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[Applepie_Svk]

BWAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA ! :devil::devil:

Yeah and synthesis is not EVIL !!!!

Modifié par Applepie_Svk, 10 juillet 2012 - 04:48 .

[memorysquid]

Gweedotk wrote...

And I don't like everyone trying to have the ending either removed or butchered just so it would agree with their viewpoints.

This is the worst part.  BW bent over backwards to satisfy their customer base without completely caving to a vocal minority and still we see these comparisons of a completely fictional and apparently totally beneficial situation to some of the worst atrocities in human history.  All because some people didn't get their preferred ending with a thoroughly evil villain they could destroy without further thought and fly off into the sunset.  When this kind of kerfluffle happens over soemthing this trivial, it makes me despair for real-life politics.

[Welsh Inferno]

Applepie_Svk wrote...



BWAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA ! :devil::devil:

Love that 

[Gweedotk]

We shouldn't be trying to remove choices, but trying to get Bioware to add choices. This is the last game of the trilogy and I think we don't get enough to choose from.

[Klijpope]

memorysquid wrote...

Gweedotk wrote...

And I don't like everyone trying to have the ending either removed or butchered just so it would agree with their viewpoints.

This is the worst part.  BW bent over backwards to satisfy their customer base without completely caving to a vocal minority and still we see these comparisons of a completely fictional and apparently totally beneficial situation to some of the worst atrocities in human history.  All because some people didn't get their preferred ending with a thoroughly evil villain they could destroy without further thought and fly off into the sunset.  When this kind of kerfluffle happens over soemthing this trivial, it makes me despair for real-life politics.

I actually think ME3 is a better psychometric test than all those pseudoscientific bobbins people get made to do when they start a new job or course. They could just ask if you're Red, Green, Blue, or Refuse?

[Seifer006]

it's a ****** video game.

[me308f1cd5c]

Also remember guys, the dude who really wants your shepard to do Synthesis is an EVIL AI. So that right there isn't a good sign.

[VoodooDrackus]

Sajuro wrote...

Jamie9 wrote...

Glad to see you got informed consent to use Control. Oh wait.

Glad to see you got informed consent to use Refuse. Oh wait.

Glad to see you got informed consent to use Destroy. Oh wait.

Actually the whole point of the game was to destroy the reapers sooo

Pretty sure it was to stop the Reapers and their harvesting plan.

Destroy can be a fairly subjective term. Destroy in the Destroy ending however means total extinction for all Geth and all Reapers (entire nations). You are detroying a collective conscious of entire nations in one fell swoop and people think the Reapers are the bad guys?
At least when they come to bring order to the chaos they are preserving the civilizations consciousness and achievements, no matter how twisted that seems.

Personally if I was the catalyst I may have preserved nations in a different way with each reaper containing the physical bodies of a species in an eternal like stasis. Then they could use their collective minds to operate the Ship. Less creepy that way. Perhaps if the creators put in to its programming, "oh by the way the species should be preserved by not melting them down. We're thinking collective networking" then we might be playing a different game entirely.

[memorysquid]

Klijpope wrote...

memorysquid wrote...

Gweedotk wrote...

And I don't like everyone trying to have the ending either removed or butchered just so it would agree with their viewpoints.

This is the worst part.  BW bent over backwards to satisfy their customer base without completely caving to a vocal minority and still we see these comparisons of a completely fictional and apparently totally beneficial situation to some of the worst atrocities in human history.  All because some people didn't get their preferred ending with a thoroughly evil villain they could destroy without further thought and fly off into the sunset.  When this kind of kerfluffle happens over soemthing this trivial, it makes me despair for real-life politics.

I actually think ME3 is a better psychometric test than all those pseudoscientific bobbins people get made to do when they start a new job or course. They could just ask if you're Red, Green, Blue, or Refuse?

Holy crap there's a hell of a psych test.

[vixvicco]

Jamie9 wrote...

Glad to see you got informed consent to use Control. Oh wait.

Glad to see you got informed consent to use Refuse. Oh wait.

Glad to see you got informed consent to use Destroy. Oh wait.

Um, since when do you need informed consent on the other two options? How do they effect everyone (other than Synthetics with Destroy)? And you are missing the point-you need high EMS to get Synthesis option available. I 

Anyway, I would not call it evil, but I do get your point. Then again the three choices are all stupid.

[memorysquid]

vixvicco wrote...

Jamie9 wrote...

Glad to see you got informed consent to use Control. Oh wait.

Glad to see you got informed consent to use Refuse. Oh wait.

Glad to see you got informed consent to use Destroy. Oh wait.

