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Why does everyone hate the Krysae but love the Reegar and Harrier?


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#101
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I don't hate the Krysae. I actually really love this 'sniper' rifle. Its more of a missile launcher really but with a really cool scope. I think its gotten a bad rap because people have used it poorly or abused it via the missile glitch thingy.

I don't care what anyone says, you DO have to aim, otherwise you're just firing off randomly and it doesn't have a lot of ammo so, miss too often and you're running for an ammo crate every 20 shots or so.

I have used all the snipers, Mantis/Widow are still by far the best in my opinion and work the best for me but the Krysae is just awesome to use and yes, I do get a lot of kills but I like doing that cause sometimes you just wanna slaughter stuff.

I can't say much about the Reegar as I've never really used it. I prefer the Saber over the Reegar and since I haven' gotten the Harrier I can't even comment on it, but it does look awesome and I've heard great things about this AR.

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Chriss5688 wrote...

The Krysae is labeled a sniper rifle, yet it doesn't require aim. Hell, it PUNISHES proper aiming as if you aim at the target you'll end up missing on the splash damage. That alone makes me freakin' hate this weapon.


That.

I don't hate people who use the weapon nor will I complain about how the weapon "ruins" the ME3 MP, but I just don't like it one bit. I don't like the concept of it and the few times I've used it, it just wasn't fun in the slightest. When I'm using a sniper rifle I want to snipe and be rewarded for aiming properly, not the other way around. That I can't even get headshots just adds insult to injury when using this "sniper rifle".

I also really hate the sounds it does. :pinched:

So to sum it up, I have no issue with people enjoying that weapon and I certainly won't kick people from a lobby because they're using it (then again, I don't kick for any reason other than being AFK), but the weapon is just not for me.

About the Reegar and Harrier, I like them both quite a bit, even if the Reegar is very unbalanced (shouldn't be able to use Shredder and AP ammo). I really can't see how anyone thinks the Harrier is OP though, that ammo capacity is just brutal.

Modifié par Zjarcal, 09 juillet 2012 - 06:47 .


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VladImpalerIII wrote...

The logic that anyone submits that using X gun means they will not be a team player escapes me.  The more powerful the weapon the more free a person is to help/assist others.  If a person is not helping in a game with X weapon it's certainly not because of the weapon but rather it's the player. 


+1
The most sensible post on this whole thread.

I don't care if you hate the Krysae.
I don't care if you kick me for using the Krysae.
But don't accuse me of not being a Team player unless u want me to accuse u of being an ignorant retard.

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Freskione2 wrote...

I don't hate the Krysae. I actually really love this 'sniper' rifle. Its more of a missile launcher really but with a really cool scope. I think its gotten a bad rap because people have used it poorly or abused it via the missile glitch thingy.


I have to agree with this.  I'd personally prefer if ME3 still had the "Heavy Weapons" Category that ME2 had, and put the Krysae as that.  It just doesn't feel like a "true sniper rifle".

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Papa5murf wrote...

VladImpalerIII wrote...

The logic that anyone submits that using X gun means they will not be a team player escapes me.  The more powerful the weapon the more free a person is to help/assist others.  If a person is not helping in a game with X weapon it's certainly not because of the weapon but rather it's the player. 


+1
The most sensible post on this whole thread.

I don't care if you hate the Krysae.
I don't care if you kick me for using the Krysae.
But don't accuse me of not being a Team player unless u want me to accuse u of being an ignorant retard.


I agree, too.  The idea that people who use the Krysae are selfish is almost as silly as the idea that anyone against the TC nerf is a bad player.

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UKStory135 wrote...

Papa5murf wrote...

VladImpalerIII wrote...

The logic that anyone submits that using X gun means they will not be a team player escapes me.  The more powerful the weapon the more free a person is to help/assist others.  If a person is not helping in a game with X weapon it's certainly not because of the weapon but rather it's the player. 


+1
The most sensible post on this whole thread.

I don't care if you hate the Krysae.
I don't care if you kick me for using the Krysae.
But don't accuse me of not being a Team player unless u want me to accuse u of being an ignorant retard.


