[quote]Facemelter91 wrote...
I like that people are still trying to communicate with Blueprotoss. I get a few laughs here and there reading his posts, that's about it though. He really doesn't know how to argue let alone keep a coherent thought process.
Higgs Boson = magic you say? Please enlighten us on how what is a supposed physical property of matter, magic.
[/quote]Maybe you should get off of that high horse of yours especially when you resort to insults after the truth stsrts hurting you. Btw the Big Bang is magical and the Higgs Boson is supposedly the important part of that occurance.
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I'm going to continue to insult you because this is the internet and I can. It obviously bothers you, so either grow a thicker skin and ignore it, or just keep on feeding me.
Here let me tell you a story. The universe at one point was compacted down into an unimaginally tiny ball where anti-matter and matter were constantly obliterating each other. Then something disrupted the balance and thus the universe was created. The Higgs Boson would explain how matter essentially works ( more specifically how gravity is created/works). So I'm not seeing how it is the direct result of the Big bang.
responding to your previous posts (because I'm a masochist I guess):
[quote]Facemelter91 wrote...
Yes, synthesis is fiction, and it
would work if it had been made plausible at some point in the story. We
saw a synthesis type thing from Saren ( I guess) and in project overload
( I guess) but was it ever, "look how happy everyone is! they are all
peaceful and fun loving in a technological golden age or something!". No
we saw essentially failed attempts, which was misery, pain, tragedy,
mind control, horrid mutation, etc, which indicates IT DOESN'T WORK,
that is if it was meant to be synthesis in some way to begin
with. [/quote] It is plausible in the ME universe especially when Saren
is the prime example of it and Project Overload was another type. It
sounds like you would rather bash the creator vs created theme instead
of looking for the facts. [/quote]
[quote]Blueprotoss wrote...
It is plausible in the ME universe especially when Saren is the prime
example of it and Project Overload was another type. It sounds like you
would rather bash the creator vs created theme instead of looking for
the facts. [/quote]
Plausible in the sense that it created the magical utopia we saw at the end. Instead we see and horribly disfigured and obviously mindcontrolled Saren attempting to kill us. In project overload we see an autistic man capable of doing incredibly complex math equations in his mind on the fly (not everyone can do this, just FYI). He then is forceably hooked up to a machine that puts him through extreme amounts of duress and pain.
So from the conclusions we can derive from these scenes, it would not or ever lead to the magical utopia we see at the end. In fact it leads us to belive the exact opposite.
[quote] Facemelter91 wrote...
Red ending works because it is an EMP type device that targets reaper tech in some way. BELIEVABLE within the universe. [/quote]
[quote] Blueprotoss wrote...
If that was an EMP then nobody would have survived whether something was organic or synthetic. [/quote]
Do you actually know what an EMP is? EMP stands for Electromagnetic pulse. Last time I checked that doesent kill organics. Under very special circumstances and at the correct strength it could cause a heart attack, but only in very rare cases however. Please Google next time, it takes 2 seconds.
[quote] Facemelter91 wrote...
Blue ending works because space kid is what Shepard replaces. We have
proof in front of us that there is a way to control all the Reapers at
once somehow. BELIEVABLE (to a lesser extent than red...) within the
universe. (This is all under the assumption you believe the little s**t
in the first place, to each his own I guess) [/quote]
[quote] Blueprotoss wrote...
It seems lik you don't want to hear what the Reaper's creator has to say. [/quote]
Yea...? Do I have any reason to belive him? He outright told me he is controlling the reapers, you know, the things trying to kill Shepard for the past 3 games. That is akin to leaving your safehouse because your would be murder that chased you there said that he promises he wont kill you. At least thats the way I see it, comes down to perspective in the end.
[quote] Facemelter91 wrote...
Synthesis does not work because we have no indication across all the
games it will work or that its even completely possible. Also what
Calinstel already posted. [/quote]
[quote] Blueprotoss wrote...
I guess Saren never existed in ME1 or Project Overord in ME2. [/quote]
Already cleared this up. We have no indication that synthesis ( if these events are even implied as such) would end in harmony, peace and "perfection". They ended in absolute mind control, misery, pain, and ultimately in one case death. If BioWare comes out and says that these events have no relation to the synthesis ending (which as is they really dont) well then it really did come out of the no where. Also 2 events across 3 games and some where around 100+ hours of gameplay is not good foreshadowing if it can even be considered as such.
[quote] Facemelter91 wrote...
The entire ending was near the breaking
point ,or did break at some points, the suspension of disbelief. It was
all crap, it could have been done better in so many ways its hard not to
laugh at it as is. Red and Blue remained within ME's universe to some
extent, they remained believable despite the crap they were created in.
