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[adam32867]

djarlaks10 wrote...

Hell no, Geth are just a bunch of machines.I wouldn't even kill Jacob to save the Geth.

what about vega?

[djarlaks10]

Jamie9 wrote...

djarlaks10 wrote...

I don't care if I'm a Paragon or not after that, but explain, why would I want to sacrifice myself to save a bunch of robots who can be rebuilt anyway?

Because killing innocent people is wrong?

And, yes, the Geth could be rebuilt. But they wouldn't be the same people they were. They'd be different people. You'd still have killed millions (billions) of Geth.

But who cares about Geth? Well, except the Quarians because Geth are helping them to rebuilt Rannoch, but the Council can just send some volunteers to help them since the war is over. Remember, Geth are machines, why would you want to sacrifice yourself to save an oven that can talk?

[Jamie9]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

My point is that people tend to have more emotional attachment to the character they been playing as, establishing relationships with, etc. than the beings that have basically been bullet fodder.

To give a similar example, I'm sure everyone on this forum would, say, save Garrus over a platoon of nameless turian soldiers if forced to make such a choice. Because they prefer the one character they have a connection to than the many they don't.

I guess I just get much more immersed then the average gamer. I play my characters as if they (and I) am in that world. So, yes, if there was a choice of Garrus vs. a platoon of soldiers, I would save the soldiers.

And I would feel terrible, but that would be the right thing to do.

[djarlaks10]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

adam32867 wrote...

djarlaks10 wrote...

Hell no, Geth are just a bunch of machines.I wouldn't even kill Jacob to save the Geth.

what about vega?

Who would sacrifice Vega over Jacob?

This it the time where Kaiden would have been handy, but, alas, he's too busy partying with Krogans on Virmire 

[Jamie9]

djarlaks10 wrote...

But who cares about Geth? Well, except the Quarians because Geth are helping them to rebuilt Rannoch, but the Council can just send some volunteers to help them since the war is over. Remember, Geth are machines, why would you want to sacrifice yourself to save an oven that can talk?

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Something tells me your morality doesn't fit the morality I am envisioning - which was a "Neutral Good" morality.

[M Hedonist]

A Geth is no more an "oven that can talk" than a human being is a vegetable that can talk.

[Jamie9]

Sauruz wrote...

A Geth is no more an "oven that can talk" than a human being is a vegetable that can talk.

Calling a Geth such is racism, right?

[djarlaks10]

Sauruz wrote...

A Geth is no more an "oven that can talk" than a human being is a vegetable that can talk.

Okay, that was an exaggeration, but, still, they are machines, robots, whatever. Why would you so quickly sacrifice yourself to save a robot?

[Ryzaki]

Jamie9 wrote...

Cthulhu42 wrote...

My point is that people tend to have more emotional attachment to the character they been playing as, establishing relationships with, etc. than the beings that have basically been bullet fodder.

To give a similar example, I'm sure everyone on this forum would, say, save Garrus over a platoon of nameless turian soldiers if forced to make such a choice. Because they prefer the one character they have a connection to than the many they don't.

I guess I just get much more immersed then the average gamer. I play my characters as if they (and I) am in that world. So, yes, if there was a choice of Garrus vs. a platoon of soldiers, I would save the soldiers.

And I would feel terrible, but that would be the right thing to do.

Depends on who's more valuable. Garrus is giving tactical advice to the primarch after all. But if that platoon is more of an asset then him then yeah alot of my Sheps would let him go.

Except my Shep with a crush. Garrus ain't going anywhere in that case.

[M Hedonist]

Jamie9 wrote...

Sauruz wrote...

A Geth is no more an "oven that can talk" than a human being is a vegetable that can talk.

Calling a Geth such is racism, right?

Robo-racists, indeed. Hypothetical robo-racists. In space.

[M Hedonist]

djarlaks10 wrote...

Sauruz wrote...

A Geth is no more an "oven that can talk" than a human being is a vegetable that can talk.

Okay, that was an exaggeration, but, still, they are machines, robots, whatever. Why would you so quickly sacrifice yourself to save a robot?

They have consciousness.
That's good enough for me.

[Ryzaki]

Jamie9 wrote...

Sauruz wrote...

