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[mybudgee]

Because it is for kids..
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[joker_jack]

mybudgee wrote...

Because it is for kids..
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Because idiots hate anything that isn't the canifex, paladin, or bw which are highly overrated.

[Ashen One]

This thread was utterly hilarious.

[Megachaz]

The Reegar is a bit overpowered, but not as badly as the Krysae. It requires you to get in a very close distance, and has 0 effectiveness outside that range. On top of that, it requires that you barely move while you use it. The damage doesn't come out in a burst, it requires sustained fire.

The Harrier is an Ultra-Rare which already puts it in a different category. Its ammo is very limited. You actually have to point it at the enemies, unlike the Krysae. If you don't want to be married to an ammo box, you have to go for headshots. It also weighs more at the level you're likely to have it at when you have your Krysae at X.

The Krysae does nearly as much damage as a Black Widow, but is way easier to get to X. It has a pretty good AoE and ignores shield gate, making it the strongest gun in the game, but with 0 learning curve. And it's not even Ultra Rare. Also, from personal observation, Krysae users tend to be terrible team players that never revive or go for objectives.

[lordshenlong]

what do you mean "everyone"?

i'm sure you mean the small minority that whine about weapons on this forum, compared to the majority of players who don't even come here.

[soultaker65]

lordshenlong wrote...

what do you mean "everyone"?

i'm sure you mean the small minority that whine about weapons on this forum, compared to the majority of players who don't even come here.

Yes I mean the small minority that whine about weapons on this forum.

[Kyerea]

Crimson Vanguard wrote...

Maybe because it doesnt require any skills to use and is the strongest sniper rifle right now. Both Reegar and Harrier burn through ammo very quickly and Harrier is an UR so upgrading is a pain while Reegar require you to CQC

All of this.

[RonnyB]

Lynx7725 wrote...

soultaker65 wrote...
What character did you use?
The Reegar is easy to use if your character has a power that staggers the enemy first.

Bear in mind the platform. IMO, PC is better suited ot the Reegar as it allows for finer control. Xbox controllers are a bit hit and miss, at least I tend to miss. With the Reegar. At Point Blank range. Twitch and the stream flies off target.

Just don't cross the streams with another Reegar user.

Never... cross the streams.

[SpY2134]

The weapon itself is actually the next COD game. Prepare your 60 dollars kids for a useless weapon that you can't use since they didn't make a combat game just the weapon. It's script and code and such. Nothing else you can't use it. GG

Modifié par SpY2134, 09 juillet 2012 - 09:58 .

[.458]

I don't hate any of the weapons. I do like the harrier a lot. I just don't care about score I suppose.

[AsheraII]

The funny part of the question "Why does everyone hate the Krysae" is: in almost every other game a player is using it! So obviously: NOT everyone hates the Krysea. There's probably more people who LIKE the Krysea than people who like any other gun.
The Krysea is proof of the existence of the "vocal minority".

[Seneva]

I use the Reegar on my Krogan Vanguard and I'm pretty much unstoppable if there aren't more then 3 mooks around. I'm tempted to take the area charge stun evolution so I can take out a spawn completely alone without real worries.
However when the clip is empty you're an easy target. Always have a full clip ready before charging in and not a 50% clip. Reload cancelling is great with a kroguard. Hit R to reload and when you hear the "click" biotic charge into a group. Works like a charm.
The Reegar is so much better suited for my playstyle then the claymore.

Krysea ruined the infiltrator class for me.
Not unlocked the Harrier yet.

[DarkerCompanion]

In my experience, people hate all three, but to varying degrees. That being said, I haven't seen a Harrier hater in a while.

Krysae recieves the inordinate amount of hate because, 4 weeks ago, it was easily the single most power gun for the most powerful class in the game. It hits multiple targets, ignores shield gate, can hit on a near miss, and can even shoot around corners. It dealt more damage than a Black Widow on an equivalent hit. And for all that, it was lighter than most of the sniper rifles in the game (Kishock, Widow, B. Widow, Javelin, and about the same as a Valiant of equivalent level). Its "ease of use" and "point in general direction for instant-kill" design goes a long way towards its hate-dom. Its not just that it (was) absurdly powerful, but it took absolutely no real skill to use, as compared to guns like the Claymore, which have a very high learning curve to master.

Despite your observation, the Reegar DOES get a lot of hate, but not as much as it used to (because people are finally getting over it) and never as much as the Krysae. Usually, the Reegar hate was found in topics such as "Nerf ALL Rebellion guns" rather than in Reegar-centric topics. The reason is that, despite its very nice DPS, it has significant limitations in the form of its extremely small range and clip size. Ultimately, its ammo is pretty small as well without the ammo clip. It was still regarded as super powerful, but because you had to be close up, not so much.

Harrier hate tends to revolve around it being "better than all other ARs" which is a sadly telling fact which merely illustrates that the Harrier is arguably the only GOOD AR, while the majority of ARs are sadly underpowered.

[Adhok42]

To be honest I don't get it ether.

We ASKED for the Krysae when we asked for a Sniper Rifle that fired HE rounds. Now that we got it we're whining for Bioware to take it back.

So why the **** did we ask for it in the first place if all we're going to do is make the Devs take it back?

Hell I STILL don't have the level 1 unlocked so I never got a chance to try it out at all.

[Chealec]

Papa5murf wrote...

