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[me308f1cd5c]

The synthesis ending changes ALL life in the galaxy, WITHOUT permission.  And this is changed for FOREVER.

If bringing upon the extinction of all natural organic life in the Milky Way Galaxy isn't evil, then what is?

So why is bioware trying to make this ending be the best outcome, and making it look morally right?

If some man invented mechanical body parts that were superior then organic ones, is it right for him to gas people, and do surgery on them against their will, to remove certain inferior organic parts to be replaced by mechanical ones?  No it is not.  But bioware is saying that something like this is good.

It doesn't matter if this man has good intentions, and that what he invented can be used for good, but you know what they say, the road to hell is paved with good intentions.  It doesn't matter if this man thinks what he is doing is right, if he is forcing it upon people instead of giving people a choice...then it's evil.....period.

So it is wrong for the bioware writers to think that just because the galaxy is synthesized because of shepards good intentions, somehow makes it morally right and not evil.

What do you think?

Edit:  Also remember guys, the dude who really wants your shepard to do Synthesis is an EVIL AI. So that right there isn't a good sign.

Modifié par me308f1cd5c, 10 juillet 2012 - 06:25 .

[Taboo]

Once it involves you, everything becomes grayer.

[Jamie9]

Glad to see you got informed consent to use Control. Oh wait.

Glad to see you got informed consent to use Refuse. Oh wait.

Glad to see you got informed consent to use Destroy. Oh wait.

[Taboo]

No one knows what it's like

To be hated

To be fated

To telling only lies



But my dreams

They aren't as empty

As my conscience seems to be

[felipejiraya]

BioWare is a branch of Al Qaeda, that's why they're promoting evil.

[liggy002]

Jamie9 wrote...

Glad to see you got informed consent to use Control. Oh wait.

Glad to see you got informed consent to use Refuse. Oh wait.

Glad to see you got informed consent to use Destroy. Oh wait.

You're missing the point.   Synthesis is painted as the "best" ending because you need the highest EMS to get it.

[dreman9999]

The theme of ME is what lengths the player would go to stop an unstoppable force. It's to bring the player to moral delema via choice. This has been through out the series. Why is the ending choice to morally difficult to choose if we already had this before in the past 2 games?
Why do some many people want a black and white ending?

[Atakuma]

Because evil has all the good muffins.

[Taboo]

liggy002 wrote...

Jamie9 wrote...

Glad to see you got informed consent to use Control. Oh wait.

Glad to see you got informed consent to use Refuse. Oh wait.

Glad to see you got informed consent to use Destroy. Oh wait.

You're missing the point.   Synthesis is painted as the "best" ending because you need the highest EMS to get it.

No you don't.

Stop promoting flat out LIES.

[shurikenmanta]

HURR DURR EA GAYMZ IS BEELZEBUB ND MAC WALTERS WAS CLONED FROM HILTERS EYELASH BURRRRRR

Modifié par shurikenmanta, 10 juillet 2012 - 01:08 .

[dbt-kenny]

well what can we say to this that will not get us band.

[dreman9999]

liggy002 wrote...

Jamie9 wrote...

Glad to see you got informed consent to use Control. Oh wait.

Glad to see you got informed consent to use Refuse. Oh wait.

Glad to see you got informed consent to use Destroy. Oh wait.

You're missing the point.   Synthesis is painted as the "best" ending because you need the highest EMS to get it.

No, that's Shepard serviving destroy and Synthesis is not in the best light. Don't used the reapers forced programing as the guide to what the best ending is.

Modifié par dreman9999, 10 juillet 2012 - 01:09 .

[Cuddlezarro]

liggy002 wrote...

Jamie9 wrote...

Glad to see you got informed consent to use Control. Oh wait.

Glad to see you got informed consent to use Refuse. Oh wait.

Glad to see you got informed consent to use Destroy. Oh wait.

You're missing the point.   Synthesis is painted as the "best" ending because you need the highest EMS to get it.

destroy w/shep alive requires higher

[ghost9191]

Jamie9 wrote...

Glad to see you got informed consent to use Control. Oh wait.

Glad to see you got informed consent to use Refuse. Oh wait.

Glad to see you got informed consent to use Destroy. Oh wait.

hey , everyone agreed to destroy

that is the one option you got consent for

[ASmoothCriminalx]

1 star for critical thinking skills.

[Joy Sauce]

Evil will always triumph because good is dumb.

[me308f1cd5c]

ghost9191 wrote...

Jamie9 wrote...

Glad to see you got informed consent to use Control. Oh wait.

Glad to see you got informed consent to use Refuse. Oh wait.

Glad to see you got informed consent to use Destroy. Oh wait.

hey , everyone agreed to destroy

that is the one option you got consent for

Also in Destroy, though all AI have been wiped out, im sure intelligent machines can be rebuilt in the future.  However, in the Milky Way, all natural organic life has been wiped out, and no new natural organic life can be created in the Milky Way.

[Jamie9]

ghost9191 wrote...

Jamie9 wrote...

Glad to see you got informed consent to use Control. Oh wait.

Glad to see you got informed consent to use Refuse. Oh wait.

Glad to see you got informed consent to use Destroy. Oh wait.

hey , everyone agreed to destroy

that is the one option you got consent for

I don't remember hearing the Geth say: "Please sacrifice us, EVEN if there is an option that does not require it. Just sacrifice us."

[me308f1cd5c]

ASmoothCriminalx wrote...

1 star for critical thinking skills.

Thanks for the compliment, ill take that 1 star

[Taboo]

me308f1cd5c wrote...

ghost9191 wrote...

Jamie9 wrote...

Glad to see you got informed consent to use Control. Oh wait.

Glad to see you got informed consent to use Refuse. Oh wait.

Glad to see you got informed consent to use Destroy. Oh wait.

hey , everyone agreed to destroy

that is the one option you got consent for

Also in Destroy, though all AI have been wiped out, im sure intelligent machines can be rebuilt in the future.  However, in the Milky Way, all natural organic life has been wiped out, and no new natural organic life can be created in the Milky Way.

Do you understand how biology works? AT ALL?

ARE YOU SERIOUS?

[dreman9999]

Op the problem is that you are basing this on an AI forced to do it's programming. It will always pick the best way to do synthesis, no matter how wrong or debased it is. It has no morality thus no moral cumpose and to say synthesis is the best ending based on it's forced logic is not the best why to determine it

[liggy002]

Joy Sauce wrote...

Evil will always triumph because good is dumb.

Wrong.  "Power is fleeting.  Love is eternal."

[Shaigunjoe]

I guess the high EMS is tied into how much power the crucible can provide. I think most people would agree, that out of the three choices, it would seem synthesis would require the most power to pull off. As far as morals are concerned, I do not think there is a true moral high ground among the options.