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#101
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Ticonderoga117 wrote...

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Still, no he wasn't. Saren favored subjugation. He thought organics should serve the Reapers as tools and slaves in the hopes the Reapers will find them useful and spare them death. He never condoned rewriting synthetics and organics to make peace between the 2 parties.


He was for both. He wanted to server the Reapers to survive, and allow a fusion of organic and synthetic. Look up the final Saren confrontation. It's why I think Synthesis is abhorrent, not only do you force the change, but you do the Reaper's bidding.


basically Saren after his first death is what Synthesis really is, not green eyes and glowing skin

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Blueprotoss wrote...

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@blueprotoss do you actually believe any of the arguments you're making?

It seems ignorance is blissful for some people based on how its easier to say plot hole instead of using common sense.

That doesn't answer my question.
Btw the saying is ignorance is bliss, not blissful.

#103
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Blueprotoss wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Tealjaker94 wrote...

@blueprotoss do you actually believe any of the arguments you're making?


he's just a troll who doesn't back up his arguements

Yet you're insulting people, which tells me you don't know the definition of the word "troll".


Calling someone a troll is not an insult.

#104
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o Ventus wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...

I see that you aren't interested in logic.


Coming from you, that's laughable.

Yet you're the on resorting to insults when you're wrong.

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Blueprotoss wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...

I see that you aren't interested in logic.


Coming from you, that's laughable.

Yet you're the on resorting to insults when you're wrong.


Where, in any of that post, do you see an insult?

#106
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o Ventus wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Tealjaker94 wrote...

@blueprotoss do you actually believe any of the arguments you're making?


he's just a troll who doesn't back up his arguements

Yet you're insulting people, which tells me you don't know the definition of the word "troll".


Calling someone a troll is not an insult.

When did I call him a troll when he doesn't know the meaning of "troll".

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I'm not a particle physicist so I can't say I really thought a whole lot about how eezo works. The point is that we know what it does in Mass Effect and that the characters know what it can do. It powers the relays and is somehow involved in Biotics. It's like the "spice" of Dune, except Dune gets really pseudo scientific and fuzzy with what folks can do with spice.


It's pretty fuzzy what you can do with eezo and the psychic magic in ME. Expanding it to enact Synthesis isn't much more of a leap than spice (spoilers) allowing you to live 10,000 years as a giant worm god with perfect prescient vision and the memories of all your ancestors back almost to the dawn of sentience.

What didn't occur in Mass Effect was that when faced with a problem, a character didn't just say "No worries, I'll tie some eezo to this baboon here and that blah blah etc etc".


Nope, because they had omni-gel.


Perhaps I need some examples on where eezo was given a few too many liberties. Also, I'm definately not arguing that Dune doesn't strain my suspension of disbelief. So yes, synthesis is like spice. The longer the series of Dune continued, the 'fuzzier' the use of spice became. This corresponed to a steady decline in the series popularity.

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o Ventus wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...

I see that you aren't interested in logic.


Coming from you, that's laughable.

Yet you're the on resorting to insults when you're wrong.


Where, in any of that post, do you see an insult?


thats what I meant

#109
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o Ventus wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...

I see that you aren't interested in logic.


Coming from you, that's laughable.

Yet you're the on resorting to insults when you're wrong.


Where, in any of that post, do you see an insult?

laughable is a start.

#110
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Blueprotoss wrote...

When did I call him a troll when he doesn't know the meaning of "troll".


This doesn't make any sense.

#111
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AresKeith wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...

I see that you aren't interested in logic.


Coming from you, that's laughable.

Yet you're the on resorting to insults when you're wrong.


Where, in any of that post, do you see an insult?


thats what I meant

oh the irony.

#112
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Blueprotoss wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...

I see that you aren't interested in logic.


Coming from you, that's laughable.

Yet you're the on resorting to insults when you're wrong.


Where, in any of that post, do you see an insult?

laughable is a start.


