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All Future DLC Will Further Dismantle the ME Universe to Prop Up Synthesis


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GiarcYekrub wrote...

Why not?

No amount of time passage is going to justify a scenario in which every one has NiteGlo skin, LED eyeballs, robots have DNA, and there are reapers prancing through London.

Modifié par Random Jerkface, 09 juillet 2012 - 10:46 .


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once again.....these endings will work exactly as DEUS EX HR did

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Random Jerkface wrote...

GiarcYekrub wrote...

Why not?

No amount of time passage is going to justify a scenario in which every one has NiteGlo skin, LED eyeballs, robots have DNA, and there are reapers prancing through London.



Yeah, this.

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They're more like the first Deus Ex, though the green epilogue definitely gave me the (horrifying version of) DXHR epilogue vibes.

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Random Jerkface wrote...They're more like the first Deus Ex, though the green epilogue definitely gave me the (horrifying version of) DXHR epilogue vibes.

no I meant in relation with the future of the franchise

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Random Jerkface wrote...

GiarcYekrub wrote...Why not?

No amount of time passage is going to justify a scenario in which every one has NiteGlo skin, LED eyeballs, robots have DNA, and there are reapers prancing through London.

wanna make a bet?

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Random Jerkface wrote...

GiarcYekrub wrote...

Why not?

No amount of time passage is going to justify a scenario in which every one has NiteGlo skin, LED eyeballs, robots have DNA, and there are reapers prancing through London.


NiteGlo skin, LED eyeballs, robots have DNA, alternate textures(like legion/not legion), they could be optional or fade over time.

As for  reapers prancing through London (same in the control ending) either set it somewhere other than London or have the Reapers leave for some reason

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Nah. But I wouldn't be surprised if it was something like the Rannoch result which turned out to be pretty useless in the ending. Oh, wait. BW can top that. How about a DLC that takes back Omega from TIM? That would do the trick. ;)

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OP, doubtful. They're gonna pretend so hard it's not lurking there at the end. And fail.

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Yalision wrote...

DLC that adds new scenes to the Sword space battle via new war assets would please me greatly.


I’m pretty sure they’ll read this as I WANT MORE SWORD FIGHTS IN ME3 and give you some AWESOME Kai Leng DLC.

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Yalision wrote...

DLC that adds new scenes to the Sword space battle via new war assets would please me greatly.


To what end? 

"We can't defeat the Reapers. Here's more cutscenes of your new DLC stuff failing to defeat the Reapers."

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AngryFrozenWater wrote...

Nah. But I wouldn't be surprised if it was something like the Rannoch result which turned out to be pretty useless in the ending. Oh, wait. BW can top that. How about a DLC that takes back Omega from TIM? That would do the trick. ;)



Oh yeah! That'll show him! Image IPB

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lillitheris wrote...

So, yeah, that. Sudden realization etc.


The ending is OBJECTIVELY flawed mechanically and it is flawed thematically. No matter what you do you are in some way agreeing with the Reapers by the result. They spit in the face of all the ideals and themes the series promoted. Mass Effect will never be complete until it has an actual Mass Effect ending.

I have over 1000 pts (given to me free due to a system error when i bought LotSB) and I still won't be getting any ME3 DLC as without proper ending resolution none of it matters and is just superfluous.

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Do you have proof?


No but I agree with OP. I liked the previous games better. Considering that ME3 is not that great, anything else will either make it worse, or just stay the same.It cant actually get better unless they make some mission that really matter. I mean, they failed with Javik (or at least, they could have done more), so how can they do any better if they couldnt build a story on a Prothean?
There was so much they could have done. There was so little on the Protheans and this is what we got...even with Leviathan, I mean, will it be any good? Honestly, I am not in a rush to get anything. There is no need for proof. The proof is in the pudding.

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Unless they go with indoctrination. Plain and simple the only way they can make the endings they have work for the series is to go with I T if they don't then they would have to retcon the last 20-40 mins of the game. Most people wont buy dlc unless it fixes the endings, and most people wont want to play a prequel. the only profitable direction is with I T and future ME.

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The Angry One wrote...

Yalision wrote...

DLC that adds new scenes to the Sword space battle via new war assets would please me greatly.


To what end? 

"We can't defeat the Reapers. Here's more cutscenes of your new DLC stuff failing to defeat the Reapers."



Cutscenes of people failing to deafeat the reapers is very deep and mature. It would fit the Mass Effect theme perfectly.

