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Ndcj

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Hey just started playign adept for the biotic explosions etc,i have not got the paladin gun yet so can anyone recommend a decent weapon thats nice and light and packs a punch for use with adept.
Has anyone got any asari adept builds to share with me and a list of skills that actually trigger the explosion as all this is new to me.thanks.

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Carnifex or Phalanx

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Ndcj

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Cheers :) am using the carni but it doesnt seem all that powerful though.

Modifié par Ndcj, 08 juillet 2012 - 07:35 .


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The Carnifex is powerful. Not to mention it's accuracy. You can headshot across the map WITHOUT the scope, and that's where it shines. I use the Extended Barrel and the Piercing Mod.

Also, I THINK the Talon is light enough for you, and that gun is just awesome. Mods are the same as the Carnifex's.

This is my Asari Adept's current build. I switch between the Carnifex and the Paladin, depends on my mood.

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Carnifex with Extended Barrel and whatever it's armor piercing attachment is.

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You have to be decent at headshots for the Carnifex to be powerful, IMO. You can try using the Disciple if you're not that great at headshots.

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Thats a really nice build will try it when i get a respec card. shame still no paladin,ill just stick to the carnifex then and try some headshots while waiting for power cooldowns instead of shooting the body of an enemy.

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VDubb wrote...

You have to be decent at headshots for the Carnifex to be powerful, IMO. You can try using the Disciple if you're not that great at headshots.


Eviscerator does it better IMO. The Disciple really needs a buff.

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Both of the above guns work, really any gun that keeps you at 200% cool down is what you want. As for the BEs on the asari it warp> throw or statis> throw. Do a search on the forum for a list of biotic and tech explosions I know there is a great thread that lists all of them.

As for build I suggest finding one that fits how you want to play. Just start at lvl 1 and pick evolutions that u believe will help your playstyle.

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Chriss5688 wrote...

Also, I THINK the Talon is light enough for you, and that gun is just awesome. Mods are the same as the Carnifex's.


It's not. The Talon I has about 150% recharge with the weight reduction. Adepts rely on rapid combos and should have as near to 200% as possible.

Your Carnifex is high enough for 200%, use that.

If it's not hitting hard enough, don't worry. Infact, why are you shooting? You're playing Adept and that means abilities, abilities, abilities. The only class that might need a better weapon is defence spec Justicar. Maybe Drell, since it uses Grenades anyway.

As an aside, Paladin is not the ultimate caster weapon, at least until it's a high level, maybe. It weighs a LOT. It's the heaviest pistol. Mine's at 2 and I never use it.

Modifié par IndigoVitare, 08 juillet 2012 - 07:52 .


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I like low cooldowns so I use a Carnifax at level 10 on my Asari Adept as it gives me a 200% cooldown. If you have mods or gear that improve power damage you might find you almost never use your weapon.  Other adepts seem to allow you to carry heavier weapons and still get a 200% cooldown but it seems to me that Biotic explosions are more problematic with their powers.

Modifié par BobWalt, 08 juillet 2012 - 07:50 .


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Forget the shotguns. Just my opinion. If you can shoot straight, go with the Carnifex. You're not a gun fighter. You're main attack is the Biotics. You need to minimize recharge time. The AA is too fragile to hang in effective shotgun range.

I use a 6/6/6/4/4 build. Stasis bubble, biotic expulsion and carry weight. My main gun s a scoped Carnifex X.

Modifié par KentGoldings, 08 juillet 2012 - 07:48 .


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I would use the Eviscerator over the Disciple, but only if I wasn't running disruptor ammo. The spread with the disciple makes it more viable for a Tech Burst followed by a Biotic Explosion combo.

Edit : As long as the CD is 150% or better, you will be fine.  Most of the time one is only getting a few hundredths or tenths of a second improvement in CD.

Modifié par Oninagwa, 08 juillet 2012 - 07:53 .


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Ndcj

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Some while back i think i remember a post saying some type of ammo triggers BE or sets up for a BE , but i cant really remember, so has anyone got any confirmation on this, does ammo effect biotic explosions?

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IndigoVitare wrote...

Chriss5688 wrote...

Also, I THINK the Talon is light enough for you, and that gun is just awesome. Mods are the same as the Carnifex's.


It's not. The Talon I has about 150% recharge. Adepts rely on rapid combos and should have as near to 200% as possible.