I agree, too.  The idea that people who use the Krysae are selfish is almost as silly as the idea that anyone against the TC nerf is a bad player.


Agreed about that, when I see a Krysae user on my lobby, I just do a game test.

If they are teamplayers, actually helping the team, for the objectives, the reanimations and whatever, then so be it, you are welcome to stay my dear friend.

And if they just stay put behind their cover, camping the whole match, and not helping the team, then it's an automatic kick.
But that would have been the same if this player was using a Black Widow.

Modifié par Aethyl, 09 juillet 2012 - 07:15 .


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Bolo Xia wrote...

i think most of you complaining are just plain silly.
several posters are saying they are noob weapons... every gun could fit that description based on what any one person feels is a noob weapon.

remember back when people were carrying on about how the carnifex was a noob weapon...lol.
silly is silly.

If a gun is both easiest of all to use, and very powerful at the same time, it makes it friendly to new players/unskilled players (aka noobs). There is nothing about "feeling" here.

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Yeah with hindsight, the Krysae should have been an UR.

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Meh I do just fine with the reegar. no accident that it came out with vorcha and male quarian infltrators... and I'm on xbox

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I tried the Krysae for a couple weeks. It didn't suit my style. I probably wasn't using it right. Back to the BW on my infiltrators. Did a hell of a lot better. So if I see a Krysae in the loadouts and see an entire enemy spawn go splat now I know what's happening. I was actually aiming with the thing.

Harrier I don't have. Reegar doesn't fit my playing style. Works great for others.

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Kyrsae is what you would get if the falcon and striker werent crap. it takes very little skill, just knowledge of how the splash behaves and its radius, and how to shoot walls/floors....

Reegar and harrier are both absolutely lethal but both have the same extreme problem: They chew up ammo extremely fast so they punish anyone that spends even a fraction of a second missing their intended target making them only suited to people that enjoy running to ammo boxes or are extremely skilled with them. Want to burn through a harriers spare clips in a hilarious amount of time? Try a turian soldier with marksman set up for rate of fire increase, he can take a ammo modded harrier and drain it in literal seconds but that sudden flood of bullets has obliterated quite a few pyros, hunters and phantoms that snuck up on me.

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To me all 3 are very under powered and suck. I hate all 3. What now?

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Crimson Vanguard wrote...

Maybe because it doesnt require any skills to use and is the strongest sniper rifle right now. Both Reegar and Harrier burn through ammo very quickly and Harrier is an UR so upgrading is a pain while Reegar require you to CQC


I disagree, there are other sniper rifles that do more raw damage than it does, it can not get head shots and the fact that the rounds explode when they get close to any nonplayer can really bite you in the ass as well.  Much like the falcon they will go off if they pass close to allied drones/turrents

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Skill-sae you mean?

Reeger's fine. It's a flamethrower in usage and is a melee only weapon that basically requires you to break cover. I have no issue with it.

But I was amazed at how great of an infiltrator I suddenly became when I used the skill-sae.

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I never understood the hate on these guns. I don't use them all the time . But they add a nice variety to my buffet of destruction.

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The krysae would be balanced if the shot explodes after hitting the target.

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Crimson Vanguard wrote...

Maybe because it doesnt require any skills to use and is the strongest sniper rifle right now. Both Reegar and Harrier burn through ammo very quickly and Harrier is an UR so upgrading is a pain while Reegar require you to CQC


this. The Krysae is a Gold card. And it can be more effective than the Black Widow and Javelin which are UR.

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Immortal Strife wrote...

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Krysae is only OP on infiltrators really. I don't hear many people talk about the reegar except that star fellow. I don't think it kills bosses in one and a half clips though? I've never put AP IV on it with an infiltrator. Harrier is ok on infiltrators. It's not amazing at all. It's the least deserving of being an ultra rare.

Harrier....least deserving of ultra rare status


The Krysae is beast on every class. It's by far the easiest gun to use with a level 1 character on gold.

I know it's good on everything. Infiltrator bonuses just made it ridiculous though.

