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Jamie9 wrote...

ghost9191 wrote...

Jamie9 wrote...

Glad to see you got informed consent to use Control. Oh wait.

Glad to see you got informed consent to use Refuse. Oh wait.

Glad to see you got informed consent to use Destroy. Oh wait.


hey , everyone agreed to destroy

that is the one option you got consent for


I don't remember hearing the Geth say: "Please sacrifice us, EVEN if there is an option that does not require it. Just sacrifice us."

They never said to control them nor did all the organics say "Please, combine use with synthetics."

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Taboo-XX wrote...

me308f1cd5c wrote...

ghost9191 wrote...

Jamie9 wrote...

Glad to see you got informed consent to use Control. Oh wait.

Glad to see you got informed consent to use Refuse. Oh wait.

Glad to see you got informed consent to use Destroy. Oh wait.


hey , everyone agreed to destroy

that is the one option you got consent for


Also in Destroy, though all AI have been wiped out, im sure intelligent machines can be rebuilt in the future.  However, in the Milky Way, all natural organic life has been wiped out, and no new natural organic life can be created in the Milky Way.


Do you understand how biology works? AT ALL?

ARE YOU SERIOUS?


Space magic.

I'm just trying to say, that if new natural organic life can be created in the Milky Way after a synthesise ending, then whats the point of that ending?  I think bioware meant for synthesise to change all natural life for good in the milky way, and there won't be anymore new natural organic life in that galaxy.

I know it doesn't make any sense in the context of biology....but that's bioware's space magic for you.

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ghost9191

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me308f1cd5c wrote...

ghost9191 wrote...

Jamie9 wrote...

Glad to see you got informed consent to use Control. Oh wait.

Glad to see you got informed consent to use Refuse. Oh wait.

Glad to see you got informed consent to use Destroy. Oh wait.


hey , everyone agreed to destroy

that is the one option you got consent for


Also in Destroy, though all AI have been wiped out, im sure intelligent machines can be rebuilt in the future.  However, in the Milky Way, all natural organic life has been wiped out, and no new natural organic life can be created in the Milky Way.


but the geth knew the crucible would be used to destroy the reapers, they should've known that to do that it would have to target reaper tech or code which the geth had. so they should've thought about that for a few

but everyone agreed to destroy, so that is the one option you got consent

Modifié par ghost9191, 10 juillet 2012 - 01:16 .


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me308f1cd5c wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

me308f1cd5c wrote...

ghost9191 wrote...

Jamie9 wrote...

Glad to see you got informed consent to use Control. Oh wait.

Glad to see you got informed consent to use Refuse. Oh wait.

Glad to see you got informed consent to use Destroy. Oh wait.


hey , everyone agreed to destroy

that is the one option you got consent for


Also in Destroy, though all AI have been wiped out, im sure intelligent machines can be rebuilt in the future.  However, in the Milky Way, all natural organic life has been wiped out, and no new natural organic life can be created in the Milky Way.


Do you understand how biology works? AT ALL?

ARE YOU SERIOUS?


Space magic.

I'm just trying to say, that if new natural organic life can be created in the Milky Way after a synthesise ending, then whats the point of that ending?  I think bioware meant for synthesise to change all natural life for good in the milky way, and there won't be anymore new natural organic life in that galaxy.

I know it doesn't make any sense in the context of biology....but that's bioware's space magic for you.

A massive emp and a massive program rewrite is not space magic.
And you don't have to pick synthesis.

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dreman9999 wrote...

liggy002 wrote...

Jamie9 wrote...

Glad to see you got informed consent to use Control. Oh wait.

Glad to see you got informed consent to use Refuse. Oh wait.

Glad to see you got informed consent to use Destroy. Oh wait.



You're missing the point.   Synthesis is painted as the "best" ending because you need the highest EMS to get it.

No, that's Shepard serviving destroy and Synthesis is not in the best light. Don't used the reapers forced programing as the guide to what the best ending is.


