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Why are Krogan foot soldiers considered a valuable asset in destroying gigantic sentient battlecruisers between 160m to 2km in size?
Rannoch Reaper, and winning conventionally
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#27
Posté 09 juillet 2012 - 07:51
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a Cain is not powerful enough to break through a Reapers Shields/Barrier/Armor.DEATHSCOPE wrote...
Why not?arial wrote...
would not helpDEATHSCOPE wrote...
Issue a Cain missile for every soldier.
and before you say that one on earth, that was not a reaper (it was Reaper tech, but not a Reaper its self), it was a Reaper tech AA gun called a Hades Cannon
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Posté 09 juillet 2012 - 07:51
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Because war assets matter, and EMS is not arbitrary.Finn the Jakey wrote...
Why are Krogan foot soldiers considered a valuable asset in destroying gigantic sentient battlecruisers between 160m to 2km in size?
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Posté 09 juillet 2012 - 07:51
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It was a Reaper Destroyer with a mounted Hades Cannon..arial wrote...
a Cain is not powerful enough to break through a Reapers Shields/Barrier/Armor.DEATHSCOPE wrote...
Why not?arial wrote...
would not helpDEATHSCOPE wrote...
Issue a Cain missile for every soldier.
and before you say that one on earth, that was not a reaper (it was Reaper tech, but not a Reaper its self), it was a Reaper tech AA gun called a Hades Cannon
#30
Posté 09 juillet 2012 - 07:53
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Like I said earlier, Rannoch Reaper and the Hades cannon aren't the best examples of reaper strengths and weaknesses because they are modified to fit the gameplay section, therfore they aren't a good representation.DEATHSCOPE wrote...
It was a Reaper Destroyer with a mounted Hades Cannon..
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Posté 09 juillet 2012 - 07:53
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no it was not, go back and look, it is not even shaped like any Reaper we have seen before, and in the ME3 universe, Reapers only come in two formsDEATHSCOPE wrote...
It was a Reaper Destroyer with a mounted Hades Cannon..arial wrote...
a Cain is not powerful enough to break through a Reapers Shields/Barrier/Armor.DEATHSCOPE wrote...
Why not?arial wrote...
would not helpDEATHSCOPE wrote...
Issue a Cain missile for every soldier.
and before you say that one on earth, that was not a reaper (it was Reaper tech, but not a Reaper its self), it was a Reaper tech AA gun called a Hades Cannon
#32
Posté 09 juillet 2012 - 07:53
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Zardoc wrote...
I only ever remember Hackett telling me the Reapers couldn't be beaten conventionally. Then again, Hackett isn't really a bright light when it comes to tactics, seeing how spectacularly he lost against the Reaper forces, compared to the turians.
In any case, conventional victory would've been possible if BioWare hadn't been married on the idea of a magical Reaper off-switch device they pulled out of their asses.
Anderson says it too.
Obviously conventional victory would have been possible if BioWare decided it to be. They dictate the rules.
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Posté 09 juillet 2012 - 07:54
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For some reason I don't believe you're being serious.D24O wrote...
Because war assets matter, and EMS is not arbitrary.Finn the Jakey wrote...
Why are Krogan foot soldiers considered a valuable asset in destroying gigantic sentient battlecruisers between 160m to 2km in size?
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Posté 09 juillet 2012 - 07:55
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Gooby pls, this is srs bsns.Tealjaker94 wrote...
For some reason I don't believe you're being serious.D24O wrote...
Because war assets matter, and EMS is not arbitrary.Finn the Jakey wrote...
Why are Krogan foot soldiers considered a valuable asset in destroying gigantic sentient battlecruisers between 160m to 2km in size?
#35
Posté 09 juillet 2012 - 07:56
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It's a Reaper destroyer, how do you not know that?arial wrote...
no it was not, go back and look, it is not even shaped like any Reaper we have seen before, and in the ME3 universe, Reapers only come in two formsDEATHSCOPE wrote...
It was a Reaper Destroyer with a mounted Hades Cannon..arial wrote...
a Cain is not powerful enough to break through a Reapers Shields/Barrier/Armor.DEATHSCOPE wrote...
Why not?arial wrote...
would not helpDEATHSCOPE wrote...
Issue a Cain missile for every soldier.
and before you say that one on earth, that was not a reaper (it was Reaper tech, but not a Reaper its self), it was a Reaper tech AA gun called a Hades Cannon
The same kind you kill in Rannoch and Tuchanka.
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Posté 09 juillet 2012 - 07:56
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Well, those were the ones that Shepard did fought. You can't really find any other examples ingame.D24O wrote...
Like I said earlier, Rannoch Reaper and the Hades cannon aren't the best examples of reaper strengths and weaknesses because they are modified to fit the gameplay section, therfore they aren't a good representation.DEATHSCOPE wrote...
It was a Reaper Destroyer with a mounted Hades Cannon..
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Posté 09 juillet 2012 - 07:58
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go back and play through the game, it is NEVER refered to as a Reaper, and only refered to as a Hades Cannon, this is because it is just an AA gun using Reaper tech.Khajiit Jzargo wrote...
