Sauruz wrote...
Is Chakwas trustworthy?
She could've given you bulletproof skin that makes you invincible but she never does. The only logical answer is that she must have wanted you to get hurt and put your life into danger.
Modifié par Rotgutso, 09 juillet 2012 - 09:39 .
1.She clearly can return thoes emotion. She even said she would die for him. You still haven't given me a reason why her romance with Jeff is bad?Rotgutso wrote...
dreman9999 wrote...
Why is here romance with Joker a problem?Rotgutso wrote...
HagarIshay wrote...
You shouldn't talk to her. As well as any other character you don't like.
Really, is there ONE character in your squad you can be a jerk to in ME3?
You can turn plenty of people down. EDI has a ton of plot armor, and her romance with Joker is almost unavoidable.
A toaster computer simply doesn't deserve it. She can't return real organic emotions.
Considering that she can't even hide the ship from reapers even with stealth and a reaper IFF, she's either untrustworthy or incompetent.
EDI being unshackled is completely irrelevant; Bayesian statistics, however, is not.dreman9999 wrote...
Oh my god. You do understand she was unshaked then and didn't have to help?AlexMBrennan wrote...
Nope, I don't trust her. EDI was built by Cerberus, so I "trust" her as long as Shepard's goals and Cerberus' align. EDI did not "prove herself" during the suicide mission - because it's exactly what she'd have done if she was working for TIM first*
In particular, EDI being in control of the Normandy is the main reason I destroyed the Collector base - because EDI could easily have killed Shepard once back on the ship, this was the only way to ensure it wouldn't fall into Cerberus' hands.
* You can trust someone when you know that they won't betray you when it would be to their advantage
If an AI has all the freedom to rewrite her programing, what stopping her from rewriting it's programing to not help you?
That's a video you get to see at the very end of ME3. You cannot use this information to justify Shepard trusting EDI before then.Add the cerberus base videos pretty much proves she is not with cerberus.
And he says the after the collector ship mission and the cerberus base mission....If EDI was nto there, what would of happened?Rotgutso wrote...
Sauruz wrote...
Is Chakwas trustworthy?
She could've given you bulletproof skin that makes you invincible but she never does. The only logical answer is that she must have wanted you to get hurt and put your life into danger.
Chakwas has been with me since the first game. She has proven herself over many many years. EDI is a highly corruptable and incompetent computer. Also, doesn't it bother people that she's built with reaper tech?
Guest_Cthulhu42_*
"Tali'Zorah... does... this... unit.. have..."dreman9999 wrote...
No, he did not. He played a recording of a geth asking it. It was not him directly. Then he reminded Shepard of the question. Edi still explores it furth any way.Cthulhu42 wrote...
No, I recall him asking it straight up.dreman9999 wrote...
No he doesn't. He only brought up the question indirectly.Rotgutso wrote...
"Does this unit have a soul?"
Legion explores this further than any other AI in the game.
1. Of course that realevent. Being unshakled means that she is choosing to help. She is not being force to help at all. It relivent.AlexMBrennan wrote...
EDI being unshackled is completely irrelevant; Bayesian statistics, however, is not.dreman9999 wrote...
Oh my god. You do understand she was unshaked then and didn't have to help?AlexMBrennan wrote...
Nope, I don't trust her. EDI was built by Cerberus, so I "trust" her as long as Shepard's goals and Cerberus' align. EDI did not "prove herself" during the suicide mission - because it's exactly what she'd have done if she was working for TIM first*
In particular, EDI being in control of the Normandy is the main reason I destroyed the Collector base - because EDI could easily have killed Shepard once back on the ship, this was the only way to ensure it wouldn't fall into Cerberus' hands.
* You can trust someone when you know that they won't betray you when it would be to their advantage
If an AI has all the freedom to rewrite her programing, what stopping her from rewriting it's programing to not help you?
