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People Need To Get Over Their Homophobia Of Me2 And Me3


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Fem shep needs more straight options and not bi or lesbian and I am not saying that because I am homophobic, but compared to male shep her choices suck! I don't care if the content of Traynor or Allers is not so much, the vs didn't exactly get treated like royalty.


That's a separate issue. OF COURSE FemShep also needs more f/m options too. No one is arguing otherwise. Especially since of her four f/m romances, one dies and one leaves her for another woman. 


Can you imagine if a pregnant Tali showed up in ME3 with her Quarian boyfriend? BSN joy FOREVER!

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Reposting. Pay attention people. This is realistic sexuality. Not this black and white bull I keep seeing. There is no reason why Ashley couldn't be a 1 or 2.

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OneWomanArmy wrote...

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OneWomanArmy wrote...

Gosh I am tired.... I have been discussing all day long....

The game should still be realistic to some point and no Ashley should stay straight!

If she wasn't straight and bi instead, would that make her a bad person?

I am really puzzled about this. It happened to me in real life. I met this great girl on which I had a crush. Turned out she was lesbian. I had no clue. And, boy, what a homophobe I was at the time. She thought I was important enough to explain me how things go in the real world. I am glad she did. That was more than 30 years ago. And we are still friends. I still blush when I think how stupid I was, because I must have hurt her back in those days.


No of course not, it wouldn't make her a bad person. Have you not read any of my posts? I am not a homophobic, I just don't want to date a bi man but I wouldn't mind a bi or gay friend.


How magnanimous of you. Have you thought about creating a personal ad to find a bi or gay friend? I'm sure they would be knocking each other down for a chance to be your friend.

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Chun Hei wrote...

Siansonea II wrote...

OneWomanArmy wrote...

Fem shep needs more straight options and not bi or lesbian and I am not saying that because I am homophobic, but compared to male shep her choices suck! I don't care if the content of Traynor or Allers is not so much, the vs didn't exactly get treated like royalty.


That's a separate issue. OF COURSE FemShep also needs more f/m options too. No one is arguing otherwise. Especially since of her four f/m romances, one dies and one leaves her for another woman. 


Can you imagine if a pregnant Tali showed up in ME3 with her Quarian boyfriend? BSN joy FOREVER!


I would lol. Most assuredly, I would lol. :lol:

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For the record, I'm not saying the Femshep didn't get screwed over when it came to romances. It was really crappy what they did with Jacob and I think more effort should have been made in other romances. It seems to all fall in line with the ME team's overall treatment of Femshep, which is shoddy at best.

But as soon as someone starts telling me that options should have been taken away in favor of preserving headcanon or to make things more "exclusive" for one gender or the other, that's where I will disconnect.

Modifié par RinjiRenee, 12 juillet 2012 - 09:32 .


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OneWomanArmy wrote...

AngryFrozenWater wrote...

OneWomanArmy wrote...

Gosh I am tired.... I have been discussing all day long....

The game should still be realistic to some point and no Ashley should stay straight!

If she wasn't straight and bi instead, would that make her a bad person?

I am really puzzled about this. It happened to me in real life. I met this great girl on which I had a crush. Turned out she was lesbian. I had no clue. And, boy, what a homophobe I was at the time. She thought I was important enough to explain me how things go in the real world. I am glad she did. That was more than 30 years ago. And we are still friends. I still blush when I think how stupid I was, because I must have hurt her back in those days.


No of course not, it wouldn't make her a bad person. Have you not read any of my posts? I am not a homophobic, I just don't want to date a bi man but I wouldn't mind a bi or gay friend.

If that bi man loves you and goes for you then what is the problem? Are you afraid that means he has to have other relations? I don't get it.

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Siansonea II wrote...

OneWomanArmy wrote...

AngryFrozenWater wrote...

OneWomanArmy wrote...

Gosh I am tired.... I have been discussing all day long....

The game should still be realistic to some point and no Ashley should stay straight!

If she wasn't straight and bi instead, would that make her a bad person?

I am really puzzled about this. It happened to me in real life. I met this great girl on which I had a crush. Turned out she was lesbian. I had no clue. And, boy, what a homophobe I was at the time. She thought I was important enough to explain me how things go in the real world. I am glad she did. That was more than 30 years ago. And we are still friends. I still blush when I think how stupid I was, because I must have hurt her back in those days.


No of course not, it wouldn't make her a bad person. Have you not read any of my posts? I am not a homophobic, I just don't want to date a bi man but I wouldn't mind a bi or gay friend.


How magnanimous of you. Have you thought about creating a personal ad to find a bi or gay friend? I'm sure they would be knocking each other down for a chance to be your friend.


Thank you, that's very sweet of you, you are always so kind!

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Wouldn't it be a little forced if every character was bisexual?


If it has no impact when you're playing as the opposite sex and you don't choose to flirt with them when you're playing as the same sex... no. Why should it?

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Chun Hei wrote...

