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Why does everyone hate the Krysae but love the Reegar and Harrier?


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#126
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N R Nuclear Sam wrote...

The Krysae is unable to penetrate cover, you also have to hold the trigger if you want to zoom it on more to what other snipers zoom into by default.


What? Is that true? When I tried the Krysae 1st time I was so underwhelmed of the slow projectiles and the missing adaptin zoom. I don't use it, gave it a shot with a soldier and still didn't convince me.

Also:
I don't always take the Reegar, but when I do, I always notice the firing delay. This is not my favourite gun.

And:
Harrier? It's just a rumor. It does not exist. Quit speculating about it. (Hint: Manifest)

#127
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Yeah holding the trigger zooms it in to another 50% more distance or something like that.

The harrier exists. It's called the "Cerberus Harrier" in the Ultra Rare gun section :)

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N R Nuclear Sam wrote...

Disagreed. You have to remember that every gun has a disadvantage. The Krysae is unable to penetrate cover, you also have to hold the trigger if you want to zoom it on more to what other snipers zoom into by default. It's also odd to use when you're not hosting/have lag, if you notice, when you shoot it takes a second to see the shot actually come out the gun, at least with other snipers the shoot comes out straight away, it's just the hit detection that lags, not the actual shot. It's also the only sniper that takes time for the shot to hit the target after pulling the trigger, since it's not shooting out a bullet or laser, it's shooting out a tiny missle/rocket thingy.

If others would stop looking at JUST the guns benefits, then maybe they can understand that then it's not as OP as it seems.


Now compare those trifling little downsides against say, any other sniper rifle... and you'll understand it IS as OP as it seems. *shrugs*

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It all really boils down to two main reason people don't like the Krysae.

1 Infiltrators had a lot of fun learning to snipe well and now with the Krysae its' too easy, it's boring.

2 The Krysae has a huge AOE making a kill stealer. Widow, BW Infiltrators see all their targets explode before their eyes.

But the Krysae as an assault rifle, it's pretty great, I like using it on my Vorcha.

Modifié par archangelV, 10 juillet 2012 - 01:22 .


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I only have the Krysae and the Harrier but the Reegar looks pretty sweet. I quite like the Krysae as it blows stuff up really quick but the Harrier is just a godly beast.

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Only thing krysaes good at is steeling kills after wave 3.

#132
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of the three I use the Krysae the most

sorry to anyone whose kills I've stolen

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I think the Krysae's issue is that you don't really have to aim it. It requires next to no skill. The fact that it passively AoE's is joke of the year.

That gun should be revamped to actually require some skill. Either that or its weight should be at Javelin I levels.

#134
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It's just a bit of fun!

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Actually i don't know how to use this weapon, even i want to learn

but my very first question about this weapon.....

Does the special zooming 10X increase the damage????

if not then i can do a trigger happy using this gun

#136
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Harrier is the monster of the three guns. Aside from forming emotional attachments to ammo boxes, it's plus sides mean I barely use another AR anymore. Does require skill, OP. Ammo issues mean I often carry my Predator X just so that in a pinch I still have a gun.

The Reegar is pretty chill but, like so many have said, requires a modicum of skill. Best use i've found is on Infils, so you get that damage bonus from TacCloak as well as the whole Cloaking issue.

Krysae is a bit of a beast too. Was in a game last night on GG where the entire rest of the lobby was using a Krysae from rank I up through to X. To say it's "hated" is an innacurate comment.

#137
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the krysae is the easy button, for all of the reasons listed here.
for added effect the enemies that are shot-flurry killed turn to dust, a twist of the knife.
seeing 4 shielded pyros disintegrate in 3 shots that you can literally hear is just wrong.

Modifié par darkpassenger2342, 17 juillet 2012 - 05:00 .


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nicethugbert wrote...

Because they're paying a monthy subscription for aimbots so they don't like it when non-aimbotters can steal their kills for free.


The first times I played ME3 MP I saw often some sniper INF´s head shoot 3 RUNNING assault troopers (with a black widow) and wondered wtf.

At that time I thought PSP, XBOX and PC were playing all together, so the console players had some auto-aim advantages over PC players.

But no, I was playing with PC players only.

So if you say there is such thing as aim-bots I can stop wondering how they pull such miracles in 1,5 seconds off.