Um, since when do you need informed consent on the other two options? How do they effect everyone (other than Synthetics with Destroy)? And you are missing the point-you need high EMS to get Synthesis option available. I 

Anyway, I would not call it evil, but I do get your point. Then again the three choices are all stupid.

Control only subjects the universe to a Reaper powered tyranny.  Destroy simply causes Geth genocide.  No biggies.  Shepard was looking for that informed consent when he cured the genophage and blew up 300k Batarians, too, right?  Oh wait, he just blew up the Batarians because he thought it was necessary to simply delay the Reapers and when questioned on the genophage told Hackett "Well I did it, and no one can stop it."

[Strelsky]

Jamie9 wrote...

Glad to see you got informed consent to use Destroy. Oh wait.

Glad to see you have played the entire Mass Effect series. Oh wait, you obviously have not.

[The Spamming Troll]

maybe a little off topic here but i do NOT appreciate renegades always having tons of money and all the ****es!

why is there 137 awesome renegade interrupts and only maybe 4 awesome paragon ones? playing as much of a paragon as i can, i think the few renegade ones i pick are better then any paragon one i would get.

Modifié par The Spamming Troll, 11 juillet 2012 - 02:17 .

[SpaceLingo]

memorysquid wrote...

SpaceLingo wrote...

Ethics aside, I find synthesis makes no sense. (or less than the other 3)
I know i wouldn't want my DNA altered like that.

Would you prefer to be dead?  Would you prefer to kill another race so you could preserve your DNA?  Would you prefer to subject the galaxy to the tyranny of Reaper Shep?  The question is not do you prefer synthesis per se, but do you prefer it in comparison to the other choices.

It's an ugly situation at best.
Well, the catalyst did say that the damage to synthetics would be relativly minor and easy to repair.  I would think that if they did go out they could be reapaired and brought back online.  After all, their physical form is just hardware.  I don't think the crucible could just "wipe" all the data everywhere...that's leave everyone in a stone age.  I deemed it the best possible choice.

[TheShadowWolf911]

you misspelled Evil, its spelled EA.

[daaaav]

Jamie9 wrote...

BatmanPWNS wrote...

Cuz, first Bioware said that being different is a good thing (ME1/2) and then suddenly everyone being the same is a good thing.

Synthesis creates more diversity.

Hang on... Please elaborate?

[UniversalCypher]

me308f1cd5c wrote...

The synthesis ending changes ALL life in the galaxy, WITHOUT permission.  And this is changed for FOREVER.

If bringing upon the extinction of all natural organic life in the Milky Way Galaxy isn't evil, then what is?

So why is bioware trying to make this ending be the best outcome, and making it look morally right?

If some man invented mechanical body parts that were superior then organic ones, is it right for him to gas people, and do surgery on them against their will, to remove certain inferior organic parts to be replaced by mechanical ones?  No it is not.  But bioware is saying that something like this is good.

It doesn't matter if this man has good intentions, and that what he invented can be used for good, but you know what they say, the road to hell is paved with good intentions.  It doesn't matter if this man thinks what he is doing is right, if he is forcing it upon people instead of giving people a choice...then it's evil.....period.

So it is wrong for the bioware writers to think that just because the galaxy is synthesized because of shepards good intentions, somehow makes it morally right and not evil.

What do you think?

Edit:  Also remember guys, the dude who really wants your shepard to do Synthesis is an EVIL AI. So that right there isn't a good sign.

i guess thats your opinion..

[hoodaticus]

Seifer006 wrote...

it's a ****** video game.

Irony so thick it can crack your screen.

[clennon8]

memorysquid wrote...

vixvicco wrote...

Jamie9 wrote...

Glad to see you got informed consent to use Control. Oh wait.

Glad to see you got informed consent to use Refuse. Oh wait.

Glad to see you got informed consent to use Destroy. Oh wait.

Um, since when do you need informed consent on the other two options? How do they effect everyone (other than Synthetics with Destroy)? And you are missing the point-you need high EMS to get Synthesis option available. I 

Anyway, I would not call it evil, but I do get your point. Then again the three choices are all stupid.

Control only subjects the universe to a Reaper powered tyranny.  Destroy simply causes Geth genocide.  No biggies.  Shepard was looking for that informed consent when he cured the genophage and blew up 300k Batarians, too, right?  Oh wait, he just blew up the Batarians because he thought it was necessary to simply delay the Reapers and when questioned on the genophage told Hackett "Well I did it, and no one can stop it."

Wow, there are some massive logical fallacies in those arguments.