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dreman9999 wrote...

Cthulhu42 wrote...

RadicalDisconnect wrote...

Cthulhu42 wrote...

ghost9191 wrote...

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THEN META GAME. ENSURE YOU CAN'T MAKE PEACE.

TOO ****ING BAD BIOWARE.


What is this... meta-gaming? My Shepards don't know how to do this. :unsure:

Meta-gaming is gaming the game (obviously).  The Geth can't be killed by Destroy if the Quarians already took care of them.  I don't know how to get rid of EDI though.


edi's response to you destroy the geth just shows how much of a machine she is.    she didn't care that siding with the geth would kill millions of innocent children. CHILDREN. she only cared that you didn't side with a synthetic race. and thinks you are racist for it

Yeah, after that conversation I felt a lot less guilty about my plan to kill her off.


If you point that out, she makes the point that the Quarian admirals are also responsible for endangering their non-combatants by arming civilian ships.

Which doesn't invalidate Shepard's point in any way. Either way, EDI came off as being overly passive-aggressive and unreasonable to me, and made it that much easier for my Shepard to not care about her inevitable demise by red space magic.

It didn't help that EDI was litterally the only person on the entire ship who had this particular opinion.

I'm sorry...The geth were to let the quarian kill them off because quarians bought there families, who are armed with weapons, to war?


simply put but yes, i will not sacrifice a childs life to save a toaster, hellz to the no

and i mean sadly i will not condemn a innocent child to death because of it's admiral

the geth sided with the reapers, they choose their side and lost, simple

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MyChemicalBromance wrote...

If you believe in Good and Evil then I suggest you go back to Power Rangers.


*Lights your collection of Nietzche's collected works on fire*

KIERKEGAARD.

KANT.

EVEN THAT **** SYMPATHIZING PIECE OF **** HEIDEGGER WAS BETTER THAN HIM.

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So I take it synthesis isn't acceptable by your conundrum of philosophy.

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me308f1cd5c wrote...

MyChemicalBromance wrote...

If you believe in Good and Evil then I suggest you go back to Power Rangers.


Didn't know the belief in good and evil is some childish old fashioned notion.


Good and evil is not a childish notion... Seeing the world in black and white is.

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dreman9999 wrote...

me308f1cd5c wrote...

MyChemicalBromance wrote...

If you believe in Good and Evil then I suggest you go back to Power Rangers.


Didn't know the belief in good and evil is some childish old fashioned notion.


Good and evil is not a childish notion... Seeing the world in black and white is.


This.

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iakus wrote...




Again, she's right in every word.

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Which doesn't invalidate Shepard's point in any way. Either way, EDI came off as being overly passive-aggressive and unreasonable to me, and made it that much easier for my Shepard to not care about her inevitable demise by red space magic.

It didn't help that EDI was litterally the only person on the entire ship who had this particular opinion.


That's because of how the two paths were treat.

If you choose to save the Geth, Shepard still tries to get the Quarians to back down.

If you choose to save the Quarians, Shepard allows the Quarians to annihilate the Geth.

This has absolutely nothing to do with anything I said.

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dreman9999 wrote...

me308f1cd5c wrote...

MyChemicalBromance wrote...

If you believe in Good and Evil then I suggest you go back to Power Rangers.


Didn't know the belief in good and evil is some childish old fashioned notion.


Good and evil is not a childish notion... Seeing the world in black and white is.


...*waits for world to explode*

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dreman9999 wrote...

me308f1cd5c wrote...

MyChemicalBromance wrote...

If you believe in Good and Evil then I suggest you go back to Power Rangers.


Didn't know the belief in good and evil is some childish old fashioned notion.


Good and evil is not a childish notion... Seeing the world in black and white is.

If you really want to know what I meant, finger my banshee.

Modifié par MyChemicalBromance, 10 juillet 2012 - 02:03 .


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dreman9999 wrote...

me308f1cd5c wrote...

MyChemicalBromance wrote...

If you believe in Good and Evil then I suggest you go back to Power Rangers.


Didn't know the belief in good and evil is some childish old fashioned notion.


Good and evil is not a childish notion... Seeing the world in black and white is.


I see in shades of grey, but very dark grey and dull white still exsist in my worldview.

That said, being an absolutist about anything seems really dumb, espically for stupid things that don't even affect you that somebody else is doing that harms nobody.

Modifié par xsdob, 10 juillet 2012 - 02:02 .


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ghost9191 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Cthulhu42 wrote...

RadicalDisconnect wrote...

Cthulhu42 wrote...

ghost9191 wrote...

hoodaticus wrote...

Jamie9 wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

THEN META GAME. ENSURE YOU CAN'T MAKE PEACE.

TOO ****ING BAD BIOWARE.


What is this... meta-gaming? My Shepards don't know how to do this. :unsure:

Meta-gaming is gaming the game (obviously).  The Geth can't be killed by Destroy if the Quarians already took care of them.  I don't know how to get rid of EDI though.


edi's response to you destroy the geth just shows how much of a machine she is.    she didn't care that siding with the geth would kill millions of innocent children. CHILDREN. she only cared that you didn't side with a synthetic race. and thinks you are racist for it

Yeah, after that conversation I felt a lot less guilty about my plan to kill her off.


If you point that out, she makes the point that the Quarian admirals are also responsible for endangering their non-combatants by arming civilian ships.

Which doesn't invalidate Shepard's point in any way. Either way, EDI came off as being overly passive-aggressive and unreasonable to me, and made it that much easier for my Shepard to not care about her inevitable demise by red space magic.

It didn't help that EDI was litterally the only person on the entire ship who had this particular opinion.