Let's, for the moment, assume that EDI had a secret mission: Capture the Collector base for Cerberus at any cost, killing Shepard if necessary.
Would you expect any changes in her behaviour? No, you wouldn't - you'd expect her to help you track the Cerberus cruiser, navigate the Omega-4 relay and all that stuff because her mission and Shepard's (stop the Collectors) align.
As a result, your posterior odds for trusting EDI are unchanged.
Once you blow up the base, EDI has nothing to gain from breaking cover, so again, her behaviour will be exactly the same. Therefore, at the start of ME3 I still have no less reason to believe that EDI has a secret Cerberus mission then when Shepard first met her.That's a video you get to see at the very end of ME3. You cannot use this information to justify Shepard trusting EDI before then.Add the cerberus base videos pretty much proves she is not with cerberus.
That never happen. And if you insist, I would need you to post a video.Cthulhu42 wrote...
"Tali'Zorah... does... this... unit.. have..."dreman9999 wrote...
No, he did not. He played a recording of a geth asking it. It was not him directly. Then he reminded Shepard of the question. Edi still explores it furth any way.Cthulhu42 wrote...
No, I recall him asking it straight up.dreman9999 wrote...
No he doesn't. He only brought up the question indirectly.Rotgutso wrote...
"Does this unit have a soul?"
Legion explores this further than any other AI in the game.
Yeah, that's not asking directly at all.
dreman9999 wrote...
1.She clearly can return thoes emotion. She even said she would die for him. You still haven't given me a reason why her romance with Jeff is bad?Rotgutso wrote...
dreman9999 wrote...
Why is here romance with Joker a problem?Rotgutso wrote...
HagarIshay wrote...
You shouldn't talk to her. As well as any other character you don't like.
Really, is there ONE character in your squad you can be a jerk to in ME3?
You can turn plenty of people down. EDI has a ton of plot armor, and her romance with Joker is almost unavoidable.
A toaster computer simply doesn't deserve it. She can't return real organic emotions.
Considering that she can't even hide the ship from reapers even with stealth and a reaper IFF, she's either untrustworthy or incompetent.
2.It's reapers. Theycan find anything if they wanted to. The made it clear when they blow up the last normady. The reapers tech is that advance. It not her fault if sending out signals attrack them.
Ohh... Awkward!Bill Casey wrote...
No, that was my impression of their coitus...KAM12780 wrote...
Don'tBill Casey wrote...
Joker: "Oww. **** **** ****! Hey watch the arm! "ElementL09 wrote...
Yeah she's trustworthy, and I don't really see what she does questionable in the game, besides romancing joker.
EDI: "I enjoy the sight of humans on their knees"
Joker: "What the ****? I think I fractured some ribs"
EDI: "This is proving to be an illuminating experience"
Joker: "You start singing 'daisy bell' and I'm done"
forget the part where she says, "That was a joke." EDI doesn't
understand the severity of the situation, so was the joke necessary at
the time? No, because the whole crew is being kidnapped, but she doesn't
understand humor like we do.
It doesn't bother anyone that she's built with Reaper tech because she constantly talks about how she despises the Reapers and because she repeatedly helps you against the Reapers. She even helps you kill Reapers.Rotgutso wrote...
Sauruz wrote...
Is Chakwas trustworthy?
She could've given you bulletproof skin that makes you invincible but she never does. The only logical answer is that she must have wanted you to get hurt and put your life into danger.
Chakwas has been with me since the first game. She has proven herself over many many years. EDI is a highly corruptable and incompetent computer. Also, doesn't it bother people that she's built with reaper tech?
Guest_Cthulhu42_*
Here you go, o unbeliever.dreman9999 wrote...
That never happen. And if you insist, I would need you to post a video.Cthulhu42 wrote...
"Tali'Zorah... does... this... unit.. have..."
Yeah, that's not asking directly at all.
WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT?!?!?!?!?!?!?? What about your pal Legion updating himself with Reaper Code?!?!??!!?Rotgutso wrote...