Yes, but most people will only see the Synthesis ending at first since the Shep alive scene WAS only obtainable via multiplayer and external apps.  Also, consider how the Catalyst portrays Synthesis and Control (which are both morally bankrupt and disgusting options) versus Destroy,  Destroy is painted as Renegade by Bioware.  The one option that is actually the correct thing to do is painted as Renegade.

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dreman9999 wrote...

Jamie9 wrote...

ghost9191 wrote...

Jamie9 wrote...

Glad to see you got informed consent to use Control. Oh wait.

Glad to see you got informed consent to use Refuse. Oh wait.

Glad to see you got informed consent to use Destroy. Oh wait.


hey , everyone agreed to destroy

that is the one option you got consent for


I don't remember hearing the Geth say: "Please sacrifice us, EVEN if there is an option that does not require it. Just sacrifice us."

They never said to control them nor did all the organics say "Please, combine use with synthetics."


not the point, they consented to using the crucible to destroy the reapers. the s o b's should've realized that they would be targetted too. and the geth can be rebuilt. if i have to destroy 1.5 billion homicidal robots to save 13 other species then i will damns it

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So let me get this straight. A fictional game about fictional races, fictional characters and a fictional force for change in the Galaxy is being used as an analysis of a company's moral compass?

How is a company promoting evil over a story about making the best of a bad situation? Because of how a game ends in a scripted fashion to intentionally provide impossible choices?

This isn't even drawing a long bow. The bow is over there in the corner and you're down the road at the local insane asylum.

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liggy002 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

liggy002 wrote...

Jamie9 wrote...

Glad to see you got informed consent to use Control. Oh wait.

Glad to see you got informed consent to use Refuse. Oh wait.

Glad to see you got informed consent to use Destroy. Oh wait.



You're missing the point.   Synthesis is painted as the "best" ending because you need the highest EMS to get it.

No, that's Shepard serviving destroy and Synthesis is not in the best light. Don't used the reapers forced programing as the guide to what the best ending is.


Yes, but most people will only see the Synthesis ending at first since the Shep alive scene WAS only obtainable via multiplayer and external apps.  Also, consider how the Catalyst portrays Synthesis and Control (which are both morally bankrupt and disgusting options) versus Destroy,  Destroy is painted as Renegade by Bioware.  The one option that is actually the correct thing to do is painted as Renegade.

How can you say that? Of course plenty of people saw that ending. They did play the MP to get it. And that doesn't matter now, we don't need to play the mp to get it. It stillrequires a higher ems to get.

Modifié par dreman9999, 10 juillet 2012 - 01:20 .


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Taboo-XX wrote...

Once it involves you, everything becomes grayer.

This.

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You only need 3100 EMS with the EC to see everything.

STOP SAYING STUPID ****.

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In b4 the lock.

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Danathon wrote...

So let me get this straight. A fictional game about fictional races, fictional characters and a fictional force for change in the Galaxy is being used as an analysis of a company's moral compass?

How is a company promoting evil over a story about making the best of a bad situation? Because of how a game ends in a scripted fashion to intentionally provide impossible choices?

This isn't even drawing a long bow. The bow is over there in the corner and you're down the road at the local insane asylum.

Is n't the game s point to point out what hte players 
moral compass is?

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I hate synthesis, but including it was not evil. They gave 2 other choices. I think that they tried really hard to write as much different endings with as similar cutscenes as they could. Thus synthesis was born.
Now if they will go with synthesis as canon i will take my words back. :)

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isn't bioware already evil. they just wanted to give us a dystopia ending with everyone acting happy and unicorns running around,

i just want to bash synthesis, been awhile since i saw a thread that called synthesis "evil" it has been all about refuse. boring

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That's probably because the quarians had blown them up. ;)


I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

I'll laugh. :lol:

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Jamie9 wrote...

Glad to see you got informed consent to use Control. Oh wait.

Glad to see you got informed consent to use Refuse. Oh wait.

