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Why does everyone hate the Krysae but love the Reegar and Harrier?


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#76
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Krysae is only OP on infiltrators really. I don't hear many people talk about the reegar except that star fellow. I don't think it kills bosses in one and a half clips though? I've never put AP IV on it with an infiltrator. Harrier is ok on infiltrators. It's not amazing at all. It's the least deserving of being an ultra rare.

Harrier....least deserving of ultra rare status

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If it was an assault rifle, I'd be fine with it. It would just need a slight nerf, like 10-20 points of damage. It'd make a great assault rifle if they got rid of the scope too.
But it's not a sniper rifle. You practically don't even have to aim it, and I never use the scope if I ever use it (the scope sucks on it, and who honestly needs to aim with such a huge AoE?)

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Mysterious Stranger 0.0

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The harrier OP?


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...lol


Maybe when compared to other automatic ARs...lol.

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Only the Krysae can single handedly get half the fanbase to stand up and shout down the Tactical Cloak because it manages to taking aiming out of the sniping equation, adds full TC damage bonus to an AOE attack, and simultaneously manages to be a decent weapon in the hands of every other class.

Reegar is extremely short range and eats ammo fast. Harrier has an outright ammo problem, but is otherwise a punchy assualt rifle. You'll not how neither of those weapons caused any classes to get nerfed, nor did they cause any universal drama of any kind.

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Sorry, but I don't hate any weapon. 

The Krysae is good weapon for my support role. I'd used it for suppressive fire to keep the enemy at bay and what not.. But some players then began complaining, so I stop using it (only use it to help out new players etc.)

The Harrier... What can I say, I LOVE that sob, low ammo and all:P

And i got nothing to say about the Reegar. The GPS is my go to shotty, so I've yet to use it... Or any other shotty for that matter :D

People will just complain about anything and everything, so pay no mind to them.

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Kenadian wrote...

Immortal Strife wrote...

I find the Krysae and the Reager to be rather rediculous and I don't use either except on rare occasions.


There's nothing ridiculous about the Reegar.


The Reager drops the shields off of an Atlas is 1-2 seconds and require little aim like the Krysae. I have no problems with randoms using either because they might actually kill something. I choose not to use them because they both are noob-friendly IMO. That's fine if you disagree more power to you.

Modifié par Immortal Strife, 09 juillet 2012 - 04:58 .


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The Krysae is labeled a sniper rifle, yet it doesn't require aim. Hell, it PUNISHES proper aiming as if you aim at the target you'll end up missing on the splash damage. That alone makes me freakin' hate this weapon.

Don't really care about the Reegar and the Harrier;

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landylan wrote...

Krysae is only OP on infiltrators really. I don't hear many people talk about the reegar except that star fellow. I don't think it kills bosses in one and a half clips though? I've never put AP IV on it with an infiltrator. Harrier is ok on infiltrators. It's not amazing at all. It's the least deserving of being an ultra rare.

Harrier....least deserving of ultra rare status


The Krysae is beast on every class. It's by far the easiest gun to use with a level 1 character on gold.

Modifié par Immortal Strife, 09 juillet 2012 - 05:01 .


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Krysae is a skill less weapon, it can turn you into a mediocre player.

Krysae air burst detonation makes it a gun that you DON'T have to aim carefully, as such, sooner or later your skills will suffer and you won't be able to use any other weapon.

I got mine, tested it, made things easy, but when I used something else I found I was missing most of my headshots, so I stopped using it.

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Immortal Strife wrote...

Kenadian wrote...

Immortal Strife wrote...

I find the Krysae and the Reager to be rather rediculous and I don't use either except on rare occasions.


There's nothing ridiculous about the Reegar.


The Reager drops the shields off of an Atlas is 1-2 seconds and require little aim like the Krysae. I have no problems with randoms using either because they might actually kill something. I choose not to use them because they both are noob-friendly IMO. That's fine if you disagree more power to you.


It's a shotgun genius.  Why would you need to aim something that is meant to fire from the hip from 3 feet away?! 

Noobs who try to get at an Atlas with the Reeger usually get stomped because they don't know to move out of the way when reloading.  I've heard some stupid things on this site, but the evolution just continues to spiral downward.

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Immortal Strife wrote...

Kenadian wrote...

Immortal Strife wrote...

I find the Krysae and the Reager to be rather rediculous and I don't use either except on rare occasions.


There's nothing ridiculous about the Reegar.


The Reager drops the shields off of an Atlas is 1-2 seconds and require little aim like the Krysae. I have no problems with randoms using either because they might actually kill something. I choose not to use them because they both are noob-friendly IMO. That's fine if you disagree more power to you.


Not using them is perfectly fine. But you most certainly have to aim with it. You can quite easily empty a clip quickly when trying to kill a Phantom but find you only took down her barriers and your clip is out. It's not "point and die", it's "control and fire in bursts so you kill things efficiently". I've already outlined on the last page why the Reegar is not noob friendly. To use it effectively you have to be atleast competent at CQC, noobs can't do that.

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Chaoswind wrote...

Krysae is a skill less weapon, it can turn you into a mediocre player.