It's a Reaper destroyer, how do you not know that?arial wrote...
no it was not, go back and look, it is not even shaped like any Reaper we have seen before, and in the ME3 universe, Reapers only come in two formsDEATHSCOPE wrote...
It was a Reaper Destroyer with a mounted Hades Cannon..arial wrote...
a Cain is not powerful enough to break through a Reapers Shields/Barrier/Armor.DEATHSCOPE wrote...
Why not?arial wrote...
would not helpDEATHSCOPE wrote...
Issue a Cain missile for every soldier.
and before you say that one on earth, that was not a reaper (it was Reaper tech, but not a Reaper its self), it was a Reaper tech AA gun called a Hades Cannon
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Posté 09 juillet 2012 - 07:58
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Well you have the final fleet cutscene and codex to extrapolate info from. But I'm just trying to point out that these sections aren't neccicaraly consistent with the lore because they need it to work for a gameplay section.DEATHSCOPE wrote...
Well, those were the ones that Shepard did fought. You can't really find any other examples ingame.D24O wrote...
Like I said earlier, Rannoch Reaper and the Hades cannon aren't the best examples of reaper strengths and weaknesses because they are modified to fit the gameplay section, therfore they aren't a good representation.DEATHSCOPE wrote...
It was a Reaper Destroyer with a mounted Hades Cannon..
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Posté 09 juillet 2012 - 07:58
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Nope, it was a Hades cannon. In any case, I question the validity of any scene that involves Cain shots that a) can change trajectory andKhajiit Jzargo wrote...
It's a Reaper destroyer, how do you not know that?arial wrote...
no it was not, go back and look, it is not even shaped like any Reaper we have seen before, and in the ME3 universe, Reapers only come in two formsDEATHSCOPE wrote...
It was a Reaper Destroyer with a mounted Hades Cannon..arial wrote...
a Cain is not powerful enough to break through a Reapers Shields/Barrier/Armor.DEATHSCOPE wrote...
Why not?arial wrote...
would not helpDEATHSCOPE wrote...
Issue a Cain missile for every soldier.
and before you say that one on earth, that was not a reaper (it was Reaper tech, but not a Reaper its self), it was a Reaper tech AA gun called a Hades Cannon
are visible to the naked eye.
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Posté 09 juillet 2012 - 07:58
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Funny, if they had brought a cain to Tuchanka or Rannoch, they would have killed those with no problems.DEATHSCOPE wrote...
Well, those were the ones that Shepard did fought. You can't really find any other examples ingame.D24O wrote...
Like I said earlier, Rannoch Reaper and the Hades cannon aren't the best examples of reaper strengths and weaknesses because they are modified to fit the gameplay section, therfore they aren't a good representation.DEATHSCOPE wrote...
It was a Reaper Destroyer with a mounted Hades Cannon..
#41
Posté 09 juillet 2012 - 07:59
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http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/DestroyerSgt Stryker wrote...
Nope, it was a Hades cannon. In any case, I question the validity of any scene that involves Cain shots that a) can change trajectory andKhajiit Jzargo wrote...
It's a Reaper destroyer, how do you not know that?arial wrote...
no it was not, go back and look, it is not even shaped like any Reaper we have seen before, and in the ME3 universe, Reapers only come in two formsDEATHSCOPE wrote...
It was a Reaper Destroyer with a mounted Hades Cannon..arial wrote...
a Cain is not powerful enough to break through a Reapers Shields/Barrier/Armor.DEATHSCOPE wrote...
Why not?arial wrote...
would not helpDEATHSCOPE wrote...
Issue a Cain missile for every soldier.
and before you say that one on earth, that was not a reaper (it was Reaper tech, but not a Reaper its self), it was a Reaper tech AA gun called a Hades Cannon
Read it.
encounters.
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#42
Posté 09 juillet 2012 - 08:00
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The wiki does say it's a gun mounted on a Reaper destroyer. However, if we assume the wiki is correct(which is far from assured), it's entirely possible that the Hades Cannon requires quite a bit of power to operate, considerably weakening its kinetic barriers.
Modifié par Tealjaker94, 09 juillet 2012 - 08:04 .
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Posté 09 juillet 2012 - 08:01
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Yeah I know, but again, are we going off on the codex or by what we witness? Well anyway, more speculations for everybody!D24O wrote...
Well you have the final fleet cutscene and codex to extrapolate info from. But I'm just trying to point out that these sections aren't neccicaraly consistent with the lore because they need it to work for a gameplay section.DEATHSCOPE wrote...
Well, those were the ones that Shepard did fought. You can't really find any other examples ingame.D24O wrote...
Like I said earlier, Rannoch Reaper and the Hades cannon aren't the best examples of reaper strengths and weaknesses because they are modified to fit the gameplay section, therfore they aren't a good representation.DEATHSCOPE wrote...
It was a Reaper Destroyer with a mounted Hades Cannon..
