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AresKeith

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Blueprotoss wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...

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I didn't say ME was real idiot and you think zombies are real

Yet you're acting like ME is real and the process called Zombification is real in Haiti while its process based on mind control with special drugs and voodo.


can someone point out where I said ME was real please?

You do act as if ME is real based on its physics even when its based around the space magic ingredient called Element Zero.


cool story bro

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some folks beleived that if Shepard chose the control option, it would be Okay, cause they could trust Shepard with the unlimited knowlege and power of the reaper compendium, or some could choose destroy, eventhough it's common knowlege that the cycle will continue because organics will undoubtly build machines with the ability of self awarness and then the wisdom to devine who their most common enemy may turn out to be,...But others have suspension of disbelief that reaper tech and Protheian programing could make possible a super weapon/contraption that could alter spacetime,hyper influence matter (everything is matter,even organics) at a sub molecular level, altering it? But everyone in the MEU would be foolish enough to build such a space magical device, because they have to..to make a choice forced upon them by a race of quasi sentient machines from the past?(they created...) Who'd of thunk?!?

(better think when you toss out that ole toaster oven..may be a reaper probe..we wouldn't know..)


Control kills shepard [you] in a way. 

The very idea of control is merging personalities to form a new identity. While s/he does retain some of him/herself, shep also has some of the catalyst.

Nevertheless, the idea of destroy being flawed is flawed per se. The game fails to demonstrate that synthetics are an actual threat but yet it's a red herring as it's the existence of a Reaper like race is the real threat. For example, the prothean's creation did rebel however they were on the verge of neutralising the synthetic race before the Reapers invaded. And again with Sheps time but with this a race that is intolerant of concious synthetics and synthetics being controlled by the Reapers.

Yet again, the game claims that the Geth are self-aware (belief in a god is considered intelligence) but treats them like they were psychotic terminators.

Did you not just play the game?<_<

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Did you not just play the game?<_<

I'm sure a lot of people didn't play the series or focused on "speed runs" .

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?????? Y U NO MAKE SENSE?

That line had nothing to do with control or destroy...

You said that Synthesis is magic based on its grtreen light then Control and Destroy would follow with thier lights.

Grimwick wrote... 

No it isn't... it's completely science based. You're thinking of Science Fantasy, not Science Fiction.

The game makes a premise that eezo and it's properties exist. From extrapolating this premise they can explain how FTL drives work, loosely explain how biotics work. explain artificial gravity. the communication systems such as quantum entanglers are based on modern scientific principles. There is little magic, but when there is it is glaringly obvious to anyone who studies science.

It appears those who don't seem to understand the principles at work think everything is space magic...

You do know faster then light travel is science fiction just like time travel, which would be space magic.


Time travel is theoretically possible.

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Grimwick wrote...

Time travel is theoretically possible.

Yet it doesn't exist which is why its science fiction not fact.

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Blueprotoss wrote...

Grimwick wrote...

Time travel is theoretically possible.

Yet it doesn't exist which is why its science fiction not fact.


Your point? You just called it space magic...

Modifié par Grimwick, 09 juillet 2012 - 11:21 .


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Blueprotoss wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

I didn't say ME was real idiot and you think zombies are real

Yet you're acting like ME is real and the process called Zombification is real in Haiti while its process based on mind control with special drugs and voodo.


can someone point out where I said ME was real please?

You do act as if ME is real based on its physics even when its based around the space magic ingredient called Element Zero.


Actually eezo's function is largely based on theoretical physics.

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Grimwick wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...

Grimwick wrote...

Time travel is theoretically possible.

Yet it doesn't exist which is why its science fiction not fact.


Your point? You just called it space magic...

Yet sci-fi is mostly made up of that magic.

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o Ventus wrote...

Actually eezo's function is largely based on theoretical physics.

I highly doubt that especially when its no Plutonium or God Particle.

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Blueprotoss wrote...

Grimwick wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...

Grimwick wrote...

Time travel is theoretically possible.

Yet it doesn't exist which is why its science fiction not fact.


Your point? You just called it space magic...

Yet sci-fi is mostly made up of that magic.


It's not magic if it is theoretically possible..

It then becomes hypothetical extrapolation. It's what sci-fi is based upon.

Magic is entirely the wrong word.

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Blueprotoss wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

Actually eezo's function is largely based on theoretical physics.

I highly doubt that especially when its no Plutonium or God Particle.


Do you understand what you just said??

What does plutonium have to do with anything?

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Blueprotoss wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

Actually eezo's function is largely based on theoretical physics.

I highly doubt that especially when its no Plutonium or God Particle.


And neither of those have to do with anything.

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Grimwick wrote...

It's not magic if it is theoretically possible..

It then becomes hypothetical extrapolation. It's what sci-fi is based upon.