Sauruz wrote...
Is Chakwas trustworthy?
She could've given you bulletproof skin that makes you invincible but she never does. The only logical answer is that she must have wanted you to get hurt and put your life into danger.
Chakwas has been with me since the first game. She has proven herself over many many years. EDI is a highly corruptable and incompetent computer. Also, doesn't it bother people that she's built with reaper tech?
Sauruz wrote...
It doesn't bother anyone that she's built with Reaper tech because she constantly talks about how she despises the Reapers and because she repeatedly helps you against the Reapers. She even helps you kill Reapers.Rotgutso wrote...
Sauruz wrote...
Is Chakwas trustworthy?
She could've given you bulletproof skin that makes you invincible but she never does. The only logical answer is that she must have wanted you to get hurt and put your life into danger.
Chakwas has been with me since the first game. She has proven herself over many many years. EDI is a highly corruptable and incompetent computer. Also, doesn't it bother people that she's built with reaper tech?
KAM12780 wrote...
WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT?!?!?!?!?!?!?? What about your pal Legion updating himself with Reaper Code?!?!??!!?Rotgutso wrote...
Sauruz wrote...
Is Chakwas trustworthy?
She could've given you bulletproof skin that makes you invincible but she never does. The only logical answer is that she must have wanted you to get hurt and put your life into danger.
Chakwas has been with me since the first game. She has proven herself over many many years. EDI is a highly corruptable and incompetent computer. Also, doesn't it bother people that she's built with reaper tech?
The IFF only existed to make it past the Omega-4 relay. The Reapers can still see through it.So if EDI has reaper tech and reaper IFF installed and stealth, are you really telling me that she can't hide me from reapers? If not, then she is just inferior or incompetent.
1. How is it simulated if she's the one that writes it in her code? She choosed to write it in her code, that means it's real.Rotgutso wrote...
dreman9999 wrote...
1.She clearly can return thoes emotion. She even said she would die for him. You still haven't given me a reason why her romance with Jeff is bad?Rotgutso wrote...
dreman9999 wrote...
Why is here romance with Joker a problem?Rotgutso wrote...
HagarIshay wrote...
You shouldn't talk to her. As well as any other character you don't like.
Really, is there ONE character in your squad you can be a jerk to in ME3?
You can turn plenty of people down. EDI has a ton of plot armor, and her romance with Joker is almost unavoidable.
A toaster computer simply doesn't deserve it. She can't return real organic emotions.
Considering that she can't even hide the ship from reapers even with stealth and a reaper IFF, she's either untrustworthy or incompetent.
2.It's reapers. Theycan find anything if they wanted to. The made it clear when they blow up the last normady. The reapers tech is that advance. It not her fault if sending out signals attrack them.
1. It's cheap and unrealistic. And it's not real, only simulated.
2. So if EDI has reaper tech and reaper IFF installed and stealth, are you really telling me that she can't hide me from reapers? If not, then she is just inferior or incompetent.
She can't turn you invincible. Get over it already.Rotgutso wrote...
So if EDI has reaper tech and reaper IFF installed and stealth, are you really telling me that she can't hide me from reapers? If not, then she is just inferior or incompetent.
Replay rennoch. He had it way before then. He had it from the geth dednought mission.Rotgutso wrote...
KAM12780 wrote...
WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT?!?!?!?!?!?!?? What about your pal Legion updating himself with Reaper Code?!?!??!!?Rotgutso wrote...
Sauruz wrote...
Is Chakwas trustworthy?
She could've given you bulletproof skin that makes you invincible but she never does. The only logical answer is that she must have wanted you to get hurt and put your life into danger.
Chakwas has been with me since the first game. She has proven herself over many many years. EDI is a highly corruptable and incompetent computer. Also, doesn't it bother people that she's built with reaper tech?
He only did that when the rannoch reaper died to make the geth better.
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