#44
Posté 09 juillet 2012 - 08:01
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Fan-made wiki.Khajiit Jzargo wrote...
http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/DestroyerSgt Stryker wrote...
Nope, it was a Hades cannon. In any case, I question the validity of any scene that involves Cain shots that a) can change trajectory andKhajiit Jzargo wrote...
It's a Reaper destroyer, how do you not know that?arial wrote...
no it was not, go back and look, it is not even shaped like any Reaper we have seen before, and in the ME3 universe, Reapers only come in two formsDEATHSCOPE wrote...
It was a Reaper Destroyer with a mounted Hades Cannon..arial wrote...
a Cain is not powerful enough to break through a Reapers Shields/Barrier/Armor.DEATHSCOPE wrote...
Why not?arial wrote...
would not helpDEATHSCOPE wrote...
Issue a Cain missile for every soldier.
and before you say that one on earth, that was not a reaper (it was Reaper tech, but not a Reaper its self), it was a Reaper tech AA gun called a Hades Cannon
Read it.
encounters.
Unofficial source.
Doesn't count.
#45
Posté 09 juillet 2012 - 08:02
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Wikis are not a valid source of information (as they will tell you in University), as anyone can edit them to support there point (as well as they are writen by fans which are often misinformed). I could just as easily go on the ME wiki and change it so it says Miranda is a trans-sexual, that does not make it trueKhajiit Jzargo wrote...
http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/DestroyerSgt Stryker wrote...
Nope, it was a Hades cannon. In any case, I question the validity of any scene that involves Cain shots that a) can change trajectory andKhajiit Jzargo wrote...
It's a Reaper destroyer, how do you not know that?arial wrote...
no it was not, go back and look, it is not even shaped like any Reaper we have seen before, and in the ME3 universe, Reapers only come in two formsDEATHSCOPE wrote...
It was a Reaper Destroyer with a mounted Hades Cannon..arial wrote...
a Cain is not powerful enough to break through a Reapers Shields/Barrier/Armor.DEATHSCOPE wrote...
Why not?arial wrote...
would not helpDEATHSCOPE wrote...
Issue a Cain missile for every soldier.
and before you say that one on earth, that was not a reaper (it was Reaper tech, but not a Reaper its self), it was a Reaper tech AA gun called a Hades Cannon
Read it.
encounters.
#46
Posté 09 juillet 2012 - 08:02
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Finn the Jakey wrote...
Why are Krogan foot soldiers considered a valuable asset in destroying gigantic sentient battlecruisers between 160m to 2km in size?
Artistic integrity
#47
Posté 09 juillet 2012 - 08:02
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thisSgt Stryker wrote...
Fan-made wiki.Khajiit Jzargo wrote...
http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/DestroyerSgt Stryker wrote...
Nope, it was a Hades cannon. In any case, I question the validity of any scene that involves Cain shots that a) can change trajectory andKhajiit Jzargo wrote...
It's a Reaper destroyer, how do you not know that?arial wrote...
no it was not, go back and look, it is not even shaped like any Reaper we have seen before, and in the ME3 universe, Reapers only come in two formsDEATHSCOPE wrote...
It was a Reaper Destroyer with a mounted Hades Cannon..arial wrote...
a Cain is not powerful enough to break through a Reapers Shields/Barrier/Armor.DEATHSCOPE wrote...
Why not?arial wrote...
would not helpDEATHSCOPE wrote...
Issue a Cain missile for every soldier.
and before you say that one on earth, that was not a reaper (it was Reaper tech, but not a Reaper its self), it was a Reaper tech AA gun called a Hades Cannon
Read it.
encounters.
Unofficial source.
Doesn't count.
#48
Posté 09 juillet 2012 - 08:03
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What baffles me is why they didn't mass produce them? Where are all the heavy weapons stockpiled?Khajiit Jzargo wrote...
Funny, if they had brought a cain to Tuchanka or Rannoch, they would have killed those with no problems.DEATHSCOPE wrote...
Well, those were the ones that Shepard did fought. You can't really find any other examples ingame.D24O wrote...
Like I said earlier, Rannoch Reaper and the Hades cannon aren't the best examples of reaper strengths and weaknesses because they are modified to fit the gameplay section, therfore they aren't a good representation.DEATHSCOPE wrote...
It was a Reaper Destroyer with a mounted Hades Cannon..
#49
Posté 09 juillet 2012 - 08:04
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I suppose that was the point. Writers seem to want to force us into using the Crucible, so they keep telling us we can't win without it, and they don't show many instances of our fleets fighting, only reports in the codex.DEATHSCOPE wrote...
Yeah I know, but again, are we going off on the codex or by what we witness? Well anyway, more speculations for everybody!
#50
Posté 09 juillet 2012 - 08:04
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[quote]Sgt Stryker wrote...
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Fan-made wiki.
Unofficial source.
Doesn't count.[/quote]99% of the time it's right, please, don't be ignorant.
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Fan-made wiki.
Unofficial source.
Doesn't count.[/quote]99% of the time it's right, please, don't be ignorant.
