides reflect user choices made throughout the trilogy (endings are more personalised).

8) Endings are more optimistic. Normandy no longer stuck on unknown planet. Mass Relays can be rebuilt.
With a high enough EMS, all the endings provide a sense of optimism and hope for the future. Quarians unmasked, Krogan babies, Jack and her students, Samara and her daughter etc. What's not to love?

9) An additional ending to reflect the desires of gamers who want to tell the Catalyst off and seek no compromise with the Reapers

10) Additional soundtrack, including a remix of 'An End, Once And For All' and new tracks for each of the endings. My personal favourite has to be "I Am Alive And I Am Not Alone".

11) Emotional memorial scene with the Normandy crew where LI gets to place Shepard's name on the wall. So beautiful. So heart-wrenching.

12) The Geth now report in during the space battle.

13) Cutscene explains how Hackett knew about Shepard reaching the citadel.

When most of the problems/questions regarding the last 10 minutes of a 100+ hours trilogy are fixed/clarified and in addition there are new fully rendered cutscenes, in game cinematics, epilogue slides and soundtrack added to vastly improve the ending, one has to be a nitpicker of the highest order in order to still consider the ending series-breaking. (That was a long sentence but it has to be said)

You win the thread.

[DrDino]

nicocap24 wrote...

Torrible wrote...
*snip*

You win the thread.

+1

[TNT1991]

Imo, the EC was almost perfect for my Shepard. I expected more, but I'm still pleased with it. My only major problem I have with it is that they still left the breath scene a cliffhanger. Other than that, I can now replay the series again without feeling "ripped off".
I can also understand why some players/fans still hate the endings, even after the EC. The EC still have problems but since this isn't a "I hate the EC" thread, I'll spare the negatives for another time and only think of the positives.

My rating for the endings went from a 2 to about an 8. Still could use more Garrus though. Lol

[Rhayak]

Was not very happy with original endings.

Happy now

[Ticonderoga117]

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...
Time to retake Omega!

Why? It's a rock, in the middle of no where.
At best, it deserves to be nuked because it's full of Cerberus.

[Mcfly616]

Torrible wrote...

I've posted this before but I'll briefly state how the EC has fixed many of the major gripes about the original ending

1) Endings are vastly different now. No more RGB endings that look identical. There are as many as 7 vastly different endings depending on EMS.

2) Catalyst's origin explained (no longer an inexplicable infallible God-like presence). The fact that he was originally created to end the cycle but proceeded to turn his creators into the first Reapers gave it an added interesting twist.

3) More dialogue options when talking to the Catalyst. He provides much better justifications for each of the 3 choices this time round and Shepard gets to question all his choices.

4) Earth bound squad members reappearing at the Normandy explained.

5) Emotional farewell (of sorts) with the LI now possible.

6) Epilogue slides provide a better sense of emotional closure. The choice of narrator and voice acting for each ending is just damn perfect!

7) Epilogue slides reflect user choices made throughout the trilogy (endings are more personalised).

8) Endings are more optimistic. Normandy no longer stuck on unknown planet. Mass Relays can be rebuilt.
With a high enough EMS, all the endings provide a sense of optimism and hope for the future. Quarians unmasked, Krogan babies, Jack and her students, Samara and her daughter etc. What's not to love?

9) An additional ending to reflect the desires of gamers who want to tell the Catalyst off and seek no compromise with the Reapers

10) Additional soundtrack, including a remix of 'An End, Once And For All' and new tracks for each of the endings. My personal favourite has to be "I Am Alive And I Am Not Alone".

11) Emotional memorial scene with the Normandy crew where LI gets to place Shepard's name on the wall. So beautiful. So heart-wrenching.

12) The Geth now report in during the space battle.

13) Cutscene explains how Hackett knew about Shepard reaching the citadel.

When most of the problems/questions regarding the last 10 minutes of a 100+ hours trilogy are fixed/clarified and in addition there are new fully rendered cutscenes, in game cinematics, epilogue slides and soundtrack added to vastly improve the ending, one has to be a nitpicker of the highest order in order to still consider the ending series-breaking. (That was a long sentence but it has to be said)

well said ... Well said indeed

[KcK__]

Just popping in to say: I like the endings and have no problems with them. Sure, they are not perfect, I mean, what is perfect ? But they have earned a solid GOOD from me.

[M. Hanky]

absolutely in love with extended cut. sure, some people aren't satisfied with it, but I'm relatively sure they won't be satisfied with anything short of Bioware making an ending where you kill the reapers, geth and edi and shepard all survive, he's reunited with LI, no companions whatsoever have to die, and shepard starts crapping out unicorns and fairies.

once again, EC is totally amazing.

[Ticonderoga117]

KcK__ wrote...

Just popping in to say: I like the endings and have no problems with them. Sure, they are not perfect, I mean, what is perfect ? But they have earned a solid GOOD from me.

Uhm.... Mass Effect 3's ending is far from "good". It is perhaps the worse ending in a video game that I've ever experianced.

Considering I hold the single player campaign endings of Call of Duty higher, this is a bad thing.

[wantedman dan]

OP has been doing a lot of apologizing on behalf of Bioware, lately.

[obZen DF]

Oh yeah, alot of people indeed seem to forget, but as Torrible stated: The Geth now actually report in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Haha.
When I did the EC and I saw the Geth report in, I was like: Waaaaiiit a minute, did the Geth report in in the Original Cut?? NO!! OH This is nice!

Just one of the minor things that really stood out in my opinion:)

[Father_Jerusalem]

Ticonderoga117 wrote...

KcK__ wrote...

Just popping in to say: I like the endings and have no problems with them. Sure, they are not perfect, I mean, what is perfect ? But they have earned a solid GOOD from me.

Uhm.... Mass Effect 3's ending is far from "good". It is perhaps the worse ending in a video game that I've ever experianced.

Considering I hold the single player campaign endings of Call of Duty higher, this is a bad thing.

Oh look. They're back.

[Ticonderoga117]

Father_Jerusalem wrote...
Oh look. They're back.

And?

[Ieldra]

I would like to add that Bioware didn't exactly tell the truth about not changing the endings. The dominant aspect of all three original endings - the galactic dark age - has been replaced with a bright future in the high-EMS endings. If that isn't a drastic change, I don't know what is.

I can't express how utterly relieved I felt when I noticed that.

(Of course, they had no choice but to say they wouldn't change the endings but only offer clarification. Had they said anything different, many people would have expected the ending scenario to be completely replaced)

[BrookerT]

Ticonderoga117 wrote...

Father_Jerusalem wrote...
Oh look. They're back.

And?

and they're BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD. Sorry couldn't resist

[M. Hanky]

Ieldra2 wrote...

I would like to add that Bioware didn't exactly tell the truth about not changing the endings. 

when has ANY game developer ever told the WHOLE truth about ANYTHING that they were going to do with the game they were making?

but i'm with you, glad they did change things when they said that they would.

for you others, does shepard really need to fart rainbows to make the ending good?