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[Xilizhra]

Rotgutso wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Do you ever talk about anything other than hating EDI?

Maybe I'm biased against her for taking Joker, but my suspicions have merit.

Maybe?

[dreman9999]

Rotgutso wrote...

ForThessia wrote...

Rotgutso wrote...

EDI sympathizes with the geth that sided with the reapers. Legion opposed that and was willing to fight against hostile geth. Also, Legion has a soul and a real personality, unlike EDI.

what game were you playing?<_<   EDI has way more personality than legion, and if any synthetic has a soul its EDI not the geth

"Does this unit have a soul?"

Legion explores this further than any other AI in the game.

No he doesn't. He only brought up the question indirectly. Edi explorse it farther by becaoming human.Legion doen't even get a fine ture persona till close to the end of rennoch.

[M Hedonist]

Naerivar wrote...

And what makes you think Legion is more trustworthy? :S

As a matter of fact, what makes anyone more trustworthy?
I don't know how OP could trust anyone with that kind of paranoia. OP's got an awfully specific case of paranoia.

Rotgutso wrote...

KAM12780 wrote...

EDI has proved herself time and again throughout ME2 and ME3. Sir, are you a troll?

Only because the story forced her so. Legion could performed her job, and much much better. She shot at me during ME1, and she is unreliable in keeping the Normandy from being detected by reapers.

The story forces her to be trustworthy therefore we can't be sure whether she's trustworthy?
That doesn't make one bit of sense. This thread didn't get to the second page before you've already crossed into Insane Troll Logic territory. Better luck next time.

Modifié par Sauruz, 09 juillet 2012 - 09:27 .

[Rotgutso]

dreman9999 wrote...

Rotgutso wrote...

The Night Mammoth wrote...

Yes.

Because she chooses to help me, and does not deceive or oppose the crew of the Normandy or their allies, she shares similar goals and proves to be a likable individual and a worthwhile asset to the team. She saves Joker's life and your life at least once each in the story.

Then why does she always let the Normandy be detected in reaper controled systems?

....You send out a signal to find thing with the normady. The reaper sense it and then come..How is this a betral?

And she can't use the reaper IFF to do something about it? Legion could've done it much better. He was able to let me get access to the reaper base in rannoch.

[Xilizhra]

And she can't use the reaper IFF to do something about it? Legion could've done it much better. He was able to let me get access to the reaper base in rannoch.

How the heck is that her fault? And Legion was getting a bunch of people in on foot to a completely different situation.

And if she wanted the Normandy to be caught, she'd just turn the engines off.

Modifié par Xilizhra, 09 juillet 2012 - 09:28 .

[dreman9999]

AlexMBrennan wrote...

Nope, I don't trust her. EDI was built by Cerberus, so I "trust" her as long as Shepard's goals and Cerberus' align. EDI did not "prove herself" during the suicide mission - because it's exactly what she'd have done if she was working for TIM first*

In particular, EDI being in control of the Normandy is the main reason I destroyed the Collector base - because EDI could easily have killed Shepard once back on the ship, this was the only way to ensure it wouldn't fall into Cerberus' hands.

* You can trust someone when you know that they won't betray you when it would be to their advantage

Oh my god. You do understand she was unshaked then  and didn't have to help?

If an AI has all the freedom to rewrite her programing, what stopping her from rewriting it's programing to not help you?

Add the cerberus base videos pretty much proves she is not with cerberus.

[Ageless Face]

You shouldn't talk to her. As well as any other character you don't like.

Really, is there ONE character in your squad you can be a jerk to in ME3?

[dreman9999]

Rotgutso wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Rotgutso wrote...

The Night Mammoth wrote...

Yes.

Because she chooses to help me, and does not deceive or oppose the crew of the Normandy or their allies, she shares similar goals and proves to be a likable individual and a worthwhile asset to the team. She saves Joker's life and your life at least once each in the story.

Then why does she always let the Normandy be detected in reaper controled systems?

....You send out a signal to find thing with the normady. The reaper sense it and then come..How is this a betral?

And she can't use the reaper IFF to do something about it? Legion could've done it much better. He was able to let me get access to the reaper base in rannoch.

Hiding from Geth is completly different form hiding from a reaper. Geth can be hacked and messed with, Reapers can't.

[The Night Mammoth]

Rotgutso wrote...

The Night Mammoth wrote...

Yes.

Because she chooses to help me, and does not deceive or oppose the crew of the Normandy or their allies, she shares similar goals and proves to be a likable individual and a worthwhile asset to the team. She saves Joker's life and your life at least once each in the story.

Then why does she always let the Normandy be detected in reaper controled systems?

That's not her. That's an unforunate by-product of the Normandy's scanners, that you choose to initiate. 

To nip that in the bud, remember that she does not oppose you leaving the system when the Reapers arrive. She could hinder your escape, but chooses not to. 

[ForThessia]

Rotgutso wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Rotgutso wrote...

The Night Mammoth wrote...

Yes.

Because she chooses to help me, and does not deceive or oppose the crew of the Normandy or their allies, she shares similar goals and proves to be a likable individual and a worthwhile asset to the team. She saves Joker's life and your life at least once each in the story.

Then why does she always let the Normandy be detected in reaper controled systems?

....You send out a signal to find thing with the normady. The reaper sense it and then come..How is this a betral?

And she can't use the reaper IFF to do something about it? Legion could've done it much better. He was able to let me get access to the reaper base in rannoch.

