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[D24O]

Vikali wrote...

Who... even gives a damn what the thing was? It was a reaper THING. And if a million soldiers were running around with cains, there would be a lot of other dead soldiers. Just because you and your team have player/plot armor when one of those goes off, doesn't mean it'd be wise to stick in everyone's hand.

Because we must kil spoderman.

[Khajiit Jzargo]

arial

Wait do you think a Hades cannon is a reaper? No!!!!. The Hades cannon is a separate unit, like a weapon. The Destroyer mounts a the Hades cannon on to itself, but the two are still separate units. Therefore, what your classifying as a "Hades cannon" is a destroyer.

Modifié par Khajiit Jzargo, 09 juillet 2012 - 09:52 .

[Tealjaker94]

D24O wrote...

Vikali wrote...

Who... even gives a damn what the thing was? It was a reaper THING. And if a million soldiers were running around with cains, there would be a lot of other dead soldiers. Just because you and your team have player/plot armor when one of those goes off, doesn't mean it'd be wise to stick in everyone's hand.

Because we must kil spoderman.

Modifié par Tealjaker94, 09 juillet 2012 - 09:50 .

[Jamie9]

Sgt Stryker wrote...

Show me where this happens, and I'll shut up.

This should be rather obvious.

The Hades Cannon was destroyed by a Cain.

The Reaper Destroyer required TWO Thanix missles to destroy.

[D24O]

Tealjaker94 wrote...

D24O wrote...

Vikali wrote...

Who... even gives a damn what the thing was? It was a reaper THING. And if a million soldiers were running around with cains, there would be a lot of other dead soldiers. Just because you and your team have player/plot armor when one of those goes off, doesn't mean it'd be wise to stick in everyone's hand.

Because we must kil spoderman.

It's simple. We kill the spoderman.

https://encrypted-tbn2.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSFtC1tTAbTQcDyX9U50TDtCFy5tSoJF8Ova1blQ8_Pt4cQTgzoEQ 

Modifié par D24O, 09 juillet 2012 - 09:51 .

[Apollo-XL5]

There are similarities, but that is it, it doesnt have the added armor that the destroyer has, so a cain would not be able to take it down.

[Apollo-XL5]

Tealjaker94 wrote...

D24O wrote...

Vikali wrote...

Who... even gives a damn what the thing was? It was a reaper THING. And if a million soldiers were running around with cains, there would be a lot of other dead soldiers. Just because you and your team have player/plot armor when one of those goes off, doesn't mean it'd be wise to stick in everyone's hand.

Because we must kil spoderman.

If it is so easy, why havent you done it?

[DEATHSCOPE]

Apollo-XL5 wrote...

There are similarities, but that is it, it doesnt have the added armor that the destroyer has, so a cain would not be able to take it down.

If one doesn't kill it, fire some more.

[DEATHSCOPE]

Apollo-XL5 wrote...

Tealjaker94 wrote...

D24O wrote...

Vikali wrote...

Who... even gives a damn what the thing was? It was a reaper THING. And if a million soldiers were running around with cains, there would be a lot of other dead soldiers. Just because you and your team have player/plot armor when one of those goes off, doesn't mean it'd be wise to stick in everyone's hand.

Because we must kil spoderman.

If it is so easy, why havent you done it?

 

[Sgt Stryker]

Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

arial wrote...

Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

arial wrote...

Pitznik wrote...

Hades Cannon is referred in game as "Hades Cannon" or even "turret". While it shares some design with Reaper Destroyer, it also has differences. If game itself doesn't confirm what wiki says, wiki is most likely wrong. We have only visual data, everything else is just an interpretation.

It's a destroyer with a Hades cannon mounted on it, This doesn't change anything.

you are obviously trolling then, they have the same base and nothing else. they are never refered to as Reapers, they are refered to as Hades Cannons (or turrets).

seriously, we've proven you wrong, so just swallow your pride and and admit you were mistaken

It honestly looks to me like a Destroyer mounted on a Hades cannon, look at it when you kill it, it gives you a good view.

All I see is a Hades cannon mounted on the legs of a Destroyer. That doesn't necessarily mean they have the same degree of protection.

[Apollo-XL5]

Jamie9 wrote...

Sgt Stryker wrote...