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Synthesis leads to a technological singularity according to the epilogue; that would be a very different universe to the current one

The only ending you could really build a sequel on is destroy

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There is no cheese.

Personally, i'm beginning to loose interest with Mass Effect all together. Playing through ME 2 and I realized, wow after this game I have to suffer ME 3. A game that portrays the Reapers as the bad guys but I end up killing more Cerbrus spawns then Reaper spwnas and it feels undelivered and incomplete.

I am still under the impression you have to play ME 3 with a clean slate. No prior experiences. Its the only reason releasing ME 3 on the Wii-U makes any sense. It is a stand alone game that borrowed the title Mass Effect and pretended to be a third game.

I don't want DLC, i want an expansion.

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Baa Baa wrote...

D24O wrote...

Dinosaur DLC takes place before the ending.



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D24O wrote...

Hopefully not, I'm more afraid that they'll try to make me pay to get retcons that legitimize the Catalyst and the shift in central conflict, not so much synthesis. But that's why we have reviews.


and that's what scares me. it's probably gonna be like they retcon a crap ton of stuff to make that retarded catalyst more and more plausible when the basic premise of a ghost kid god ai is just stupid to begin with. which is why if that is what they're going to do then I wish them luck because they're going to get 10 less dollars in sales at leats with this person.

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This has actually already happened, but with the 'synthetics and organics cannot coexist!' claptrap.

The first and only pre EC playthrough I did, I didn't have From Ashes downloaded. Playing through now, with an ending that, while still total bollocks, I can at least live with, I decided Javik was worth it for the extra squadmate, dialogue, and added comedy.

I learnt two things about Javik through this new playthrough:

Firstly, he's such a massive toss pot that he's actually endearing.

And secondly, that he will not shut up about how evil synthetics are.

Without From Ashes, the entirety of ME3 goes out of its way to show you that man and machine can live together in peace, and that we are more alike than different.

Javik however gives nothing but absolutes on the subject, synthetics are fundamentally different, wrong and dangerous. And what's worse, there is no dialogue to disagree with him about it. At best you can give some half hearted, naive sounding optimism that he's wrong, but you never get to point out to him that they're riding around in living proof that it's total claptrap. Never mind the fact that he claims that all organics are more similar to one another than any synthetic, despite every interaction with EDI or the Geth saying the opposite, and Javik himself being pleased that no one in this cycle understands him.

Similarly, you can't properly defend legion against him, no matter how friendly Shepard is with Legion or EDI, Javiks total contempt and threats of murdering them go completely unchallenged no matter what you do. In an argument between Javik and EDI, siding with EDI doesn't actually defend her or support her point of view, it merely tells them both to stop fighting.

From Ashes really rams the anti synthetic agenda down our throats frankly, without ever baking it up with any proof, and deliberately avoiding or ignoring everything that disproves or even challenges that idea.

I do however find it ironic that Javik, the only character other than Space Hitler to even raise the idea of coexistence being impossible without Synthesis, is the one character that would 100% pick Destroy every single time.

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And yet From Ashes still sticks one to the Catalyst by revealing that there was a race of organics who integrated AIs into their own bodies and co-existed with them... until the Reapers came along and turned their synthetic sides into monsters.

No I will never shut up about the Zha'til. Never, ever, ever.

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lillitheris wrote...

Yalision wrote...

DLC that adds new scenes to the Sword space battle via new war assets would please me greatly.


I’m pretty sure they’ll read this as I WANT MORE SWORD FIGHTS IN ME3 and give you some AWESOME Kai Leng DLC.


youtu.be/31g0YE61PLQ

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The Angry One wrote...

And yet From Ashes still sticks one to the Catalyst by revealing that there was a race of organics who integrated AIs into their own bodies and co-existed with them... until the Reapers came along and turned their synthetic sides into monsters.

No I will never shut up about the Zha'til. Never, ever, ever.


Yep, I noticed that too, inboard the Geth Dreadnought, yet when Javik brings this up again later on the Normandy in more detail, the fact that the Zha'til were turned aggressive by the Reapers is noticeably absent, and is treated as if it's just another 'inevitable' case of synthetics being fundamentally evil.

And once again, Shepard becomes a spineless coward with no ability to argue against things they can prove isn't the case.

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Random Jerkface wrote...

GiarcYekrub wrote...Why not?

No amount of time passage is going to justify a scenario in which every one has NiteGlo skin, LED eyeballs, robots have DNA, and there are reapers prancing through London.

wanna make a bet?

Oh hell no. I know full well that ME3 will be bottlenecked into another series with sufficient impetus.