Legion would have done worse! EDI is specialized for cyber warfare and the reaper IFF does not make you invisible to reapers. the reaper base was not reaper tech it was geth/quarian tech so of course legion can get in, EDI could too 

[Rotgutso]

Xilizhra wrote...

And she can't use the reaper IFF to do something about it? Legion could've done it much better. He was able to let me get access to the reaper base in rannoch.

How the heck is that her fault? And Legion was getting a bunch of people in on foot to a completely different situation.

She is responsible for all the cyberwarfare, yet she allows the reapers to detect me. Of course that's her responsibility.

[dreman9999]

HagarIshay wrote...

You shouldn't talk to her. As well as any other character you don't like.

Really, is there ONE character in your squad you can be a jerk to in ME3?

It there a charcter you can directlybe a jerk to with out an event in ME2?

[Rotgutso]

HagarIshay wrote...

You shouldn't talk to her. As well as any other character you don't like.

Really, is there ONE character in your squad you can be a jerk to in ME3?

You can turn plenty of people down. EDI has a ton of plot armor, and her romance with Joker is almost unavoidable.

[dreman9999]

Rotgutso wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

And she can't use the reaper IFF to do something about it? Legion could've done it much better. He was able to let me get access to the reaper base in rannoch.

How the heck is that her fault? And Legion was getting a bunch of people in on foot to a completely different situation.

She is responsible for all the cyberwarfare, yet she allows the reapers to detect me. Of course that's her responsibility.

She can't hack reapers, no one can. And hiding from reapers is a very finite thing to do. Having them not attack you all the time with the signals down is a feat in itself.

Modifié par dreman9999, 09 juillet 2012 - 09:33 .

[ForThessia]

Rotgutso wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

And she can't use the reaper IFF to do something about it? Legion could've done it much better. He was able to let me get access to the reaper base in rannoch.

How the heck is that her fault? And Legion was getting a bunch of people in on foot to a completely different situation.

She is responsible for all the cyberwarfare, yet she allows the reapers to detect me. Of course that's her responsibility.

 i cant, i just cant 

[Unlimited69x]

From EDI: "When I think of Jeff, I think of the person who put his life in danger and freed me of a life of servitude. I would risk non functionality for him and my core programming should reflect that."

Modifié par Unlimited69x, 09 juillet 2012 - 09:33 .

[dreman9999]

Rotgutso wrote...

HagarIshay wrote...

You shouldn't talk to her. As well as any other character you don't like.

Really, is there ONE character in your squad you can be a jerk to in ME3?

You can turn plenty of people down. EDI has a ton of plot armor, and her romance with Joker is almost unavoidable.

Why is her romance with Joker a problem?

Modifié par dreman9999, 09 juillet 2012 - 09:35 .

[dreman9999]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Rotgutso wrote...

"Does this unit have a soul?"

Legion explores this further than any other AI in the game.

No he doesn't. He only brought up the question indirectly.

No, I recall him asking it straight up.

No, he did not. He played a recording of a geth asking it. It was not him directly. Then he reminded Shepard of the question. Edi still explores it furth any way.

[M Hedonist]

Is Chakwas trustworthy?
She could've given you bulletproof skin that makes you invincible but she never does. The only logical answer is that she must have wanted you to get hurt and put your life into danger.

[Ageless Face]

dreman9999 wrote...

It there a charcter you can directlybe a jerk to with out an event in ME2?

Yes. Tali, Miranda, Jacob, Grunt, Jack, Zaeed, Mordin, Samara, Morinth...

Modifié par HagarIshay, 09 juillet 2012 - 09:37 .

[Rotgutso]

dreman9999 wrote...

Rotgutso wrote...

HagarIshay wrote...

You shouldn't talk to her. As well as any other character you don't like.

Really, is there ONE character in your squad you can be a jerk to in ME3?

You can turn plenty of people down. EDI has a ton of plot armor, and her romance with Joker is almost unavoidable.

Why is here romance with Joker a problem?

A toaster computer simply doesn't deserve it. She can't return real organic emotions.

Considering that she can't even hide the ship from reapers even with stealth and a reaper IFF, she's either untrustworthy or incompetent.

Modifié par Rotgutso, 09 juillet 2012 - 09:36 .

[Ageless Face]

Rotgutso wrote...
You can turn plenty of people down. EDI has a ton of plot armor, and her romance with Joker is almost unavoidable.

Squadmates? None. Shepard likes them all, even if you don't.

And it's very easy to avoid Joker and EDI hook up. Just tell them not to do it. 

Modifié par HagarIshay, 09 juillet 2012 - 09:38 .

[dreman9999]

Xilizhra wrote...

And she can't use the reaper IFF to do something about it? Legion could've done it much better. He was able to let me get access to the reaper base in rannoch.

How the heck is that her fault? And Legion was getting a bunch of people in on foot to a completely different situation.

And if she wanted the Normandy to be caught, she'd just turn the engines off.

Hell, she can vent the ship of air if she wanted to.

[Unlimited69x]

Rotgutso wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Rotgutso wrote...

HagarIshay wrote...

You shouldn't talk to her. As well as any other character you don't like.

Really, is there ONE character in your squad you can be a jerk to in ME3?

You can turn plenty of people down. EDI has a ton of plot armor, and her romance with Joker is almost unavoidable.

Why is here romance with Joker a problem?

A toaster computer simply doesn't deserve it. She can't return real organic emotions.

Considering that she can't even hide the ship from reapers even with stealth and a reaper IFF, she's either untrustworthy or incompetent.

It sounds like you skipped a lot of the finer details of the game. All these questions you keep popping up have been anwersed in the game.