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[Rinji the Bearded]

OneWomanArmy wrote...

You may be right ;-) And female shep was simply made a joke out of in me3 when it came to choices.... I love Kaidan but the rest was just cut out except Garrus (male choices).

I have a feeling Vega might have been an option for her at one point, then the ball was dropped somewhere in development.  Then the whole Jacob thing... oi vey.

[Sundance31us]

OneWomanArmy wrote...
Does the male shep also get the line "are you flirting with me commander" from kaidan at the hospital as the fem shep does? Cause if he does then maybe that would feel uncomfortable.

Yes, but only if you ask about his biotics.

[DevilBeast]

Forbry wrote...

DevilBeast wrote...

Anyway, as for the subject of this thread:
I do remember some complaining about being "forced" into a romance with either Cortez or Traynor just because you were being nice towards them. But since that complaint can be used on the straight romances too (which it has), I don´t think it´s necerssarily homphobic.
But that was some time ago, and even back then it was rather sporadic, so I don´t think it´s as prevalent as you might think it is LiarasShield.

I didn't even invite Kelly for diner, because I was scared it could/would mean it became a romance... (still don't know what happens when you do that, apart from the fact she apparently will take care of your fish, which I would have liked ).
Femshep flirted with Jacob from the get go. Therefore, I barely dared to communicate with him at all...

I think it´s possible to just have dinner with Kelly and not become involved in a romance with her (haven´t tried it myself though). Something about telling her, when she offers to feed your fish after the dinner, that it should only stay with that (feeding the fish).

[DevilBeast]

OneWomanArmy wrote...

Yeah Vega was an option but they decided to remove it, why I will never understand. He was very hated before me3 was released so maybe that's the reason, I just hope they give him back to us.

Hmmm... That would probably explain all the flirtatious dialogue between femShep and Vega. Maybe a leftover from the original romance dialogue??

[rubynorman]

DevilBeast wrote...

Forbry wrote...

DevilBeast wrote...

Anyway, as for the subject of this thread:
I do remember some complaining about being "forced" into a romance with either Cortez or Traynor just because you were being nice towards them. But since that complaint can be used on the straight romances too (which it has), I don´t think it´s necerssarily homphobic.
But that was some time ago, and even back then it was rather sporadic, so I don´t think it´s as prevalent as you might think it is LiarasShield.

I didn't even invite Kelly for diner, because I was scared it could/would mean it became a romance... (still don't know what happens when you do that, apart from the fact she apparently will take care of your fish, which I would have liked ).
Femshep flirted with Jacob from the get go. Therefore, I barely dared to communicate with him at all...

I think it´s possible to just have dinner with Kelly and not become involved in a romance with her (haven´t tried it myself though). Something about telling her, when she offers to feed your fish after the dinner, that it should only stay with that (feeding the fish).

My FemShep had dinner with Kelly but she didn't allow Kelly dance for her and nothing happened in ME3. I'm sure that you are safe to have dinner with Kelly.

Modifié par rubynorman, 09 juillet 2012 - 06:28 .

[Rinji the Bearded]

OneWomanArmy wrote...

And that's where I think Bioware failed cause when Kaidan makes a move on a straight man it could make him a bit uncomfortable when it comes out of nowhere. There should have been an option for male shep to make the move himself instead like with Cortez.

I can't really agree there.  Both Shepards are hit on freely by the opposite sex in previous games.  I don't really feel sorry for the straight male shepard who complains that Kaidan is macking on him when that's been a standard in the game (and  gaming in general) for a long time.  If that change is made to Kaidan, they'd have to take away Vega's flirting with femshep as well, for example.

[Xilizhra]

OneWomanArmy wrote...

But isn't it the first time in the series that a male hits on another male? So when it's not expected and especialy when it's a straight man hitting on you, I can certainly understand why a straight man don't like it.

I was forced into flirting with Jacob, and James moved into rather inappropriate territory in ME3. Straight men can suck it up.

[Rinji the Bearded]

OneWomanArmy wrote...

