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[Taboo]

dreman9999 wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

But it's the true. How is a machine gong to have the same morals of an organic? To a mchine, synthetic life and orgainc life is equal. Yet, when she brings this up, she suddenly is biesed?

For the last goddamn time.

THE PEOPLE WHO WROTE IT MADE IT BIASED.

PAY ATTENTION.

No they didn't make it bieased at all.
Let look at this..


In terms of innocence the geth and quarian fammilies are equal. But if you expline that you did it to save the lives of children, it put shepard in a stateof valuing organics over synthetics. Even if both sides are equally innocent.

And he favors Synthetics over Organics in the other one?

It's a crock of horse ****.

[Jamie9]

ghost9191 wrote...

yeah well if it is death or working with a enemy like the reapers, i would hope ppl would choose the former. knowing what they do and what they will do if you help , would think that would make ppl say f off

Well, we all say "we'd rather be dead than enslaved". It's a noble ideal. But imagine if all the slaves 1950s and back had killed themselves. That would have been BAD. Especially since many of them were freed.

[ghost9191]

well i still believe that ppl will help others in time of need , but might not be that way

but i was talking about meuniverse not real life

the only race that willingly went to the reapers in me3 was the geth, others had to be indoctrinated. forced to work for them

[SetecAstronomy]

This thread reminds me of another thread.

[dreman9999]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

Jamie9 wrote...

ghost9191 wrote...

the geth knew more about the reapers then anyone else, they choose to join the reapers instead of fighting, others fight instead of joining reapers, unless they are forced. the reapers were asking ppl to surrender and turn ppl over that were planning to escape, and no one did, even if it meant their life. so i do believe that 98% of ppl would not side with the reapers to save their own lives

I meant people in real life.

Never underestimate the human will to survive.

EDI's story about the humans in Reaper concentration camps disproves your assertion.

That beacue we know we would die by jining them. That's not the same with the geth. The point is, If your backed to a corner, is it wrong for you to do anythin gyou can to live. It was not eeven the geths fault for being backed to the corner.

[Ryzaki]

Legion had a soul and was alive.

*** that Synthesis BS. **** it to hell.

[dreman9999]

ghost9191 wrote...

well i still believe that ppl will help others in time of need , but might not be that way

but i was talking about meuniverse not real life

the only race that willingly went to the reapers in me3 was the geth, others had to be indoctrinated. forced to work for them

In WW2 many people helped hide Jews but when they were threaten with the death of there family if they did not turn them over, they did.
Empathy is a double bladed sword in war.

[Jamie9]

The amount of times EDI declares she's alive almost outnumbers Jonny-5 in "Short Circuit."

It's 3 times as bad as Anderson being born in London.

[ghost9191]

dreman9999 wrote...

Cthulhu42 wrote...

Jamie9 wrote...

ghost9191 wrote...

the geth knew more about the reapers then anyone else, they choose to join the reapers instead of fighting, others fight instead of joining reapers, unless they are forced. the reapers were asking ppl to surrender and turn ppl over that were planning to escape, and no one did, even if it meant their life. so i do believe that 98% of ppl would not side with the reapers to save their own lives

I meant people in real life.

Never underestimate the human will to survive.

EDI's story about the humans in Reaper concentration camps disproves your assertion.

That beacue we know we would die by jining them. That's not the same with the geth. The point is, If your backed to a corner, is it wrong for you to do anythin gyou can to live. It was not eeven the geths fault for being backed to the corner.

1 as edi said ppl would live longer if they helped the reapers, which they didn't

2 the geth knew they would be used as tools and hurt others for the reapers and yet tehy still sided with the reapers, rather then requesting aid from shepard . they could've just gave up the homeworld and left system. but they choose to stay and align with the reapers

[Jamie9]

Ryzaki wrote...

Legion had a soul and was alive.

*** that Synthesis BS. **** it to hell.

Of course Legion and EDI were alive. But they didn't have impulses. Emotional impulses.

Synthesis adds that option for synthetics.

[dreman9999]

Taboo-XX wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

But it's the true. How is a machine gong to have the same morals of an organic? To a mchine, synthetic life and orgainc life is equal. Yet, when she brings this up, she suddenly is biesed?

For the last goddamn time.

THE PEOPLE WHO WROTE IT MADE IT BIASED.

PAY ATTENTION.

No they didn't make it bieased at all.
Let look at this..


In terms of innocence the geth and quarian fammilies are equal. But if you expline that you did it to save the lives of children, it put shepard in a stateof valuing organics over synthetics. Even if both sides are equally innocent.