Glad to see you got informed consent to use Destroy. Oh wait.

Actually the whole point of the game was to destroy the reapers sooo :whistle:

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Taboo-XX wrote...

You only need 3100 EMS with the EC to see everything.

STOP SAYING STUPID ****.


I love that they changed that. <3

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Meta game the **** out of the series.

Get the Geth killed above Rannoch.

Destroy.

Survive.

Problem?

Modifié par Taboo-XX, 10 juillet 2012 - 01:25 .


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liggy002 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

liggy002 wrote...

Jamie9 wrote...

Glad to see you got informed consent to use Control. Oh wait.

Glad to see you got informed consent to use Refuse. Oh wait.

Glad to see you got informed consent to use Destroy. Oh wait.



You're missing the point.   Synthesis is painted as the "best" ending because you need the highest EMS to get it.

No, that's Shepard serviving destroy and Synthesis is not in the best light. Don't used the reapers forced programing as the guide to what the best ending is.


Yes, but most people will only see the Synthesis ending at first since the Shep alive scene WAS only obtainable via multiplayer and external apps.  Also, consider how the Catalyst portrays Synthesis and Control (which are both morally bankrupt and disgusting options) versus Destroy,  Destroy is painted as Renegade by Bioware.  The one option that is actually the correct thing to do is painted as Renegade.


I think its dumb for destroy to be painted as renegade, its like bioware was trying to move paragon players to the other endings, including synthesise, and wanted them to think that synthesie is the more moral ending then destroy.

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Sajuro wrote...

Jamie9 wrote...

Glad to see you got informed consent to use Control. Oh wait.

Glad to see you got informed consent to use Refuse. Oh wait.

Glad to see you got informed consent to use Destroy. Oh wait.

Actually the whole point of the game was to destroy the reapers sooo :whistle:


Again, the Geth didn't consent to being sacrificed when there is another option.

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ghost9191 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Jamie9 wrote...

ghost9191 wrote...

Jamie9 wrote...

Glad to see you got informed consent to use Control. Oh wait.

Glad to see you got informed consent to use Refuse. Oh wait.

Glad to see you got informed consent to use Destroy. Oh wait.


hey , everyone agreed to destroy

that is the one option you got consent for


I don't remember hearing the Geth say: "Please sacrifice us, EVEN if there is an option that does not require it. Just sacrifice us."

They never said to control them nor did all the organics say "Please, combine use with synthetics."


not the point, they consented to using the crucible to destroy the reapers. the s o b's should've realized that they would be targetted too. and the geth can be rebuilt. if i have to destroy 1.5 billion homicidal robots to save 13 other species then i will damns it

You're not just saving 13 species.  You're saving every species that will ever reach the stars.  EDI and the Geth are nothing compared to avenging the tens of thousands of trillions who have been killed by the Reapers over the past billion years.  The Reapers must die.

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Taboo-XX wrote...

Meta game the **** out of the series.

Get the Geth killed above Rannoch.

Destroy.

Survive.

Problem?


EDI. :crying:

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Jamie9 wrote...

Sajuro wrote...

Jamie9 wrote...

Glad to see you got informed consent to use Control. Oh wait.

Glad to see you got informed consent to use Refuse. Oh wait.

Glad to see you got informed consent to use Destroy. Oh wait.

Actually the whole point of the game was to destroy the reapers sooo :whistle:


Again, the Geth didn't consent to being sacrificed when there is another option.


THEN META GAME. ENSURE YOU CAN'T MAKE PEACE.

TOO ****ING BAD BIOWARE.

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None of the endings are really good or evil, they have both positive and negative outcomes no matter which one you choose, much like in real life, if you think you can make an only positive choice in RL without it having some sort of negative effect your fooling yourself.

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Jamie9 wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

Meta game the **** out of the series.

Get the Geth killed above Rannoch.

Destroy.

Survive.

Problem?


EDI. :crying:


Edi made her choice:devil: