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Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

DEATHSCOPE wrote...

DEATHSCOPE wrote...

Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

DEATHSCOPE wrote...

Ingvarr Stormbird wrote...

SMichelle wrote...
And that would be fine - laudable even - if it was only Shepard.  But you made everyone else pay the same price.  They were depending on you to save them from the Reapers.  Instead you turned them into Reapers.

Don't you realize how silly it sounds? 
It's like telling Leonidas "You killed everyone. You should've accepted one of Xerxes terms and saved them, instead of this stupid last stand which achieved nothing, except feeding your stupid moral high grounds". You think survival comes first. I think survival is pointless if we lose something important in the process.




If the Spartans had something that could defeat the Persians, I think Leonidas would've sure as hell used it, instead of saying, "No, we don't need it. One of our men might die, I don't want to sacrifice him, even if it might save all of us."

And you know what's important? Lives are important. Survival is what we are all striving for.

They did, they could have opt out, and I'm sure Leonidas would have still went down fighting, the same Shepard could have opt out by ending conflict but not on his terms.

Hold that thought. The girlfriend wants to go to Costco. Be right back. <_<

And again we're back to the same argument in the other thread. I'm going to stop here before we begin to say the same things over and over.

Good.

By the way, did you also get banned?

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Khajiit Jzargo wrote...



Deux Ex endings were amazing
Warning spoilers.


I had only a slight interest in Deus Ex before watching this.

Now I might dish out the cash for it. Well done.

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By the way, did you also get banned?

Like 5 days ago because of quote pyramids, why?

Modifié par Khajiit Jzargo, 09 juillet 2012 - 01:10 .


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Khajiit Jzargo wrote...


By the way, did you also get banned?

Like 5 days ago because of quote pyramids, why?

Just checking to make I wasn't the only one.

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i like pyramids, they be purdy

and on that topic. well not that topic but other topic. never played deux ex either and can't bring myself to go to the link, don't like things spoiled. so i am unsure if i will waste time with it

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Nezedone wrote...

Khajiit Jzargo wrote...



Deux Ex endings were amazing
Warning spoilers.


I had only a slight interest in Deus Ex before watching this.

Now I might dish out the cash for it. Well done.

It's a stellar game, good story with mature subjects. I will warn you, it's recommended to play stealthily rather than guns blazing because the game is hard, brutally hard in harder difficulties, you'll be hiding, crawling, and hacking a lot, but it's awesome! Also, augmentations=awesome, nothing better than having a gun for an arm.

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DEATHSCOPE wrote...

Khajiit Jzargo wrote...


By the way, did you also get banned?

Like 5 days ago because of quote pyramids, why?

Just checking to make I wasn't the only one.

Lol, I don't care what happens, damn mods.

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DEATHSCOPE wrote...

Ingvarr Stormbird wrote...

DEATHSCOPE wrote...

Ingvarr Stormbird wrote...

SMichelle wrote...
And that would be fine - laudable even - if it was only Shepard.  But you made everyone else pay the same price.  They were depending on you to save them from the Reapers.  Instead you turned them into Reapers.

Don't you realize how silly it sounds? 
It's like telling Leonidas "You killed everyone. You should've accepted one of Xerxes terms and saved them, instead of this stupid last stand which achieved nothing, except feeding your stupid moral high grounds". You think survival comes first. I think survival is pointless if we lose something important in the process.




If the Spartans had something that could defeat the Persians, I think Leonidas would've sure as hell used it, instead of saying, "No, we don't need it. One of our men might die, I don't want to sacrifice him, even if it might save all of us."

And you know what's important? Lives are important. Survival is what we are all striving for.

All Spartans have to do to survive is to merge into Persian culture (be declared "friend of Persia" etc, etc). All of these things could be counsidered little more than matters of personal beliefs. But they abhorred this choice.
Again, I say, not everybody is hell-bent on survival. Strange it may seem to you.


I'm back.

What you don't understand is that the Spartans do not have a race of sentient robotic beings bearing down on them, wanting to wipe out them out to the last men, women, and child. And again, Leonidas is just one man who thinks he's speaking for an entire culture of people. He refused and he and his men paid the ultimate sacrifice. Shame really.


Also I believe the Battle of Themopylae had a strategic purpose as a delaying action, that could possibly save lives and turn the tide of the war.  This is not the case here.

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It baffles me how threads like this go on and on....

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Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

Nezedone wrote...

Khajiit Jzargo wrote...



