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[Baronesa]

OneWomanArmy wrote...

Kaidan is just half ruined for me... kinda hard to explain but seeing all those pics thrown at me on these forums of Kaidan and male shep well they kinda burn into my mind.... and its not pretty! Miranda and Ashley are just not the types to be into women, can't explain why. I don't believe it's realistic to make everyone bi. I do however thank Bioware for keeping Kaidan at least straight with no bi past in fem shep world.

Do you know that there was a Femshep / Ashley romance on ME1 right? the lines WERE recorded, can find them on youtube.

[krukow]

Xilizhra wrote...

OneWomanArmy wrote...

Yes everyone should apparently be bi... Are you freaking kidding me? Ashley and Miranda bi?

Forget it Krukow, it's the same reason they use for Kaidan in me1/2. Apparently everyone against a character being suddenly made bi is homophobic. Even if you have an opinion about a character that should not be bi, they will still call you homophobic.

Why develop character/romance resources only to arbitrarily restrict them to one Shepard? DA2 got this far more right.

In any case, why would Ashley or Miranda not be bi, in particular?

Okay, DA2 never got anything right.  Ever.

And you restrict it because you're trying to create real characters, with things like traits, not mushy sex dolls to be used however the character sees fit.  The majority of people are straight, some people are gay, some are bi.  The characters you interact with should reflect this.  When you just turn everyone bi for the sake of fanservice, the characters cease to be real.

I mean, if you just want "characters" for masturbatory fantasy, that's fine.  I like characters that feel real.  And part of real characters is their own defined sexuality, not whatever sexuality I want them to have in any given playthrough.  Cortez and Traynor would be lesser characters if you could make them straight in your playthrough.

[Zjarcal]

OneWomanArmy wrote...
I do however thank Bioware for keeping Kaidan at least straight with no bi past in fem shep world.

Pffft, you say that as if he wasn't actually interested in men too in your "femshep world". He didn't show any interest because he was already in a romance with your femshep. Deep down he sure as hell was also fantasizing about sausage.

Your pretty boy is bi, deal with it.

Modifié par Zjarcal, 12 juillet 2012 - 05:31 .

[The Uncanny]

krukow wrote...

And part of real characters is their own defined sexuality, not whatever sexuality I want them to have in any given playthrough.

Dr Chakwas' sexuality isn't defined yet she feels 'real' enough to me.

[AndreasShepard]

OneWomanArmy wrote...

Kaidan is just half ruined for me... kinda hard to explain but seeing all those pics thrown at me on these forums of Kaidan and male shep well they kinda burn into my mind.... and its not pretty! Miranda and Ashley are just not the types to be into women, can't explain why. I don't believe it's realistic to make everyone bi. I do however thank Bioware for keeping Kaidan at least straight with no bi past in fem shep world.

Seeing Kaidan with femshep doesn't do anything for me but it doens't burn into my mind either.  What someone else does with their game shouldn't have a drastic effect on your own, have a little maturity as opposed to saying "eww that's icky, that character is ruined for me." 

[krukow]

The Uncanny wrote...

krukow wrote...

And part of real characters is their own defined sexuality, not whatever sexuality I want them to have in any given playthrough.

Dr Chakwas' sexuality isn't defined yet she feels 'real' enough to me.

Her sexuality isn't part of the game.  If it was, and I could choose it for her, she would feel like less of a character.

[Mr.House]

OneWomanArmy wrote...

Kaidan is just half ruined for me... kinda hard to explain but seeing all those pics thrown at me on these forums of Kaidan and male shep well they kinda burn into my mind.... and its not pretty! Miranda and Ashley are just not the types to be into women, can't explain why. I don't believe it's realistic to make everyone bi. I do however thank Bioware for keeping Kaidan at least straight with no bi past in fem shep world.

I don't know if I should cry or laugh at this post. You need to get out more and meet people. Also why does Kaidan liking both genders ruin him for you? That's just plain stupid.

[The Uncanny]

krukow wrote...

Her sexuality isn't part of the game.  If it was, and I could choose it for her, she would feel like less of a character.

So sexuality alone defines the credibility or otherwise of a character for you?

[Mr.House]

krukow wrote...

The Uncanny wrote...

krukow wrote...

And part of real characters is their own defined sexuality, not whatever sexuality I want them to have in any given playthrough.

Dr Chakwas' sexuality isn't defined yet she feels 'real' enough to me.

Her sexuality isn't part of the game.  If it was, and I could choose it for her, she would feel like less of a character.

No character's sexuality was ever set in stone, people assumed. Then they get mad they where wrong then say it's OOC/pandering ect when in truth it people assuming.

[Kyuhyun]

OneWomanArmy wrote...

Kaidan is just half ruined for me... kinda hard to explain but seeing all those pics thrown at me on these forums of Kaidan and male shep well they kinda burn into my mind.... and its not pretty! Miranda and Ashley are just not the types to be into women, can't explain why. I don't believe it's realistic to make everyone bi. I do however thank Bioware for keeping Kaidan at least straight with no bi past in fem shep world.