Krysae air burst detonation makes it a gun that you DON'T have to aim carefully, as such, sooner or later your skills will suffer and you won't be able to use any other weapon.

I got mine, tested it, made things easy, but when I used something else I found I was missing most of my headshots, so I stopped using it.


The splash damage isn't such that you can devoid all aiming on silver or Gold.  Further, you need amps to make it effective as a naked Krysae won't even kill a Reaper or a Cerberus soldier in one shot on silver or gold.

I have a Krysae II and still prefer my BW1 to it (RNG trolling me like  a boss with a BW1).

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I like trying/using most every gun and certainly don't dislike any of these three.  I wish the Krysae/Reegar were never nerfed.  The logic that anyone submits that using X gun means they will not be a team player escapes me.  The more powerful the weapon the more free a person is to help/assist others.  If a person is not helping in a game with X weapon it's certainly not because of the weapon but rather it's the player.  On the contrary, a powerful weapon allows one more time to watch and deal with flanks, cover others backs, clear paths to and around objectives.  The support factor is significant but again this is an issue about the player not the weapon.

I appreciate that there are all kinds of weapons to use including very powerful ones.  While I've done gold solo's with just a carnifex, I don't particularly find taking long periods of time to whittle down a target fun.  Thankfully, we have the Claymore, Krysae, Reegar and others that allows taking down hoards and bosses (although the Krysae is not the best weapon against bosses).

In cooperative team play, any powerful weapon helps ensure success.  I see nothing wrong with success.  People like success.  A powerful weapon also provides the opportunity to assist others.  One beauty of this game is that one can build a character on the weaker side or stronger side.  That's what I call balance.  I like being able to have a challenging run as well as one with a much lower level of stress; a powerful weapon for speed runs as well as a challenging setup that takes a lot of strategy/tactics. 

Blaming/hating a weapon sounds like those who blame guns for killing people, like the gun has a mind of its own.

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Harrier = Well balanced, awesome gun

Reegar = Slightly too easy to use for it's power, but it's range keeps it from being totally OP

Krysae = everything a gun shouldn't be, too much damage, too much aoe, no aiming required

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Chaoswind wrote...

Krysae is a skill less weapon, it can turn you into a mediocre player.

Krysae air burst detonation makes it a gun that you DON'T have to aim carefully, as such, sooner or later your skills will suffer and you won't be able to use any other weapon.

I got mine, tested it, made things easy, but when I used something else I found I was missing most of my headshots, so I stopped using it.


xD.

Krysae nerf the players then!

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I want to take all the Krysaes in the ME universe and let a Ravager poo all over them...

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I have recently got the Reeger but not tried it. Last night I got the Salarian engineer though, and decided to experiment (I use PC by the way).

So, Reeger as only weapon, shredder and damage barrel mode in place. Long range attacks are covered with powers.

My tactic is to hide in cover, snipeing with powers. I place a decoy out of cover and bait the bad guys. Then when they go for the decoy I pop up from cover and melt them.

I'm on Silver and still experimenting. I am not a gold super game mind, but currently this is proving a fun tactic and is not leading to my getting taken out whilst using the thing.

Anyone else tried this approach?

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I don't usually troll other players.

But when I do, I use the Incisor.

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aoe is the main problem. However, I personally want people to use any gun that will help them take down enemies fast and not die with.

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holdenagincourt wrote...
Harrier's ammo problems are the stuff of slapstick comedy


Agree completely with this.  I've learned to once again absolutely DREAD the ME1 Overheat Sound Effect (Thermal Clips Gone sound in ME3MP) again.

Re: The Krysae.  I personally don't like/use it because of:
1) Scope
2) Cover-Fire Mechanics (non-scoped) sometimes doesn't fire.
3) No Headshots
4) Proximity Fuse

I personally don't mind if someone else uses it, but it's honestly not a weapon I enjoy using at all.
(Falcon + Scorpion is a combo I prefer if I want AoE damage.  It means that I don't have to worry about "Premature Detonations" as with the Krysae [Example being a weak enemy, for example a guardian, blocking the shot from reaching the original target, for example a phantom, due to how the proximity fuse detonates])

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krysae is a chill weapon... glad it was added

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From my experience of 100s of hours of gaming the 3 most devestating gun is the game are the Krysae (the king), Reager and Claymore. But it all honesty it's fine, I'm not calling for a nerf, there will always be a best gun regaurdless.

*all three are rares & easy to obtain.

Modifié par Immortal Strife, 09 juillet 2012 - 06:10 .


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bd2eazy wrote...

krysae is a chill weapon... glad it was added




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I worry about it now because of the rocket glitch. Saw it last night for the first time in an actual game. The Reegar is limited by its range. VERY limited. The Harrier, I don't even HAVE, so I can't say much about it, but there should be at least ONE decent assault rifle.

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i think most of you complaining are just plain silly.
several posters are saying they are noob weapons... every gun could fit that description based on what any one person feels is a noob weapon.

remember back when people were carrying on about how the carnifex was a noob weapon...lol.
silly is silly.

Modifié par Bolo Xia, 09 juillet 2012 - 06:19 .