I'll be the first to admit the Krysae requires very little skill, but i still love it and am not afraid to stick up for it, for this reason:
I would class myself as an average Gold player, i'm not one of those pros who can solo Gold on his own. I also only play random pickup games - my Xbox friends only play Halo. So when i start a Gold game and see my teammates dieing on wave 1 coz they are running around like headless chickens, there is only 1 weapon that is going to give me a prayer of getting to extraction. And that is the Krysae

... and that's EXACTLY what's wrong with the Krysae - if your team are complete muppets you should fail irrespective of the weapons selected. It's not quite as bad since the TC nerf, but it's still a noobtube... and it's at its worst on the GI and SI because combined with their other skills it's even more lethal.

The plus-sides... 3 shots, AoE,  decent damage, ignores shield gate, not too heavy.

The down-sides... can't pierce armour, can't headshot.

Proximity detonation is normally a plus as it means you don't need to aim and can air-burst detonate to hit stuff behind cover - the only time it's really a downside is against Ravagers as it may well proxy-detonate on a Swarmer rather than the Ravager itself.

I dislike the Reegar less because of the limited ammo and the range on it - it's actually a handicap on upload objectives for example since your options are 1) stay in the circle and shoot the odd Brute/Banshee that gets past your team's fire or 2) run out of the circle to kill stuff.

On gold you'll certainly notice that 80% insta-grapple rate on Banshees if you're not very careful with the Reegar. The only change I would make to it would be to remove compatibility with armour piercing mods and ammo.

As for the Harrier - it's fine; it's actually a good Assault Rifle, balanced out by the weight (making it better for Soldier type classes) and the limited ammo. Is it a damned good AR, yes - is it the best AR in all circumstances? No - I'll stick with the Falcon on my Turian Sentinel and lighter ARs on characters where cooldown is more of an issue.

[ryanshowseason3]

Reegar and Harrier have a little something called balance.

Reegar has severely limited ammo. Only 3 reloads in spare! On top of the the range is severely limited, it is truly only usable on classes that can get that close consistently and not die.

Harrier still has limited ammo and chews through it. Also ultra rare, and the benefits of leveling it are not really noticeable you get one more reload in spare capacity.

Lets not forget both are heavy as a krogan.

Krysae: AOE, variable zoom, auto aim, stuns up to 21 spare shots goes from 3 extra reloads to 7 extra at X...

[ToaOrka]

Sniper Rifles: I can actually hit my target!
Krysae: I can hit near my target, that should be good enough.

[underm1nd]

I hate the reegar as much as i hate he krysae... And whats wrong with the harrier? Its perfect as it is and its the first automatic rifle thats actually good on more than caster classes. And it has its really low ammo reserve as a handycap.

[grpm]

Simple, the Krysae is for campers, farmers and ******.

[Striker93175]

Infiltrator with krysae, 3 shots reload... takes a couple guys out or at least one in the direct line of fire... not so great on boss mobs.

Turian soldier with max rate of fire on marksman w/ a scorpion... levels the friggin’ playing field...  staggers and whoops boss mobs and all who dare to approach. with more explosions than a krysae lover could possible imagine and even more forgiving just blanket the floor.

Which one gets the all the flak? The infiltrator/krysae.

"OP YO NERF IT"

Modifié par Striker93175, 09 juillet 2012 - 01:25 .

[Chealec]

Striker93175 wrote...

Infiltrator with krysae, 3 shots reload... takes a couple guys out or at least one in the direct line of fire... not so great on boss mobs.

Turian soldier with max rate of fire on marksman w/ a scorpion... levels the friggin’ playing field...  staggers and whoops boss mobs and all who dare to approach. with more explosions than a krysae lover could possible imagine and even more forgiving just blanket the floor.

Which one gets the all the flak? The infiltrator/krysae.

"OP YO NERF IT"

Ye-es - but you actually have to hit with the Scorpion and there's a delay before detonation.

I think the fact that the Krysae has been nerfed and the Scorpion has been buffed kinda says it all really.

[Locust2]

Achossa wrote...

cause the krysae calls forth poor players and non-team players who just camp by an ammo box and shoot explosive rounds from across the map. doesn't require sniping skill what so ever, even if you shoot at an enemy in low cover the bloody shell explodes above them as if it had proximity detectors.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XM25_CDTE

We can do that today.

Now honestly, in game, it takes a little more skill to use effectively rather than what's suggested.  Getting bursts near center mass do significantly more damage and killing guardians is trickier due to the tendancy of the projectile to fly off on a tangent you weren't aiming for.

Yea it's still better than a BW. Oh well.

[Kuato Livezz]

If a player is a better contributor with either weapon, I really don't see what the issue is. I'd rather have a player use a weapon that they are comfortable with than use one just because the forums tell them to.

[Star fury]

Krysae is OP and noob-friendly. No interest in playing with it.
Reegar is OP and noob-friendly. No interest in playing with it. It has several drawbacks as short range and ammo though. So somewhat mixed feelings.

Harrier on the other hand is not OP and it requires to aim. It has ammo of a pistol, which is ridiculous for full-auto AR. It has strong recoil. It's ultra-rare. So Harrier could do with a buff, ammo buff.

[xCreamyy]

soultaker65 wrote...
The Reegar can kill every boss in the game in one and a half clips.

...At extreme close range and with sustained fire only.

soultaker65 wrote...
The Harrier is the first true Assault Rifle in the game that by itself is OP.

 
...The Harrier is only OP compared to other Assault Rifles. It still suffers from recoil, it still suffers from bullet spread, it still suffers from a hideously low clip size.



People hate the Krysae because it's so horrendously easy to use. Point it in the vague direction of a trash mob, unload clip, acquire kills. You don't even have to hit anything. It works at virtually any range, has a high rate of fire, a short reload animation, it hits around corners, it staggers. It has a built in scope. It deals AoE damage. It doesn't require TC to function properly, setting it apart from almost every other sniper rifle. With an ammo power, it can do everything the Falcon can do, but better.