Synthesis did not. Its akin to going to a hockey game and expecting to
catch a puck but instead finding you caught a volleyball. Synthesis is
"WTF is this?!" in its purest state in terms of ME's universe. [/quote]
[quote] Blueprotoss wrote...
You either have all 3 of them based upon magic or science while the realistic answer is magic. [/quote]
No. Red and blue needed to stretch your imagination a bit and relies on you not quite knowing how something works. With a limited understanding of how EMP's work, one could assume it was "shot" out at a frequency that would only destroy reaper tech. Or it was mearly some sort of radio wave that just stright up fried synthetics. Yea in the end when you really contemplate it, its a bunch of crap because its so vauge and flawed, but I dont see magic. Because of the flawed nature of the red ending, you can safely assume that geth live and EDI could have had failsafes put in place for and EMP weapon. That is a different story however...
What we saw in project overload (look, this DLC is actually useful for explaining something!) and what we can discern from the starchild is that there is a way to upload / translate a human mind into a sort of VI or AI. Blue ending is thus plausible, though admitedly vauge and flawed again.
Blue and red are small enough in scope, you could say, that is doesent make you go, like I had already said, "WTF IS THIS?!". Red destroyed the Reapers and synthetics. Ok there both machines for the most part, that makes sense. Blue made Shepard the god of reapers or something by taking the place of the AI child that I just had that lovely conversation with ok, thats within my scope of understanding / imagination / suspension of disbelief, what ever.
Green converts all organics into partial sythetics and all synthetics into partial organics, or just have their understanding or some crap. The universe now goes on into a technological golden age where every one is happy, there is no war, no famine, no danger, etc. Completely overlooking the fact that the reapers are all of a sudden buddy buddy with us, the sentient warmachines that were just trying to obliterate all inteligent life in the universe and are accountable for the deaths of billions, loved ones and all. Yup, no reason for hatred there. At least with blue, people would know Shepards in control of them, effectively making the reapers his puppets.
Green is just so completely out of this world irrational, considering the absolute impossibility of a "perfect" utopia occuring let alone with the reapers being apart of it, some how giving people implants from thin air, giving synthetics organic parts(?), DNA (?), or something? The scope of it isto large, and honestley to complicated to just say that "it happened because of a green wave" it broke the suspension of disbelief, it was pure fantasy, its was magic.
[quote] Blueprotoss wrote...
Yet you're having a hard time trying to grasp things based in ME's
universe let alone any other scienece fiction's universe. I have
noticed that you're just another jackass that proves the old saying
about assumptions. [/quote]
Wat? You can't "notice" anything because this was my first post. I'm not having a hard time grasping anything. YOU on the other hand are. You throw the words "space magic" around like it was an original term to be applied to anything that isn't within our realm of existance. I suppose the childs imaginary friend down the street is also space magic? Gravity must be space magic too? We don't have anyway to formally prove the existance of gravity, no particle to tie it to. We only assume its there because something has to be keeping us to the ground we stand upon and keeping the universe we dwell together, right?
Also, so I am to assume that I made an ass out of myself and you? Please do tell how this came about. I feel that all of my assumptions are rightly justified, as you honestley couldn't argue to save your life, and you can't seem to use google for most of the words and phrases you throw about beliving you know how to use them. namely "pot calling the kettle black", "strawman", what dictates an actual insult, "space magic", "magic", and "semantics". I'm positive I'm forgetting some.
Mag-ic
Noun: The power to apprently influencing the course of events by using mysterious or supernatural forces.
I don't see how eezo fits in there. Its not supernatural, its borrows from already existing properties from our universe and twists them (a spark of imagination and suspension of disbelief needed of course). Its mysterious to us because of its not of our universe but is fully explained within the games lore.
I see synthesis fitting in quite well with magic, considering there is no indication that works correctly or in the way the end portyrayed it. It was never foreshadowed in a way to make it even plausible, let alone a way to end the series. IT. DOES. NOT. BELONG. IN. MASS EFFECT.
The mysterious green beam is able to by the use of supernatural forces create implants for all the citizens of the galaxy and spawn and intigrate DNA with machines from thin air. Lol, yea. ok.
TL;DR... I don't have one.
Excusse errors and such, to much to go back and check. Might do it later.
[quote] Blueprotoss wrote...
especially when you resort to insults after the truth stsrts hurting you. [/quote]
[quote] Blueprotoss wrote...
I have noticed that you're just another jackass that poves the old saying about assumtions. [/quote]
Rofl.
(not sure why it double quoted up there, cant seem to fix it)
Modifié par Facemelter91, 10 juillet 2012 - 07:41 .





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