Show me where this happens, and I'll shut up.

This should be rather obvious.

The Hades Cannon was destroyed by a Cain.

The Reaper Destroyer required TWO Thanix missles to destroy.

Thats because it was a hades cannon and not a destroyer.
The cannon did not have the bulit in armor or extra weapons of the destroyer which is why it is easier to kill.
God dammit!

[D24O]

Apollo-XL5 wrote...

If it is so easy, why havent you done it?

Gooby pls

[Apollo-XL5]

DEATHSCOPE wrote...

Apollo-XL5 wrote...

Tealjaker94 wrote...

D24O wrote...

Vikali wrote...

Who... even gives a damn what the thing was? It was a reaper THING. And if a million soldiers were running around with cains, there would be a lot of other dead soldiers. Just because you and your team have player/plot armor when one of those goes off, doesn't mean it'd be wise to stick in everyone's hand.

Because we must kil spoderman.

If it is so easy, why havent you done it?

 

What do you want?

[LaughingDragon]

Tealjaker94 wrote...

LaughingDragon wrote...

Brakensiek wrote...

LaughingDragon wrote...

Assuming your count is accurate - 125 dreadnoughts - that means 31 reaper capital ships can be destroyed PER VOLLEY. 

And the dreadnought count doesn't factor in non-dreadnought class warships. 

This doesn't count Rachni fleet (which there should have been), it doesn't count mercenary ships, or cerberus vessels, it doesn't include special geth ships (like that ridiculously powerful dreadnought at rannoch)

The dreadnought count that was listed to you is the official count before the Reaper invasion.  How many dreadnoughts you think actually made it to the battle?  Not that many I suspect.  

a united fleet of dreadnoughts, with the support of the lesser ships, could jump into a system controlled by a few reapers and overwhelm them. The reapers are spread thin trying to control the entire galaxy in all the major clusters. The reapers aren't organized into a united fleet.

So the galactic resistance could leverage gorilla tactics, hit and run system by system and take down reaper ships.

What about reapers that are planetside on the ground? Aren't those extremely vulnerable like that? Seems like many of them are sitting on the ground harvesting and could get blown away like that.

First of all it's guerilla tactics. A gorilla is a large primate. 
Second, guerilla tactics are effective when you can use small units that are more mobile than your adversary. A fleet of dreadnoughts is hardly small and it's canon that the Reapers are much faster than us. You try this tactic and you're just making it easier for the Reapers to wipe you out in one fell swoop.

Yeah Guerilla, my bad. Not the hairy primate type.

[Khajiit Jzargo]

Sgt Stryker wrote...
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I'm going to paste the same thing I wrote to Arial

Wait do you think a Hades cannon is a reaper? No!!!!. The Hades cannon is a separate unit, like a weapon. The Destroyer mounts a the Hades cannon on to itself, but the two are still separate units. Therefore, what your classifying as a "Hades cannon" is a destroyer.

[arial]

Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

arial

Wait do you think a Hades cannon is a reaper? No!!!!. The Hades cannon is a separate unit, like a weapon. The Destroyer mounts a the Hades cannon on to itself, but the two are still separate units. Therefore, what your classifying as a "Hades cannon" is a destroyer.

source?

[Tealjaker94]

Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

Sgt Stryker wrote...
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I'm going to paste the same thing I wrote to Arial

Wait do you think a Hades cannon is a reaper? No!!!!. The Hades cannon is a separate unit, like a weapon. The Destroyer mounts a the Hades cannon on to itself, but the two are still separate units. Therefore, what your classifying as a "Hades cannon" is a destroyer.

The power draw on a Hades Cannon is probably enormous. It's quite reasonable to assume it would not be able to maintain its kinetic barriers due to the power requirements.

[Apollo-XL5]

Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

Sgt Stryker wrote...
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I'm going to paste the same thing I wrote to Arial

Wait do you think a Hades cannon is a reaper? No!!!!. The Hades cannon is a separate unit, like a weapon. The Destroyer mounts a the Hades cannon on to itself, but the two are still separate units. Therefore, what your classifying as a "Hades cannon" is a destroyer.

It clearly isnt, it has SOME similarities to a destroyer, but it is not a destroyer.  I believe that it is just a anti air defence platform that the reapers drop off to protect their perimeter.  They dont have the self awareness that the reapers themselves do.