I'm saying your points are weak. Unless your skin is made from tissue paper, that isn't an insult by the broadest terms.

#113
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o Ventus wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...

When did I call him a troll when he doesn't know the meaning of "troll".


This doesn't make any sense.

Yet you're still contradicting yourself.

#114
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o Ventus wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...

I see that you aren't interested in logic.


Coming from you, that's laughable.

Yet you're the on resorting to insults when you're wrong.


Where, in any of that post, do you see an insult?

laughable is a start.


I'm saying your points are weak. Unless your skin is made from tissue paper, that isn't an insult by the broadest terms.

Yet 5 other people will say otherwise.

#115
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Blueprotoss wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...

When did I call him a troll when he doesn't know the meaning of "troll".


This doesn't make any sense.

Yet you're still contradicting yourself.


What in the entire f**k are you talking about? When did I evern contradict myself?

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There is "space magic" that is acceptable and generally required for a proper sci-fi universe to work. And then we have green waves of energy that are able to alter all live, synthetic, organic and even bacteria, in the entire Milky Way. Because some dude with implants jumped into a beam of light. That is what people generally call "bullsh*t" and for any work of science fiction that wants to be taken somewhat seriously this would be considered the "Jump the Shark" moment.

#117
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Blueprotoss wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...

I see that you aren't interested in logic.


Coming from you, that's laughable.

Yet you're the on resorting to insults when you're wrong.


Where, in any of that post, do you see an insult?

laughable is a start.


I'm saying your points are weak. Unless your skin is made from tissue paper, that isn't an insult by the broadest terms.

Yet 5 other people will say otherwise.


You're literally the only person in this thread taking dismissive comments as insulting.

#118
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AresKeith wrote...
basically Saren after his first death is what Synthesis really is, not green eyes and glowing skin


Heh, all the more reason NOT to pick it. :sick:

#119
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o Ventus wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...

When did I call him a troll when he doesn't know the meaning of "troll".


This doesn't make any sense.

Yet you're still contradicting yourself.


What in the entire f**k are you talking about? When did I evern contradict myself?
 

I guess you choose not to understand the facts then.

#120
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Zardoc wrote...

There is "space magic" that is acceptable and generally required for a proper sci-fi universe to work. And then we have green waves of energy that are able to alter all live, synthetic, organic and even bacteria, in the entire Milky Way. Because some dude with implants jumped into a beam of light. That is what people generally call "bullsh*t" and for any work of science fiction that wants to be taken somewhat seriously this would be considered the "Jump the Shark" moment.


that is very true, Synthesis jump over the line of Sci-fi to super fantasy

#121
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o Ventus wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...

I see that you aren't interested in logic.


Coming from you, that's laughable.

Yet you're the on resorting to insults when you're wrong.


Where, in any of that post, do you see an insult?

laughable is a start.


I'm saying your points are weak. Unless your skin is made from tissue paper, that isn't an insult by the broadest terms.

Yet 5 other people will say otherwise.


You're literally the only person in this thread taking dismissive comments as insulting.

Pot calling kettle black.

#122
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This thread has been torpedoed...

#123
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This thread has reached the point of hilarity. Congratulations Blueprotoss.

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Blueprotoss wrote...

Pot calling kettle black.


And with that, we can confirm his trolliness.

#125
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AresKeith wrote...

Zardoc wrote...

There is "space magic" that is acceptable and generally required for a proper sci-fi universe to work. And then we have green waves of energy that are able to alter all live, synthetic, organic and even bacteria, in the entire Milky Way. Because some dude with implants jumped into a beam of light. That is what people generally call "bullsh*t" and for any work of science fiction that wants to be taken somewhat seriously this would be considered the "Jump the Shark" moment.


that is very true, Synthesis jump over the line of Sci-fi to super fantasy

Yet ME is just another sci-fi fantasy like Star Wars and Star Trek.