I'm sorry...The geth were to let the quarian kill them off because quarians bought there families, who are armed with weapons, to war?


simply put but yes, i will not sacrifice a childs life to save a toaster, hellz to the no

and i mean sadly i will not condemn a innocent child to death because of it's admiral

the geth sided with the reapers, they choose their side and lost, simple

Then edi has every right not to turst you .

Modifié par dreman9999, 10 juillet 2012 - 02:03 .


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Taboo-XX wrote...

MyChemicalBromance wrote...

If you believe in Good and Evil then I suggest you go back to Power Rangers.


*Lights your collection of Nietzche's collected works on fire*

KIERKEGAARD.

KANT.

EVEN THAT **** SYMPATHIZING PIECE OF **** HEIDEGGER WAS BETTER THAN HIM.


I've never read anything from any of them. You always say I'm worse than them anyway.

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mauro2222 wrote...

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Again, she's right in every word.


No she isn't.

It's emotionally manipulative writing. That's what it is.

Look at how biased the Rannoch mission are.

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mauro2222 wrote...

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Again, she's right in every word.


This made me sad.

At least I'll never have to see it. Instead I get the :wub: worthy "not many organics would trust a synthetic race." 

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Taboo-XX wrote...


No one knows what it's like

To be hated

To be fated

To telling only lies



But my dreams

They aren't as empty

As my conscience seems to be

Destroy Requires No Consent, The Geth Are The Reapers BFF's I take their oppinion like I would a husks.

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@dreman9999

hmm may have got lost in the pyramid. well either way edi doesn't have to trust my shep. i trusted her but when it came to choosing between geth or quarians(which fyi i choose peace) i would choose the quarians because of the fact they have innocent children and civilians. not because machine or organic

but i defended edi every time through me2 and me3, my point is though that she seems more pissed or whatever at the fact that i choose the quarians instead of a synthetic race, like the only reason i didn't choose the geth is because they were synthetic, but that is not the case, it is like no matter what race it was or reasons, she would prefer the geth survive even if they were the aggressors, that is just how she came off to me

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Taboo-XX wrote...

mauro2222 wrote...

iakus wrote...




Again, she's right in every word.


No she isn't.

It's emotionally manipulative writing. That's what it is.

Look at how biased the Rannoch mission are.



Biesed...It the quarians that forced the entire conflict. How can something that's true be biased. Who broght there child to the conflict? The quarians. Who armed there lives ships? The quarians. Not even the majority of the quarians  wanted this war, it was the admerals.  How is it biesed at all?

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dreman9999 wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

mauro2222 wrote...

iakus wrote...




Again, she's right in every word.


No she isn't.

It's emotionally manipulative writing. That's what it is.

Look at how biased the Rannoch mission are.



Biesed...It the quarians that forced the entire conflict. How can something that's true be biased. Who broght there child to the conflict? The quarians. Who armed there lives ships? The quarians. Not even the majority of the quarians  wanted this war, it was the admerals.  How is it biesed at all?


No opinion from the Qurians. We are presented only with tidbits of information of the Geth.

Manipulative writing.

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@dreman9999

hmm may have got lost in the pyramid. well either way edi doesn't have to trust my shep. i trusted her but when it came to choosing between geth or quarians(which fyi i choose peace) i would choose the quarians because of the fact they have innocent children and civilians. not because machine or organic

but i defended edi every time through me2 and me3, my point is though that she seems more pissed or whatever at the fact that i choose the quarians instead of a synthetic race, like the only reason i didn't choose the geth is because they were synthetic, but that is not the case, it is like no matter what race it was or reasons, she would prefer the geth survive even if they were the aggressors, that is just how she came off to me

The problem is you failed to see that the geth are innocent as well. Just as innocent as the families being force in this war.

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Taboo-XX wrote...

mauro2222 wrote...

iakus wrote...




Again, she's right in every word.


No she isn't.

It's emotionally manipulative writing. That's what it is.

Look at how biased the Rannoch mission are.


She IS right. The only reason I see to pick the Quarians is because they are organics. You warn them, but they still continue to fight, even when Koris could have taken the entire civilian fleet out of the battlefield and cry "We surrender".

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...Rannoch really didn't improve my views of Quarian intelligence. At all.

If anything during a Reaper invasion would be a good time to ask the Geth for aid. If they refuse? Fine go to war like morons but at least ask first. They know Tali has interaction with the Geth and if you brought Legion aboard they know there's a non-hostile geth. Send Geth sympathizers to Rannoch and see if anything can be worked out. Have a test run. Only send expendable people if you're that worried about Geth treachery.

Nope. Can't do that. Instead KILL THEM ALL! EVEN IF WE HAVE TO THROW GUNS ON OUR KIDS BUSES AND MAKE THEM TARGETS! EVEN IF THIS MAKES US MORE VULNERABLE TO THE REAPERS!

Darwin Award material.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 10 juillet 2012 - 02:11 .


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 OP, Bryce Harper has something to say to you

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It is emotionally manipulative. Look at her response if the Quarians are killed. There is a clear bias involved.

CLEAR.

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Taboo-XX wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

mauro2222 wrote...

iakus wrote...




Again, she's right in every word.


No she isn't.

It's emotionally manipulative writing. That's what it is.

Look at how biased the Rannoch mission are.



Biesed...It the quarians that forced the entire conflict. How can something that's true be biased. Who broght there child to the conflict? The quarians. Who armed there lives ships? The quarians. Not even the majority of the quarians  wanted this war, it was the admerals.  How is it biesed at all?


No opinion from the Qurians. We are presented only with tidbits of information of the Geth.

Manipulative writing.

We had 2 game wurth of opinions from the quaian add that the civilans of the quarians, the majority, did not want this war. This was stated over and overagain. If you want to be angry at anyone for this, it's the admerals.