Siansonea II wrote...

OneWomanArmy wrote...

Fem shep needs more straight options and not bi or lesbian and I am not saying that because I am homophobic, but compared to male shep her choices suck! I don't care if the content of Traynor or Allers is not so much, the vs didn't exactly get treated like royalty.


That's a separate issue. OF COURSE FemShep also needs more f/m options too. No one is arguing otherwise. Especially since of her four f/m romances, one dies and one leaves her for another woman. 


Can you imagine if a pregnant Tali showed up in ME3 with her Quarian boyfriend? BSN joy FOREVER!


Bsn would explode with rage!!!!

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Gay, straight, I just want to see Wrex in drag in future DLC...

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OneWomanArmy wrote...

Chun Hei wrote...

Siansonea II wrote...

OneWomanArmy wrote...

Fem shep needs more straight options and not bi or lesbian and I am not saying that because I am homophobic, but compared to male shep her choices suck! I don't care if the content of Traynor or Allers is not so much, the vs didn't exactly get treated like royalty.


That's a separate issue. OF COURSE FemShep also needs more f/m options too. No one is arguing otherwise. Especially since of her four f/m romances, one dies and one leaves her for another woman. 


Can you imagine if a pregnant Tali showed up in ME3 with her Quarian boyfriend? BSN joy FOREVER!


Bsn would explode with rage!!!!


A fire burning hot enough to pop a million gallons of popcorn. Yummy.

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RinjiRenee wrote...

For the record, I'm not saying the Femshep didn't get screwed over when it came to romances. It was really crappy what they did with Jacob and I think more effort should have been made in other romances. It seems to all fall in line with the ME team's overall treatment of Femshep, which is shoddy at best.

But as soon as someone starts telling me that options should have been taken away in favor of preserving headcanon or to make things more "exclusive" for one gender or the other, that's where I will disconnect.


In my personal opinion, all squadmate romances options should have been open for both genders. More options is good.

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Gay, straight, I just want to see Wrex in drag in future DLC...

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Because when homophobia is not enough... bashing on the T of LGBT is always an accepted option...

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Funny how a thread asking less homophobia only brings more. Romances are such a small part of the games, and yet, it's the msot debated thing! Maybe that's why so few games even have a romance option. You guys should play Harvest Moon.

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Siansonea II wrote...

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You know what? Fem shep doesn't need more bi options, she has enough lesbian choices.


Says you. She doesn't have a trilogy-spanning HUMAN f/f option though. That is an oversight I wish BioWare had addressed. 

So yeah, get over your homophobia lady. You're not winning the Internets today.


Will you let me win tomorrow then??? :-(

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franciscoamell wrote...

You guys should play Harvest Moon.


Or Skyrim. That will get you away from... oh wait!

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Baronesa wrote...

In my personal opinion, all squadmate romances options should have been open for both genders. More options is good.


That's my opinion, too. :wizard: I don't like when people somehow work out in their heads that less options = more betterer.

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Baronesa wrote...

Dragon_Claw wrote...

Gay, straight, I just want to see Wrex in drag in future DLC...

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Because when homophobia is not enough... bashing on the T of LGBT is always an accepted option...


Calm down Baronesa. I´m not bashing anyone. I was just trying to lighten the mood, since the tension in this thread is reaching boiling point.

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Funny how a thread asking less homophobia only brings more. Romances are such a small part of the games, and yet, it's the msot debated thing! Maybe that's why so few games even have a romance option. You guys should play Harvest Moon.


Its also funny how the word "homophobia" can be used so casually. These days everyone is being called a homophobic.

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franciscoamell wrote...

Funny how a thread asking less homophobia only brings more. Romances are such a small part of the games, and yet, it's the msot debated thing! Maybe that's why so few games even have a romance option. You guys should play Harvest Moon.


The thread title is pretty confrontational but this topic does get hot all on its own very easily.

Romances are debated on the BSN because they are a Bioware staple and still comparatively rare in gaming.

And what else is going to be debated on a romance thread except... romances?

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RinjiRenee wrote...

Baronesa wrote...

In my personal opinion, all squadmate romances options should have been open for both genders. More options is good.


That's my opinion, too. :wizard: I don't like when people somehow work out in their heads that less options = more betterer.


Nooooo thanks. I love me my gay options and I believe sexuality is fluid, but it would be immersion breaking for me if everyone swung both ways. I was very happy with what Bioware did with ME3, especially only making one of the virmire survivors bi.

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What ticks me off the most is when something mentions something about not wanting same-sex anything in the game, and continues to say it's ok for him to act and say those things because his friend of a friend is gay and it's cool.

... :/

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Fidget6 wrote...

I love me my gay options and I believe sexuality is fluid, but it would be immersion breaking for me if everyone swung both ways.


Why? If it has no impact on your game then why would it effect your immersion?

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And I don't know about others but mostly I am joking in this thread, if people takes me too seriously that's there problem. I like discussing.