Magic is entirely the wrong word.
 

Yet its not hypothetical while its magical.

Grimwick wrote...

Do you understand what you just said??

What does plutonium have to do with anything?

It seems like you logic isnt your thing and  you didn't give an example. 

Modifié par Blueprotoss, 09 juillet 2012 - 11:35 .


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Blueprotoss wrote...

Grimwick wrote...

It's not magic if it is theoretically possible..

It then becomes hypothetical extrapolation. It's what sci-fi is based upon.

Magic is entirely the wrong word.
 

Yet its not hypothetical while its magical.


Why are you going around in circles?

You are beginning to lose your grasp of the conversation here...

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Grimwick wrote...

Why are you going around in circles?

You are beginning to lose your grasp of the conversation here...

I still see that you're grasping at straws and complaining about semantics.

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Blueprotoss wrote...

Grimwick wrote...

Why are you going around in circles?

You are beginning to lose your grasp of the conversation here...

I still see that you're grasping at straws and complaining about semantics.


Ok I'm calling bull on this one.

The conversation ends here.

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o Ventus wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

Actually eezo's function is largely based on theoretical physics.

I highly doubt that especially when its no Plutonium or God Particle.


And neither of those have to do with anything.

I guess you'll never understand then.

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Blueprotoss wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

Actually eezo's function is largely based on theoretical physics.

I highly doubt that especially when its no Plutonium or God Particle.


And neither of those have to do with anything.

I guess you'll never understand then.


Clearly I don't. Explain it to me then.

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****in magnets

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Clearly I don't. Explain it to me then.

Radiation was used as an example of magic with the Fallout series.   The God Particle aka Higgs Boson is the real life version of magic.

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The space magic complaint is a complaint about something that doesn't seem possible in a the context of a given setting. Midichlorians do seem possible in the Star Wars setting. A Force without midichlorians also seems possible in the Star Wars setting. Movie critics will tongue-lash any movie that introduces something that doesn't seem possible in the setting. One of Bill Cosby's worst atrocities was the movie "Ghost Dad" because, as the critics pointed out, the rules about what a ghost could and could not do were constantly changing. The existence of technology so advanced that it can instantaneously change every piece of DNA in the galaxy doesn't seem possible in mass effect and flies in the face of the fact that the reapers have limitations and vulnerabilities. An antagonist with tech on the order of the synthesis beam doesn't seem like the kind of enemy that could possibly lose any battle with Shepard no matter how small. "Q" from star trek could do synthesis, but that's consistent with the fact that he cannot be thwarted in anything except where he imposes his own limitation on himself.

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Psychlonus wrote...

The space magic complaint is a complaint about something that doesn't seem possible in a the context of a given setting. Midichlorians do seem possible in the Star Wars setting. A Force without midichlorians also seems possible in the Star Wars setting. Movie critics will tongue-lash any movie that introduces something that doesn't seem possible in the setting. One of Bill Cosby's worst atrocities was the movie "Ghost Dad" because, as the critics pointed out, the rules about what a ghost could and could not do were constantly changing. The existence of technology so advanced that it can instantaneously change every piece of DNA in the galaxy doesn't seem possible in mass effect and flies in the face of the fact that the reapers have limitations and vulnerabilities. An antagonist with tech on the order of the synthesis beam doesn't seem like the kind of enemy that could possibly lose any battle with Shepard no matter how small. "Q" from star trek could do synthesis, but that's consistent with the fact that he cannot be thwarted in anything except where he imposes his own limitation on himself.

If you're going to talk Synthesis then you'll hav to lump in Destroy and Control then.

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AresKeith wrote...

those have been explain in the codex while Synthesis came out of nowhere


WE HAVE EXPLAINED FICTIONAL IDEAS WITH MORE FICTIONAL BULL****, THEREFORE IT IS REAL
AND IT IS MORE REALISTIC THAN SYNTHESIS.

I cannot, fathom, the idoicy of this one argument. Jesus christ you kids.

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I like that people are still trying to communicate with Blueprotoss. I get a few laughs here and there reading his posts, that's about it though. He really doesn't know how to argue let alone keep a coherent thought process.

Higgs Boson = magic you say? Please enlighten us on how what is a supposed physical property of matter, magic.

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I like that people are still trying to communicate with Blueprotoss. I get a few laughs here and there reading his posts, that's about it though. He really doesn't know how to argue let alone keep a coherent thought process.

Higgs Boson = magic you say? Please enlighten us on how what is a supposed physical property of matter, magic.

Maybe you should get off of that high horse of yours especially when you resort to insults after the truth stsrts hurting you.  Btw the Big Bang is magical and the Higgs Boson is supposedly the important part of that occurance.

Modifié par Blueprotoss, 10 juillet 2012 - 05:34 .