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Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

DEATHSCOPE wrote...

Jamie9 wrote...

I've tweeted Mr. Gamble. If I get a response, I'll post it.

And now we wait. Who's right and who's wrong? We don't know.. taking all bets!

Honestly, whoever is right, it can still be argued because it wouldn't be the first time that BW doesn't know it's own game.
And no, for anyone who thinks I'm writing this because I myself think I'm wrong is incorrect, I'm  just stating facts, Like how Jess said that EDI wasn't made out of Reaper tech.


No, you're right. You can't treat Tweets as gospel.

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wantedman dan wrote...

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I actually tried to take it seriously telling myself "This will somehow end well, BW won't disappoint me"
Man! Was I wrong.


I was thinking that during my second playthrough.

Then I became the cynical bastard I am today.

Haha! same man. It's like the first thing they thought off when making the story for the game, "This game must end with Deux Ex endings!"

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Sgt Stryker wrote...

It sounds to me that the notion of "Hades Cannon = Destroyer with a big gun" is little more than a brain bug. Somebody at some point noticed that the two vehicles share a similar chassis, and therefore concluded that a Hades Cannon is a special type of Reaper, despite no dialogue or Codex entries from the game itself to suggest this is true. That same somebody decided to contribute the wiki. This misconception has unfortunately crept into the collective consciousness of ME fans, and that's the way the cookie crumbles.

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arial wrote...

Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

arial wrote...

anyways Khajiit, I am done arguing with you, you either know you are wrong and arguing for sake of arguing, or you are some kid who honestly thinks because someone uses a website to get information that is automatically makes that information factual (which it does not)

so, Good Day Sir,

I have no reason to be think I'm wrong. And again you keep implying that it's just some website, when it's the best reliable source about anything Mass Effect related. Obviously it doesn't make it 100% percent factual, but it's better than your providing which is just shouting "Your wrong!" over and over.

Good day Madam or sir (Don't know)
I sent Michael a tweet, if he responds I'll let you know.

im not just saying "your wrong", ive provided the scene for you to go play, its only refered to as a Hades Cannon. and it may look slightly like a reaper, but no more then those Reaper artifacts you recover on the N7 mission.

You did, and then I responded by explaining to you what I saw. Then, when I told you what I saw, you pulled out "Your wrong" card on me and told me to have a good day apparently because you didn't have more adequate proof in my opinion.

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Perhaps we better wait for an official response before things get too personal.

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arial wrote...

Sgt Stryker wrote...

It sounds to me that the notion of "Hades Cannon = Destroyer with a big gun" is little more than a brain bug. Somebody at some point noticed that the two vehicles share a similar chassis, and therefore concluded that a Hades Cannon is a special type of Reaper, despite no dialogue or Codex entries from the game itself to suggest this is true. That same somebody decided to contribute the wiki. This misconception has unfortunately crept into the collective consciousness of ME fans, and that's the way the cookie crumbles.

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"I'm right because look at my pretty link" is not an argument.

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Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

Haha! same man. It's like the first thing they thought off when making the story for the game, "This game must end with Deux Ex endings!"


Disgraceful, truly.

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wantedman dan wrote...

arial wrote...

Sgt Stryker wrote...

It sounds to me that the notion of "Hades Cannon = Destroyer with a big gun" is little more than a brain bug. Somebody at some point noticed that the two vehicles share a similar chassis, and therefore concluded that a Hades Cannon is a special type of Reaper, despite no dialogue or Codex entries from the game itself to suggest this is true. That same somebody decided to contribute the wiki. This misconception has unfortunately crept into the collective consciousness of ME fans, and that's the way the cookie crumbles.

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"I'm right because look at my pretty link" is not an argument.

Nah, it's only an argument if that pretty link leads to an unofficial fan-made wiki. :o

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wantedman dan wrote...

arial wrote...

Sgt Stryker wrote...

It sounds to me that the notion of "Hades Cannon = Destroyer with a big gun" is little more than a brain bug. Somebody at some point noticed that the two vehicles share a similar chassis, and therefore concluded that a Hades Cannon is a special type of Reaper, despite no dialogue or Codex entries from the game itself to suggest this is true. That same somebody decided to contribute the wiki. This misconception has unfortunately crept into the collective consciousness of ME fans, and that's the way the cookie crumbles.

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"I'm right because look at my pretty link" is not an argument.

did you even read his whole post?

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Jamie9 wrote...

Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

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Jamie9 wrote...

I've tweeted Mr. Gamble. If I get a response, I'll post it.

And now we wait. Who's right and who's wrong? We don't know.. taking all bets!