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I don't hate the Krysae but I don't like using it...  contrary to what everyone else thinks, to me, this weapon hurts my performance in the game.  Slow firing, premature detonations, and generally lacking OSK prowess given no headshots, plus Guardians are hit/miss with the splash.  I can easily outscore myself when using the Hurricane, Harrier, Claymore, Wraith vs. the Krysae.

The Harrier really need more ammo.  Constantly running on empty.  I carry it together with the Reegar on my Krogan Sentinel.  I think it takes at least 3 clips of each to put down a boss though.

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GGW KillerTiger wrote...

To me all 3 are very under powered and suck. I hate all 3. What now?


No one cares about your personal opinion. Even if you weren't just trolling, because no one could possibly think these weapons suck at rank x. 


Numbers support the claim to 2/3 of these weapons being over the top. The reegar has the highest barrier/shield dps in the game as well as small aoe capabilties. The Kyrsae, a rare does more damage than the black widow,  a ultra rare and also out classes the widow,javelin,and mantis. Add the fact it has a guarnteed stagger for non boss enemies,AoE, and armor piercing capabilties you really have little to stand on if you claim it's not overpowered when compared to other snipers. 


rather than just troll with an evident lie because you don't want the guns nerfed, how bout actually making an argument for why they shouldn't be nerfed or are not OP. 

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Locust2 wrote...

Achossa wrote...

cause the krysae calls forth poor players and non-team players who just camp by an ammo box and shoot explosive rounds from across the map. doesn't require sniping skill what so ever, even if you shoot at an enemy in low cover the bloody shell explodes above them as if it had proximity detectors.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XM25_CDTE 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XM25_CDTE 

We can do that today.

Now honestly, in game, it takes a little more skill to use effectively rather than what's suggested.  Getting bursts near center mass do significantly more damage and killing guardians is trickier due to the tendancy of the projectile to fly off on a tangent you weren't aiming for.

Yea it's still better than a BW. Oh well.


The weapon requires little skill at all to use effectively. Point into center of crowds, aim to feet (or if Guardians, aim behind them) and press the trigger. Holy ****, so much skill. It's the noob tube of Mass Effect 3 MP. Not too mention as a Rare, it takes no time whatsoever to max out (assuming play Gold regularly). Does it out-dps/nuke spawns faster than any other SR? Of course, that's not up for debate. Even after the Krysae and TC nerf, it still has that capability to an extent. Is it still a noob tube or an excuse for most player to use a weapon that requires no precision at all? You bet.

As it is, the Black Widow is one of the best "real" Sniper Rifles in the game following TC's Rank 6 SR nerf. The Harrier? Low ammo and you have to actually place your shots. Reegar? Requires you to expose yourself in CQC and also burns through ammo.

Modifié par Kyerea, 09 juillet 2012 - 09:15 .


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but but.. I don't love the reegar or the harrier :\\

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Tzarakiel wrote...

The krysae would be balanced if the shot explodes after hitting the target.


YES! When I read about it on the ME site in the DLC news I was excited. I expected a Javelin/Widow like bolt-action sniper rifle that has strong armor-piercing and an exploding ammo which does collateral dmg around the target WHEN YOU HIT THE TARGET! Then what I got is a weapon-for-noobs that requires no aiming, doh.

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Both the Reeger and Harrier are balanced well. The Krysae is poorly designed and should have been something like a 2 shot AR which only had an AOE triggered by actually hitting the target.

Modifié par dday3six, 10 juillet 2012 - 09:50 .


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Disagreed. You have to remember that every gun has a disadvantage. The Krysae is unable to penetrate cover, you also have to hold the trigger if you want to zoom it on more to what other snipers zoom into by default. It's also odd to use when you're not hosting/have lag, if you notice, when you shoot it takes a second to see the shot actually come out the gun, at least with other snipers the shoot comes out straight away, it's just the hit detection that lags, not the actual shot. It's also the only sniper that takes time for the shot to hit the target after pulling the trigger, since it's not shooting out a bullet or laser, it's shooting out a tiny missle/rocket thingy.

If others would stop looking at JUST the guns benefits, then maybe they can understand that then it's not as OP as it seems.