[Sgt Stryker]

Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

Sgt Stryker wrote...
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I'm going to paste the same thing I wrote to Arial

Wait do you think a Hades cannon is a reaper? No!!!!. The Hades cannon is a separate unit, like a weapon. The Destroyer mounts a the Hades cannon on to itself, but the two are still separate units. Therefore, what your classifying as a "Hades cannon" is a destroyer.

Even if that's true (and I do not think it is), there is no reason to believe the two should have the same armor and kinetic barrier strength.

There is actually a real-life precedent to this. Many tanks and SP's (self-propelled guns) share a common chassis, but have different thicknesses of armor plating, especially in the turret/gun housing.

Modifié par Sgt Stryker, 09 juillet 2012 - 10:02 .

[Khajiit Jzargo]

arial wrote...

Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

arial

Wait do you think a Hades cannon is a reaper? No!!!!. The Hades cannon is a separate unit, like a weapon. The Destroyer mounts a the Hades cannon on to itself, but the two are still separate units. Therefore, what your classifying as a "Hades cannon" is a destroyer.

source?

Common sense.
Well you even admitted it was anti-aircraft weapon, and the wiki that your going dismiss as actual proof. but honestly, i though this was common sense. It's a weapon, not an actual reaper.
Swallow your pride, just admit it.

http://masseffect.wi...ki/Hades_Cannon

Modifié par Khajiit Jzargo, 09 juillet 2012 - 10:02 .

[LaughingDragon]

Whatever the specific details are, if there actually is no way to defeat the reapers, then I can accept that but that means everyone in the ME universe dies and is harvested.

The concept of a magic device that kills reapers at the push of a button sitting on mars is the most retarded idea I've ever heard.

[Brakensiek]

The Hades Cannon Reaper obviously is a different variant as it is missing it's main spinal cannon. Whatever it is it was made after the occupation of Earth in order to repel any air assaults, possibly even orbital assaults. The Hades Cannon may not even use kinetic barriers since it's purpose is not space combat and instead diverts all power to it's cannon.

Modifié par Brakensiek, 09 juillet 2012 - 10:05 .

[Khajiit Jzargo]

Sgt Stryker wrote...

Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

Sgt Stryker wrote...
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I'm going to paste the same thing I wrote to Arial

Wait do you think a Hades cannon is a reaper? No!!!!. The Hades cannon is a separate unit, like a weapon. The Destroyer mounts a the Hades cannon on to itself, but the two are still separate units. Therefore, what your classifying as a "Hades cannon" is a destroyer.

Even if that's true (and I do not think it is), there is no reason to believe the two should have the same armor and kinetic barrier strength.

There is actually a real-life precedent to this. Many tanks and SP's (self-propelled guns) share a common chassis, but have different thicknesses of armor plating, especially in the turret/gun housing.

You still don't get the point.
Hades cannon is a weapon that is mounted on a destroyer. A "hades cannon" is not a Reaper variant, It's a weapon.

[arial]

Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

arial wrote...

Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

arial

Wait do you think a Hades cannon is a reaper? No!!!!. The Hades cannon is a separate unit, like a weapon. The Destroyer mounts a the Hades cannon on to itself, but the two are still separate units. Therefore, what your classifying as a "Hades cannon" is a destroyer.

source?

Common sense.
Well you even admitted it was anti-aircraft weapon, and the wiki that your going dismiss as actual proof. but honestly, i though this was common sense. It's a weapon, not an actual reaper.
Swallow your pride, just admit it.

http://masseffect.wi...ki/Hades_Cannon

look, several of us have proven you wrong, so accept it, you were mistaken no big deal.

the fact you are constantly trying to prove your self after weve proven you wrong on several occassions just makes you look pathetic

[Tealjaker94]

LaughingDragon wrote...

Whatever the specific details are, if there actually is no way to defeat the reapers, then I can accept that but that means everyone in the ME universe dies and is harvested.

The concept of a magic device that kills reapers at the push of a button sitting on mars is the most retarded idea I've ever heard.

It was poorly introduced but it's hardly uncommon practice. LOTR: Destroy the One Ring, you win. Star Wars: Fire torpedo here, you win; Kill Emperor, you win.