Deux Ex endings were amazing
Warning spoilers.


I had only a slight interest in Deus Ex before watching this.

Now I might dish out the cash for it. Well done.

It's a stellar game, good story with mature subjects. I will warn you, it's recommended to play stealthily rather than guns blazing because the game is hard, brutally hard in harder difficulties, you'll be hiding, crawling, and hacking a lot, but it's awesome! Also, augmentations=awesome, nothing better than having a gun for an arm.


tell that to a cannibal in the synthesis ending 

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Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

DEATHSCOPE wrote...

Khajiit Jzargo wrote...


By the way, did you also get banned?

Like 5 days ago because of quote pyramids, why?

Just checking to make I wasn't the only one.

Lol, I don't care what happens, damn mods.

I know right? Banned for something like that? Ridiculous. :pinched:

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Khajiit Jzargo

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DEATHSCOPE wrote...

Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

DEATHSCOPE wrote...

Khajiit Jzargo wrote...


By the way, did you also get banned?

Like 5 days ago because of quote pyramids, why?

Just checking to make I wasn't the only one.

Lol, I don't care what happens, damn mods.

I know right? Banned for something like that? Ridiculous. :pinched:

Funny thing is, he banned us without even giving us a warning.

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Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

DEATHSCOPE wrote...

Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

DEATHSCOPE wrote...

Khajiit Jzargo wrote...


By the way, did you also get banned?

Like 5 days ago because of quote pyramids, why?

Just checking to make I wasn't the only one.

Lol, I don't care what happens, damn mods.

I know right? Banned for something like that? Ridiculous. :pinched:

Funny thing is, he banned us without even giving us a warning.

Typical mods. What can you do?

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Khajiit Jzargo

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DEATHSCOPE wrote...

Typical mods. What can you do?

Nothing.
END OF LINE.

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Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

DEATHSCOPE wrote...

Typical mods. What can you do?

Nothing.
END OF LINE.

I hate it when they do that. It's so corny. Well, better stop before we're ban again.

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DEATHSCOPE wrote...

Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

DEATHSCOPE wrote...

Typical mods. What can you do?

Nothing.
END OF LINE.

I hate it when they do that. It's so corny. Well, better stop before we're ban again.

Yea we should.

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Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

DEATHSCOPE wrote...

Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

DEATHSCOPE wrote...

Typical mods. What can you do?

Nothing.
END OF LINE.

I hate it when they do that. It's so corny. Well, better stop before we're ban again.

Yea we should.

Probably a good Idea

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No you don't. You don't get the "finished game" achievements, so it's just an extended Game Over scene.



Wait so if I picked Destroy but my game glitched and I didn't get the achievement. Then it doesn't count as an ending and My Shepard is floating in somekind of state of Limbo?

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this thread again 0.o, wait forget it i don't think i should get involved this time...

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silentassassin264 wrote...
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So you aren't an SS concentration camp guard gasing them but you are still Adolph Eichmann signing them away in the comfort of your office.  (Someone else already godwinned so I am in the clear)  Just because you are not actively killing them does not excuse your passive involvement.  You can stop it and save everyone but you don't.  Their blood is on your hands.  Standing back and watching someone get killed when you have the power to save them is just as bad as firing the shot yourself.
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Since you had to go that direction; It's more like you are the one jew, who refuse to rat out the location of every other, even though you know the SS will eventually find them anyway and have their word that the camp is lenient.

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Dude, when I play a damn RPG, it's about my avatar and by extension his environment and the events unfolding therein.

If the player character dies, that's a loss right there. If both the player character and everybody he ever interacted with dies, that's a catastrophic loss.

Did you play L.A. Noire or Mafia?
I guess you can't win these games, eh?


L.A. Noire is not an RPG and not a trilogy either. It's a detective story that began and ended in one outing. I did not identify with what's his name... Det. Cole Phelps, right. Especially since the game takes away control of Phelps in the latter part and puts you in control of the other guy. You don't control Phelps when he dies.

(It's a great game though and the conclusion to Cole's story was entirely fitting considering his past and the events in-game. I was not mad nor depressed about it as I was with Mass Effect 3. Again, it was not a role-playing game.)

But all of this doesn't even enter into the issue, the comparison is moot. Apples and oranges all the time on this forum, get's on my nerves.

"But what about that one movie I saw? What about that book I read?  What about that other thing that had the thing?"

Modifié par Sion1138, 09 juillet 2012 - 06:05 .