Honestly, whoever is right, it can still be argued because it wouldn't be the first time that BW doesn't know it's own game.
And no, for anyone who thinks I'm writing this because I myself think I'm wrong is incorrect, I'm  just stating facts, Like how Jess said that EDI wasn't made out of Reaper tech.


No, you're right. You can't treat Tweets as gospel.

But with it, we probably can get on with the discussion of winning conventionally or not. Right now I'm just watching all the ME EC endings from the other thread while waiting. :P

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Sgt Stryker wrote...

It sounds to me that the notion of "Hades Cannon = Destroyer with a big gun" is little more than a brain bug. Somebody at some point noticed that the two vehicles share a similar chassis, and therefore concluded that a Hades Cannon is a special type of Reaper, despite no dialogue or Codex entries from the game itself to suggest this is true. That same somebody decided to contribute the wiki. This misconception has unfortunately crept into the collective consciousness of ME fans, and that's the way the cookie crumbles.

So your saying that we as Mass Effect fans see as Reaper Destroyers and Hades cannons are actually the same thing? Because that's what I read, and that's absurd. But yet again, I've been awake for 35 hours.

Modifié par Khajiit Jzargo, 09 juillet 2012 - 08:56 .


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Sgt Stryker wrote...

wantedman dan wrote...

arial wrote...

Sgt Stryker wrote...

It sounds to me that the notion of "Hades Cannon = Destroyer with a big gun" is little more than a brain bug. Somebody at some point noticed that the two vehicles share a similar chassis, and therefore concluded that a Hades Cannon is a special type of Reaper, despite no dialogue or Codex entries from the game itself to suggest this is true. That same somebody decided to contribute the wiki. This misconception has unfortunately crept into the collective consciousness of ME fans, and that's the way the cookie crumbles.

this


"I'm right because look at my pretty link" is not an argument.

Nah, it's only an argument if that pretty link leads to an unofficial fan-made wiki. :o



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Sgt Stryker wrote...

Nah, it's only an argument if that pretty link leads to an unofficial fan-made wiki. [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/w00t.png[/smilie]


Way to miss the point entirely.


arial wrote...

did you even read his whole post?


I did. Hence why I mocked it in such a manner. Try to keep up, Arial.

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arial wrote...

Sgt Stryker wrote...

wantedman dan wrote...

arial wrote...

Sgt Stryker wrote...

It sounds to me that the notion of "Hades Cannon = Destroyer with a big gun" is little more than a brain bug. Somebody at some point noticed that the two vehicles share a similar chassis, and therefore concluded that a Hades Cannon is a special type of Reaper, despite no dialogue or Codex entries from the game itself to suggest this is true. That same somebody decided to contribute the wiki. This misconception has unfortunately crept into the collective consciousness of ME fans, and that's the way the cookie crumbles.

this


"I'm right because look at my pretty link" is not an argument.

Nah, it's only an argument if that pretty link leads to an unofficial fan-made wiki. :o


Too bad that wiki is the best source of information available, therefore, it's actually credible. :wizard:

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Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

arial wrote...

Sgt Stryker wrote...

wantedman dan wrote...

arial wrote...

Sgt Stryker wrote...

It sounds to me that the notion of "Hades Cannon = Destroyer with a big gun" is little more than a brain bug. Somebody at some point noticed that the two vehicles share a similar chassis, and therefore concluded that a Hades Cannon is a special type of Reaper, despite no dialogue or Codex entries from the game itself to suggest this is true. That same somebody decided to contribute the wiki. This misconception has unfortunately crept into the collective consciousness of ME fans, and that's the way the cookie crumbles.

this


"I'm right because look at my pretty link" is not an argument.

Nah, it's only an argument if that pretty link leads to an unofficial fan-made wiki. :o


Too bad that wiki is the best source of information available, therefore, it's actually credible. :wizard:



you keep saying this, but its not true.

therefore I will ask you "evidence"?

just because people rely on a website for information, does not automatically make that information credible. seriously its not hard to understand.

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Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

arial wrote...

Sgt Stryker wrote...

wantedman dan wrote...

arial wrote...

Sgt Stryker wrote...

It sounds to me that the notion of "Hades Cannon = Destroyer with a big gun" is little more than a brain bug. Somebody at some point noticed that the two vehicles share a similar chassis, and therefore concluded that a Hades Cannon is a special type of Reaper, despite no dialogue or Codex entries from the game itself to suggest this is true. That same somebody decided to contribute the wiki. This misconception has unfortunately crept into the collective consciousness of ME fans, and that's the way the cookie crumbles.

this


"I'm right because look at my pretty link" is not an argument.