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I think people hate my arc grenades more than the harrier. They haven't ever said so, but I can't play more than four matches without getting self conscious about my Quarian Male Infiltrator and change to another class.

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soultaker65 wrote...

The Reegar can kill every boss in the game in one and a half clips.


Is that why when I'm soloing silver it takes all 165 shots from my Reegar X with extended clip and AP mod to bring down one geth prime, even with occasional charges and meleeing?

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All three weapons are overrated. The people who "hate" these weapons are silly. This thread is silly.

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The fact you don't have to have good aim makes the Krysae feel real cheap. I feel the same way about the GPS, it is not for me at all. The Reegar involves a lot of risk, getting in that close and it is useless on most any class other than a tank build, or infiltrator. The Harrier is strong, and at times seems cheap but considering the amount of ammo, and how fast you go through it managing your consumption becomes a skill all its own.

Out of the 3 I only use the Harrier though, the others are just not my cup of tea.

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Tzarakiel wrote...

The krysae would be balanced if the shot explodes after hitting the target.


That would actually make it much, much more powerful.  It's... not sure how to explain this.  Makes sense in my head, but... okay, imagine there's 4 mooks loosely grouped together.  You fire the krysae at them now and the proximity fuse makes it air burst some distance from the nearest one.  If it only burst once it made contact then the explosion would reach the further ones much easier.  It would require aiming yes, but it would also greatly enhance its multi-kill ability.

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Josh.de wrote...

nicethugbert wrote...

Because they're paying a monthy subscription for aimbots so they don't like it when non-aimbotters can steal their kills for free.


The first times I played ME3 MP I saw often some sniper INF´s head shoot 3 RUNNING assault troopers (with a black widow) and wondered wtf.


So if you say there is such thing as aim-bots I can stop wondering how they pull such miracles in 1,5 seconds off.


You don't need an aimbot to do that, you know? =]

#145
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Who keeps bumping this topic? I stopped thinking about this a week ago. Stop bumping this topic!

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^ lol you bumped it!!!!

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Rifneno wrote...

soultaker65 wrote...

The Reegar can kill every boss in the game in one and a half clips.


Is that why when I'm soloing silver it takes all 165 shots from my Reegar X with extended clip and AP mod to bring down one geth prime, even with occasional charges and meleeing?


He probably means on an Infiltrator (Salarian or Geth) which is actually true. 

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Crimson Vanguard wrote...

Maybe because it doesnt require any skills to use and is the strongest sniper rifle right now. Both Reegar and Harrier burn through ammo very quickly and Harrier is an UR so upgrading is a pain while Reegar require you to CQC


The irony of what you are implying. That's kind of what firearms do. Guns killed off the samurai, primarily because anybody can pull a trigger, while managing to beat someone in swordplay is truly difficult. They were invented to make war easy and that's exactly what they do. The Krysae is a perfect example of this.

Also, the reegar doesn't "require" you to CQC, it is functionally a panic-button weapon, meant for use only when the enemy is close enough to you, like all shotguns, it's essentially a combat knife, outside of call of duty, nobody would ever pull out a knife and run full-pelt at you. You don't go to them, they go to you. Use of a lightweight sidearm to whittle down those units is a common strategy, as only an idiot charges out of their optimal cover straight into the firing line.

The harrier is very useful, but a few people seem to not notice that without modification, its sustained DPS is a fair bit lower than its actual DPS. The Hurricane is like this, it has a lot of damage, but it runs dry fast, and so the actual damage you put out is lower than you'd think.

As for the Krysae, that, frankly is just people being a little hypocritical about weapons. Sure, the Krysae is such a thing, but the Harrier isn't? What about the Paladin, the Talon, and all of those? We don't use them on gold because they look pretty, and I've yet to see someone ask "How do I use this thing?" while using them.

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I hate the Krysae because of the sound effects, looks and the fact that it, being a sniper rifle, punishes proper aiming as if you aim directly at the enemy you'll waste the splash damage. I am not too fond of the Reegar either, as I find it a weapon that is easy to use, yet the rewards for doing so are enormous.

Pretty indifferent about the Harrier.

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i completely disagree with the ridiculous shotgun tactics posted by the guy above me. i stopped reading there.