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[daigakuinsei]

Just not in this cycle.  

Stop whining.

[JeffZero]

Looking forward to the Extended Cut!

Sweet, me too!

[Ingvarr Stormbird]

I think whatever you "win" or "lose" in any ending is a matter of personal interpretation.

[Rasofe]

Ingvarr Stormbird wrote...

I think whatever you "win" or "lose" in any ending is a matter of personal interpretation.

Agreed.

[semidefinite]

No you don't. You don't get the "finished game" achievements, so it's just an extended Game Over scene.

[GreyLycanTrope]

daigakuinsei wrote...

Just not in this cycle.  

Stop whining.

If it's not your cycle then YOU don't win. The people who come after you do, but not you personally. Let me, reiterate the Reapers lose next cycle, but you don't win in this cycle and are not around for the next cycle.

Stop failing.

[TheClonesLegacy]

Depends on your Interpretation
I just see it as Shepard Giving up and letting Everyone die, and letting the next idiots try and stop the Reapers.
But hey that's me.

Modifié par TheClonesLegacy, 08 juillet 2012 - 06:43 .

[Samtheman63]

If you think about it refuse is a massive loss for shepard and this cycle, as they'd get defeated and then harvested by the reapers, and then in the next cycle get defeated as reapers

[Necrotron]

Umm, you win because some future race dealt with the catalyst (according to twitter). So, essentially, there is no way to avoid/reject the catalyst.

Edit: And why did I just post in a thread that only exists to complain about people whinning?

Modifié par Bathaius, 08 juillet 2012 - 06:53 .

[jojon2se]

As said a few post up; all the endings could be interpreted and further fleshed out in many ways, good and bad, even after the addition of the EC slides and narration -- just pick your poison, be happy with it and let others be happy with theirs.

"They fought a terrible war, so we wouldn't have to."

[MystEU]

By refusing to make the decision, this cycle loses against the Reapers and the AI's "solution." It's a loss. A loss that contributes to a future victory, sure, but it's at the cost of all this cycle's current advanced races and the principle you stand on by refusing isn't worth that cost, especially if it's to avoid a decision that somebody else will have to make sooner or later. The loss of life alone (harvesting of all non-primitive life) is too great for refusal to be considered a victory. At the very least, it would be a victory in the sense that all extinct races of the past which contributed to the Crucible also won. Since they are all dead, they might disagree with that.

Modifié par MystEU, 08 juillet 2012 - 07:07 .

[silentassassin264]

No you don't win. You lose, you die, and you kill everyone else in your cycle because you are to arrogant and proud to accept a victory condition that wasn't completely to your liking.

[Fiery Phoenix]

Well, don't you find it funny that the next cycle wins through the Crucible which you refused to use yourself?

[The Angry One]

Yes, because not wanting to commit genocide, start a galactic dictatorship or violate every living being's genetics is arrogant now.
Oh well, the young will learn..

[mat_mark]

Refuse is just a Critical Mission Failure with cutscenes

[GreyLycanTrope]

silentassassin264 wrote...

No you don't win. You lose, you die, and the Reapers kills everyone else in your cycle because you are to arrogant and proud to accept a victory condition that wasn't completely to your liking.

Fixed

[SMichelle]

Greylycantrope wrote...

daigakuinsei wrote...

Just not in this cycle.  

Stop whining.

If it's not your cycle then YOU don't win. The people who come after you do, but not you personally. Let me, reiterate the Reapers lose next cycle, but you don't win in this cycle and are not around for the next cycle.

Stop failing.

Indeed.  Try saying you're a winner to the humans, asari, krogan salarians....oh... you can't because they're all goo. 

[Fauxnormal]

No you don't.

Refuse= cop out **** option.

[Fauxnormal]

The Angry One wrote...

Yes, because not wanting to commit genocide, start a galactic dictatorship or violate every living being's genetics is arrogant now.
Oh well, the young will learn..

Nope! It's much better to just kill everyone, and let the survivors be huskified! Everyone's dead, but at least my skewed morals and high horse are intact!

[Love Sherri]

daigakuinsei wrote...

Just not in this cycle.  

Stop whining.

Creates thread whining about people whining.  

Please enlighten me some more.

[SMichelle]

The Angry One wrote...

Yes, because not wanting to commit genocide, start a galactic dictatorship or violate every living being's genetics is arrogant now.
Oh well, the young will learn..

There's a lot of things my Shepard didn't want to do and yet she still had to for the greater good.  I like humans and turians (although I'm pretty amivalent about the asari, quarians, salarians and I don't really like the batarians or vorcha) I think they're worth saving from extinction.

[Father_Jerusalem]

You win in the same way that Andy Murray won Wimbledon today.

[SMichelle]

Love Sherri wrote...

daigakuinsei wrote...

Just not in this cycle.  

Stop whining.

Creates thread whining about people whining.  

Please enlighten me some more.

Sadly, this is actually thread number 14324 that is whining about whining. 

[Bill Casey]

Bathaius wrote...

Umm, you win because some future race dealt with the catalyst (according to twitter). So, essentially, there is no way to avoid/reject the catalyst.

Twitter isn't canon...
It's one person who worked on the game pulling things out of their ass...

The game had nine writers and five editors...
Things were peer reviewed and argued about before making it into the game...
The work itself is canon...

So no, in my opinion the next cycle did not use the Crucible...
We went down fighting and gave the Reapers a pyrrhic victory, and made certain the next cycle was well prepared for them. Liara told them they built the Crucible and it didn't work...

Modifié par Bill Casey, 08 juillet 2012 - 07:53 .

[danby]

Samtheman63 wrote...

If you think about it refuse is a massive loss for shepard and this cycle, as they'd get defeated and then harvested by the reapers, and then in the next cycle get defeated as reapers

Does that mean sheppinger is flying around next cycle?