Your Carnifex is high enough for 200%, use that.

If it's not hitting hard enough, don't worry. Infact, stop using it. You're playing Adept and that means abilities, abilities, abilities. The only class that might need a better weapon is defence spec Justicar. Maybe Drell, since it uses Grenades anyway.


Depends of the Adept. I rock my Drell Adept with the Harrier, and so a 100% cooldown, and it works just fine, only because my main detonator is the Cluster Grenades, so no cooldown.

For a more classic adept, I think the Carnifex is the way to go, even if the Phalanx can also do its job just fine.

Ndcj wrote...

Some while back i think i remember a post
saying some type of ammo triggers BE or sets up for a BE , but i cant
really remember, so has anyone got any confirmation on this, does ammo
effect biotic explosions?


Nope, warp ammos don't trigger BE.
The only explosions you can get from ammos are Fire and Cryo.

Modifié par Aethyl, 08 juillet 2012 - 07:50 .


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Thanks for all the help guys appreciated.

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IndigoVitare

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Aethyl wrote...

IndigoVitare wrote...
 The only class that might need a better weapon is defence spec Justicar. Maybe Drell, since it uses Grenades anyway.


Depends of the Adept. I rock my Drell Adept with the Harrier, and so a 100% cooldown, and it works just fine, only because my main detonator is the Cluster Grenades, so no cooldown.

For a more classic adept, I think the Carnifex is the way to go, even if the Phalanx can also do its job just fine.


:) (see bold)

I stick with the Carnifex on mine, but then I've never played it on Gold (for absolutely no real reason), so the Carnifex X is more than adequate and I see no reason to switch.

Modifié par IndigoVitare, 08 juillet 2012 - 07:55 .


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I use my Talon for all my Adepts, with the exception of the Asari Justicar.

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I use a Carni IV with AP and EB mods on my AA. I rely on biotic explosions a lot but sometimes you just don't have the time for a recharge so use the Warp + shot or Stasis (phantom) + shots. Seriously stasis those phantoms. Your team mates will thank you.

I have a Talon III. If the thing ever gets over a Talon V I'll go back to it as it does have superior fire power. It needs to get the weight down since it affects the recharge too much at the moment.

Commando Gear packs will help if you're lucky to get them. If I can get that up to V the Talon might come out again.

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theillusiveman11 wrote...

I use my Talon for all my Adepts, with the exception of the Asari Justicar.

I love the Talon VII on the Justicar. What gun do you use for her instead?

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Talon is nice but takes getting used to due to the kick. Carnifex is still a fine weapon. I like the arc pistol but you need to be able to wear out your trigger finger.

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IndigoVitare wrote...

Aethyl wrote...

IndigoVitare wrote...
 The only class that might need a better weapon is defence spec Justicar. Maybe Drell, since it uses Grenades anyway.


Depends of the Adept. I rock my Drell Adept with the Harrier, and so a 100% cooldown, and it works just fine, only because my main detonator is the Cluster Grenades, so no cooldown.

For a more classic adept, I think the Carnifex is the way to go, even if the Phalanx can also do its job just fine.


:) (see bold)

I stick with the Carnifex on mine, but then I've never played it on Gold (for absolutely no real reason), so the Carnifex X is more than adequate and I see no reason to switch.


Haha my bad, too tired, didn't even realise. :happy:

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KentGoldings wrote...

Forget the shotguns. Just my opinion. If you can shoot straight, go with the Carnifex. You're not a gun fighter. You're main attack is the Biotics. You need to minimize recharge time. The AA is too fragile to hang in effective shotgun range. 


Everyone in the ME universe who has something to do with combat is a gun fighter. Any Adept can wield any weapon they want. Recharge time is vastly overrated, as long as you keep thing manageable you're good to go. Adepts are also perfectly fine for close range combat. Unlike, say, Krogan who have powers to make them harder to kill, Adepts have theirs to control the enemy. My Asari Adept uses the Claymore and she's can handle herself perfectly fine :)

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Carnifex, Talon, Phalanx or Disciple for its stagger effect.

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ToLazy4Name wrote...

Carnifex with Extended Barrel and whatever it's armor piercing attachment is.


+1, When I started I was running this within the first week, and quite often would get 25 head shots, I used the extended barrel and the scope, armor pierce 1 if I had it