Nah, it's only an argument if that pretty link leads to an unofficial fan-made wiki. :o


Too bad that wiki is the best source of information available, therefore, it's actually credible. :wizard:

Nope, the best sources of information are the games themselves. They are primary sources. Everything else is a secondary source. Since the wiki is written by the fans, then it is subject to the interpretations (and misinterpretations) of the fanbase.

Modifié par Sgt Stryker, 09 juillet 2012 - 09:04 .


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It's starting to look like Ancient Egypt in here.

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DEATHSCOPE wrote...
But with it, we probably can get on with the discussion of winning conventionally or not. Right now I'm just watching all the ME EC endings from the other thread while waiting. :P


Yeah. I'm just saying that we can't take it as gospel, as Twitter isn't an official official source. ;)

Despite my main not picking it, I really like the EC Control ending.

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Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

Sgt Stryker wrote...

It sounds to me that the notion of "Hades Cannon = Destroyer with a big gun" is little more than a brain bug. Somebody at some point noticed that the two vehicles share a similar chassis, and therefore concluded that a Hades Cannon is a special type of Reaper, despite no dialogue or Codex entries from the game itself to suggest this is true. That same somebody decided to contribute the wiki. This misconception has unfortunately crept into the collective consciousness of ME fans, and that's the way the cookie crumbles.

So your saying that we as Mass Effect fans see as Reaper Destroyers and Hades cannons are actually the same thing? Because that's what I read, and that's absurd. But yet again, I've been awake for 35 hours.

Isn't that essentially what you're saying, when you say that Cains can take out Destroyers just as easily as they can Hades Cannons?

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arial wrote...



therefore I will ask you "evidence"?

just because people rely on a website for information, does not automatically make that information credible. seriously its not hard to understand.

Are you seeing what your writing? and it's not just a few people, again it's mostly everyone.

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Sgt Stryker wrote...

Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

Sgt Stryker wrote...

It sounds to me that the notion of "Hades Cannon = Destroyer with a big gun" is little more than a brain bug. Somebody at some point noticed that the two vehicles share a similar chassis, and therefore concluded that a Hades Cannon is a special type of Reaper, despite no dialogue or Codex entries from the game itself to suggest this is true. That same somebody decided to contribute the wiki. This misconception has unfortunately crept into the collective consciousness of ME fans, and that's the way the cookie crumbles.

So your saying that we as Mass Effect fans see as Reaper Destroyers and Hades cannons are actually the same thing? Because that's what I read, and that's absurd. But yet again, I've been awake for 35 hours.

Isn't that essentially what you're saying, when you say that Cains can take out Destroyers just as easily as they can Hades Cannons?

I do agree with that but that wasn't what I was saying. I'm arguing with Arial that Shepard took down a Destroyer with a cain, but he/she dissagress with me.

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Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

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therefore I will ask you "evidence"?

just because people rely on a website for information, does not automatically make that information credible. seriously its not hard to understand.

Are you seeing what your writing? and it's not just a few people, again it's mostly everyone.

Sorry to interject, but I think this is kind of a non issue. I think that it was made vunerable for gameplay purposes, which superceded the lore, or at the very least, as Teal said, being on earth the machine was weaker because it had to reduce its mass.

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One thing all the whiners forget about the rannoch reaper is that reapers take a huge hit to their barriers in order to move and function within an atmosphere.

If that reaper were in the atmosphere it probably could have, along with the geth fighters, taken out the quarian fleet easily

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Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

arial wrote...



therefore I will ask you "evidence"?

just because people rely on a website for information, does not automatically make that information credible. seriously its not hard to understand.

Are you seeing what your writing? and it's not just a few people, again it's mostly everyone.

yes I see what Im typing, a WIKI is writen by fans, fans can be mistaken. it is likely a mistaken fan wrote that article, and people like you who believe whatever they read immediately thought it was true. 

Anyways, im being called into work to fix a printer, Im done, have a good evenin crazy dude whos arguments are all based on a website anyone can change (which just for refrence, only makes you sound crazier)

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D24O wrote...

Sorry to interject, but I think this is kind of a non issue. I think that it was made vunerable for gameplay purposes, which superceded the lore, or at the very least, as Teal said, being on earth the machine was weaker because it had to reduce its mass.


I included that in my Tweet to Mr. Gamble. I asked if it was a regular Reaper Destroyer, a "Hades Cannon", or if it was defeated so easily for gameplay convenience.

:D

Modifié par Jamie9, 09 juillet 2012 - 09:10 .