And he favors Synthetics over Organics in the other one?

It's a crock of horse ****.

But in this case how is the more wrong? Is it the quarian to force the war or the geth for defening themselves.

[Jamie9]

ghost9191 wrote...

1 as edi said ppl would live longer if they helped the reapers, which they didn't

2 the geth knew they would be used as tools and hurt others for the reapers and yet tehy still sided with the reapers, rather then requesting aid from shepard . they could've just gave up the homeworld and left system. but they choose to stay and align with the reapers

Millions of Geth were killed in the Dyson Sphere in the inital Quarian attack. Their intelligence decreased to the point where all they could do was act on survival.

[ghost9191]

Jamie9 wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Legion had a soul and was alive.

*** that Synthesis BS. **** it to hell.

Of course Legion and EDI were alive. But they didn't have impulses. Emotional impulses.

Synthesis adds that option for synthetics.

well if you love synthesis so much why don't you marry it?

or choose it


man it has been awhile since i have said that:?

[dreman9999]

Jamie9 wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Legion had a soul and was alive.

*** that Synthesis BS. **** it to hell.

Of course Legion and EDI were alive. But they didn't have impulses. Emotional impulses.

Synthesis adds that option for synthetics.

No, you mean natural instictive impulses. They did have emotional impulses. If you choose to destroy the geth , you'll see Legions.

[Taboo]

dreman9999 wrote...

But in this case how is the more wrong? Is it the quarian to force the war or the geth for defening themselves.

They are both wrong. Equally. But the way it is written makes it appear that choosing the Qurians over the Geth is worse.

[ghost9191]

dreman9999 wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

But it's the true. How is a machine gong to have the same morals of an organic? To a mchine, synthetic life and orgainc life is equal. Yet, when she brings this up, she suddenly is biesed?

For the last goddamn time.

THE PEOPLE WHO WROTE IT MADE IT BIASED.

PAY ATTENTION.

No they didn't make it bieased at all.
Let look at this..


In terms of innocence the geth and quarian fammilies are equal. But if you expline that you did it to save the lives of children, it put shepard in a stateof valuing organics over synthetics. Even if both sides are equally innocent.

And he favors Synthetics over Organics in the other one?

It's a crock of horse ****.

But in this case how is the more wrong? Is it the quarian to force the war or the geth for defening themselves.

the geth defending themselves duh

how dare they have a right to self defense:devil:

[Jamie9]

ghost9191 wrote...

well if you love synthesis so much why don't you marry it?

or choose it

man it has been awhile since i have said that:?

...

There's a reason it's been a while. It should never be spoken by anyone over the age of... 6 or 9 depending on maturity.

Please. Never say it again.

DISCLAIMER: I do not condone ridding any human of the freedom of speech and the freedom of thought and expression. If you really wish to repeat this, please do so.

[dreman9999]

ghost9191 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Cthulhu42 wrote...

Jamie9 wrote...

ghost9191 wrote...

the geth knew more about the reapers then anyone else, they choose to join the reapers instead of fighting, others fight instead of joining reapers, unless they are forced. the reapers were asking ppl to surrender and turn ppl over that were planning to escape, and no one did, even if it meant their life. so i do believe that 98% of ppl would not side with the reapers to save their own lives

I meant people in real life.

Never underestimate the human will to survive.

EDI's story about the humans in Reaper concentration camps disproves your assertion.

That beacue we know we would die by jining them. That's not the same with the geth. The point is, If your backed to a corner, is it wrong for you to do anythin gyou can to live. It was not eeven the geths fault for being backed to the corner.

1 as edi said ppl would live longer if they helped the reapers, which they didn't

2 the geth knew they would be used as tools and hurt others for the reapers and yet tehy still sided with the reapers, rather then requesting aid from shepard . they could've just gave up the homeworld and left system. but they choose to stay and align with the reapers

But if you were in this case, you would pick just to die, even if your not a fault?

[Jamie9]

dreman9999 wrote...

No, you mean natural instictive impulses. They did have emotional impulses. If you choose to destroy the geth , you'll see Legions.

Nope, that was the survival instinct. And Legion added that to his programming. All "instincts" and "desires" in synthetics are done by themselves, by altering their code. EDI shows this in ME3. And it makes basic sense any way.

[dreman9999]

Taboo-XX wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

But in this case how is the more wrong? Is it the quarian to force the war or the geth for defening themselves.

They are both wrong. Equally. But the way it is written makes it appear that choosing the Qurians over the Geth is worse.

How is the geth equally wrong? In which way is trying to live when some one is trying to kill you wrong?