A Geth is no more an "oven that can talk" than a human being is a vegetable that can talk.

Calling a Geth such is racism, right?

Honestly you can pretty much do that with every race.

Asari -  blue tentacle heads
Turians - Dinosaurs
Batarians - Batarians. XD
Vorcha - Roaches
Quarians - bucketheads

So on and so forth.

So yeah my Shep'll sacrifice himself for some robots. Won't sacrifice himself for bucketheads, tentacle heads or Dinosaurs though.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 08 juillet 2012 - 10:40 .

[djarlaks10]

Jamie9 wrote...

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Something tells me your morality doesn't fit the morality I am envisioning - which was a "Neutral Good" morality.

Well, that's what makes ME so good. Everyone's take on various events is different. I, for one, would gladly sacrifice myself to save organic species like Turians or Krogans. But to save the Geth, no way.

[Jamie9]

djarlaks10 wrote...

Well, that's what makes ME so good. Everyone's take on various events is different. I, for one, would gladly sacrifice myself to save organic species like Turians or Krogans. But to save the Geth, no way.

Oh, yeah. Of course. I'm not condemning you for making a choice, far from it. Having choices is a fantastic thing for a game to have.

I have a Shep who kills the Geth on Rannoch (he doesn't have Legion).

[M Hedonist]

Ryzaki wrote...

Jamie9 wrote...

Sauruz wrote...

A Geth is no more an "oven that can talk" than a human being is a vegetable that can talk.

Calling a Geth such is racism, right?

Honestly you can pretty much do that with every race.

Asari -  blue tentacle heads
Turians - Dinosaurs
Batarians - Batarians. XD
Vorcha - Roaches
Quarians - bucketheads

So on and so forth.

So yeah my Shep'll sacrifice himself for some robots. Won't sacrifice himself for bucketheads, tentacle heads or Dinosaurs though.

Batarians could be called Buttarians.

[AlloutAce]

not for the geth... for EDI

[Ryzaki]

Sauruz wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Jamie9 wrote...

Sauruz wrote...

A Geth is no more an "oven that can talk" than a human being is a vegetable that can talk.

Calling a Geth such is racism, right?

Honestly you can pretty much do that with every race.

Asari -  blue tentacle heads
Turians - Dinosaurs
Batarians - Batarians. XD
Vorcha - Roaches
Quarians - bucketheads

So on and so forth.

So yeah my Shep'll sacrifice himself for some robots. Won't sacrifice himself for bucketheads, tentacle heads or Dinosaurs though.

Batarians could be called Buttarians.

Good one!

[M0keys]

Quackjack wrote...

 

yes! yes yes yes! gladly.

[legion999]

Yes it's called the Control ending.

[Paula3337]

Jamie9 wrote...

Cthulhu42 wrote...

My point is that people tend to have more emotional attachment to the character they been playing as, establishing relationships with, etc. than the beings that have basically been bullet fodder.

To give a similar example, I'm sure everyone on this forum would, say, save Garrus over a platoon of nameless turian soldiers if forced to make such a choice. Because they prefer the one character they have a connection to than the many they don't.

I guess I just get much more immersed then the average gamer. I play my characters as if they (and I) am in that world. So, yes, if there was a choice of Garrus vs. a platoon of soldiers, I would save the soldiers.

And I would feel terrible, but that would be the right thing to do.

I would save the soldiers too and Garrus, MY Garrus would want me to.

[Toki]

Yes. They deserve to live as much as anybody else, actually more than Quarians... I never let those jerks live.

[LiarasShield]

Since the geth never started the war with the quarians and since the quarians and because the quarians were trying to destroy them yes I'd give my life to save legions race

[AresKeith]

yes, I would let my Shepard die if the Geth and EDI lives, because I refuse to pick Control or Synthesis and I don't really care if the Main Character dies anymore, I basically expect it to happen now

[Kane826]

Djarlaks10 I don't know why you think your consciousness which basically evolved from bacteria is better than the one that was created in virtual reality. Self awareness is self awareness no matter where it came from, so yes I would save them 1 life vs many and besides you had no guarantee of survival anyway, actually the situation looked like certain death to me so why not to save whoever you can...In the end I would choose synthesis anyway...