Not the "types" to be into women? Can you please explain to me what TYPE would be into women according to you? And really they burn into your mind and its not pretty??? Oh dear lord why haven't you told us that before!!! Gay people should totally stop being gay/bi and stop being open about it because you don't think it's pretty!!! I just can't with this homophobia. 

[krukow]

The Uncanny wrote...

krukow wrote...

Her sexuality isn't part of the game.  If it was, and I could choose it for her, she would feel like less of a character.

So sexuality alone defines the credibility or otherwise of a character for you?

I've been saying it's a character trait.  A, not the, a.  It's one of many, but it's an important one.  Making it mush decided by the player lessens the character.  It would be like if you could decide wether or not Ashley is close to her family.  That would make Ashley a lesser character because she would no longer be as defined.  She would be mush.

Modifié par krukow, 12 juillet 2012 - 05:41 .

[Mr.House]

krukow wrote...

The Uncanny wrote...

krukow wrote...

Her sexuality isn't part of the game.  If it was, and I could choose it for her, she would feel like less of a character.

So sexuality alone defines the credibility or otherwise of a character for you?

I've been saying it's a character trait.  A, not the, a.  It's one of many, but it's an important one.  Making it mush decided by the player lessens the player.  It would be like if you could decide wether or not Ashley is close to her family.  That would make Ashley a lesser character because she would no longer be as defined.  She would be mush.

Then you must hate Legion, Grunt and Adams.

Also comparing someones sexuality to familly? WHAT:pinched:

Modifié par Mr.House, 12 juillet 2012 - 05:40 .

[Mgamerz]

I prefer my liara to look like this, honestly.

[krukow]

Mr.House wrote...

krukow wrote...

The Uncanny wrote...

krukow wrote...

Her sexuality isn't part of the game.  If it was, and I could choose it for her, she would feel like less of a character.

So sexuality alone defines the credibility or otherwise of a character for you?

I've been saying it's a character trait.  A, not the, a.  It's one of many, but it's an important one.  Making it mush decided by the player lessens the player.  It would be like if you could decide wether or not Ashley is close to her family.  That would make Ashley a lesser character because she would no longer be as defined.  She would be mush.

Then you must hate Legion, Grunt and Adams.

Also comparing someones sexuality to familly? WHAT:pinched:

I compared them because they're defining characteristics that shouldn't be decided for the character by the player.  Learn to read please.

[Mr.House]

Ash's sexuality has yet to be defined.

[The Uncanny]

krukow wrote...

I've been saying it's a character trait.  A, not the, a.  It's one of many, but it's an important one.  Making it mush decided by the player lessens the character.  It would be like if you could decide wether or not Ashley is close to her family.  That would make Ashley a lesser character because she would no longer be as defined.  She would be mush.

So... bisexuals and pansexuals are 'mush'?

[BP93]

ITT: People posting their opinions about the s/s romances in the game or lack thereof and get bashed by others for having that said opinion.

People don't have to like what you like nor do they have to agree with you. Seems like anyone who says something that even comes to a slant against homosexuals nowadays just gets labeled as a homophobe.

Hooray for generalizations!

[Kyuhyun]

BP93 wrote...

ITT: People posting their opinions about the s/s romances in the game or lack thereof and get bashed by others for having that said opinion.

People don't have to like what you like nor do they have to agree with you. Seems like anyone who says something that even comes to a slant against homosexuals nowadays just gets labeled as a homophobe.

Hooray for generalizations!

People can post their opinions and we can disagree with them especially if they are hurtful. 

[krukow]

The Uncanny wrote...

krukow wrote...

I've been saying it's a character trait.  A, not the, a.  It's one of many, but it's an important one.  Making it mush decided by the player lessens the character.  It would be like if you could decide wether or not Ashley is close to her family.  That would make Ashley a lesser character because she would no longer be as defined.  She would be mush.

So... bisexuals and pansexuals are 'mush'?

Not if they're established as such.  Kelly Chambers is great, and lots of people like Liara (though not sure if people count her).  It's mush when it's changed for fanservice.  It's also mush when everyone is made bi, because that just isn't how the real world works.

[BP93]

I know, its what people call an argument. Bashing them for having an opinion however, is not an argument.

[Mr.House]

krukow wrote...

The Uncanny wrote...

krukow wrote...

I've been saying it's a character trait.  A, not the, a.  It's one of many, but it's an important one.  Making it mush decided by the player lessens the character.  It would be like if you could decide wether or not Ashley is close to her family.  That would make Ashley a lesser character because she would no longer be as defined.  She would be mush.

So... bisexuals and pansexuals are 'mush'?

Not if they're established as such.  Kelly Chambers is great, and lots of people like Liara (though not sure if people count her).  It's mush when it's changed for fanservice.  It's also mush when everyone is made bi, because that just isn't how the real world works.

Except Ash and Kaidan where going to be bi.

[The Uncanny]

krukow wrote...

It's also mush when everyone is made bi, because that just isn't how the real world works.

Maybe sexulaity is more fluid in the future?

And surely this isn't the real world. It's a space fantasy in which you battle giant space cockroaches.

[Kyuhyun]

BP93 wrote...

I know, its what people call an argument. Bashing them for having an opinion however, is not an argument.

No one is BASHING them we are simply having a discussion jesus christ