I don't think you get my point. With Cortez you get a hint so you are prepared but with Kaidan it's hidden in the conversation "biotic" something so it comes out of nowhere, it's stupid when he used to be straight

Edit There should have been an option to hit on him instead for male shep , it was too unexpected.

Aaaand it's completely okay for him to do that to Femshep? 

[Rinji the Bearded]

OneWomanArmy wrote...

Yes cause he used to be straight and they have a past together.

Not all femsheps romanced Kaidan in ME1.  When you start a Femshep in ME2 or ME3 with Kaidan as the VS, it is assumed they didn't have a relationship.

[Sundance31us]

OneWomanArmy wrote...

Yes cause he used to be straight and they have a past together.

In my game (maleShep)...

I didn't interpret Kaidan talking about Rahna as definitive proof that he was straight; it is possible for a gay man to have had a girl friend and to talk about this girl friend w/o sacrificing his sexual orientation. I can also see his formal, courteous and reserve nature preventing him from hitting on maleShepard in ME1.

As a side note: They should have labeled the flirt dialogue option a little better.

[Rinji the Bearded]

Sundance31us wrote...

OneWomanArmy wrote...

Yes cause he used to be straight and they have a past together.

In my game (maleShep)...

I didn't interpret Kaidan talking about Rahna as definitive proof that he was straight; it is possible for a gay man to have had a girl friend and to talk about this girl friend w/o sacrificing his sexual orientation. I can also see his formal, courteous and reserve nature preventing him from hitting on maleShepard in ME1.

As a side note: They should have labeled the flirt dialogue option a little better.

That's how mansheps sort of have to headcanon it anyway, which is good enough for me.

And also yeah, Mass Effect has always been terrible at distinguishing the flirt dialogue from regular dialogue.

[Xilizhra]

And also yeah, Mass Effect has always been terrible at distinguishing the flirt dialogue from regular dialogue.

With the exception of "I want you, Thane." Which wasn't nearly that obvious when actually spoken, and I don't know why people complained.

[Rinji the Bearded]

OneWomanArmy wrote...

But he still used to be straight and its more acceptable when its a female. No offense but I think its obvious that Bioware just copy paste most of fem shep version romance and used it for male shep in last minute for profit.

I highly disagree with that.  I'm not sure why a woman who doesn't appreciate being flirted with just has to put up with it.   There's nothing "more acceptable" about it.

Modifié par RinjiRenee, 09 juillet 2012 - 08:28 .

[Rinji the Bearded]

Xilizhra wrote...

And also yeah, Mass Effect has always been terrible at distinguishing the flirt dialogue from regular dialogue.

With the exception of "I want you, Thane." Which wasn't nearly that obvious when actually spoken, and I don't know why people complained.

I think some of the worst was with manshep and Miranda dialogue in ME2, and femshep and Jacob of course.

[krukow]

RinjiRenee wrote...

OneWomanArmy wrote...

But he still used to be straight and its more acceptable when its a female. No offense but I think its obvious that Bioware just copy paste most of fem shep version romance and used it for male shep in last minute for profit.

I highly disagree with that.  I'm not sure why a woman who doesn't appreciate being flirted with just has to put up with it.   There's nothing "more acceptable" about it.

Edit: I was wrong.

Anyways, as someone pointed out earlier, by Mass Effect time, culture could have changed so that it makes no difference.  Gay dudes might hit on straight dudes, and nobody will bat an eye (except to identify their sexuality.  Cuz Shepard will be looking at the ladies, you sissy boy).  You get the same thing from the writers of Dr Who (Davies and then Moffat) where in the future people just don't care about that stuff anymore.  See: Harkness, Jack. 

I guess the idea is that to us it's a bit of a shock, because we're just not used to it.  Or I completely misrepresented OWA's point(I did, edited), and if I did I apologize.

Modifié par krukow, 09 juillet 2012 - 08:41 .

[Siansonea]

Where da homophobes at? Let me at 'em! 

Modifié par Siansonea II, 09 juillet 2012 - 08:41 .