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Bioware is completely out of touch with their fanbase.


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darkiddd

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I just can't understand many decisions they have taken since DA2. And after Mass Effect 3 and its ending they proved DA2 wasn't an isolated case but a tendency.

-How couldn't they aticipate the original ending was bad in every way? No closure, no choice, no aswers, no sense of accomplishment, no impact, no differences, and so many plot holes...

-How could they underestimate so much the massive negative impact this would have amongst the fans? How could they think their rushed and bad written ending was good or would go unnoticed?

-How couldn't they realize their prompt to buy more dlc content after the poor ending was a slap to the face to the fans and would enrage even more? I mean... seriously? 

-Why in the last moment of the game they didn't go for indoctrination when there's so much evidence during the game that there was actually indoctrination? the dreams, you and the boy burning together in one of them, the signs of caution near the boy, and so many more... It's evident it wasn't just stress but at some point of development they thought indoctrination wouldn't be good when it was actually a mind blowing addition to the story (if after that we had faced the reapers one last time)

-Why didn't they delete the indoctrination hints during the game if they considered (mistakenly) indoctrination wouldn't be good in the last moments of the game? why maintain it but not go entirely for it adding more confusion to the horrible ending? 

-Why didn't they take more time with the EC, which was their last saving grace to save the series? Why only retcon everything poorly with some new scenes and changing a bit others? Why not change the ending? Or go for the indoctrination theory? Or add cut conversations that were mind blowing like this one in the EC:   

-Why are they so smug and prideful to maintain their statements and their half assed ending (retconning everything) and not even include the previous conversation when the vast majority of the community wanted it on the new content? Why not admit they did an epic fail in the histoy of video games? (a fail even bigger than Deception and oh boy... that was a very big fail... by the way where's the fix they promised?)

-Why include a reject option in the EC only to lose no matter your EMS? You don't like our endings? SO BE IT! Another slap to the face...

-Why did Gamble say they couldn't anticipate how much the fans wanted closure? Really? After 90+ hours you couldn't imagine we would want closure? But of course he lied, they knew and still they didn't give what we wanted. Were they rushed? Were they tired? Were they so blind and lacked so much common sense when they wrote the ending? I don't know but what they ended up doing was just :unsure:

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DEATHSCOPE

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One word. Money.

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Someone here doesn't understand what a cut is.

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DEATHSCOPE wrote...

One word. Money.

Because the EC really raked in the cash right?

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This will end poorly.

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DEATHSCOPE

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Atakuma wrote...

DEATHSCOPE wrote...

One word. Money.

Because the EC really raked in the cash right?

Actually, it's because it didn't, that's why it sucked. All the endings sucked.

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Blame EA. They don't want you to think about what's going on. Consider the ending a weeding out process, now that they've fractured the fanbase they can focus on ME4 aka Call of Duty in space.

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Well, not being in touch with most poeple here is a good thing in my books.

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Revthejedi wrote...

Blame EA. They don't want you to think about what's going on. Consider the ending a weeding out process, now that they've fractured the fanbase they can focus on ME4 aka Call of Duty in space.

They didn't beat COD with BF3. They're not stupid enough to try it with the ME franchise. Really, any game company is better off waiting until COD dies off than trying to beat it.

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D24O wrote...

Revthejedi wrote...

Blame EA. They don't want you to think about what's going on. Consider the ending a weeding out process, now that they've fractured the fanbase they can focus on ME4 aka Call of Duty in space.

They didn't beat COD with BF3. They're not stupid enough to try it with the ME franchise. Really, any game company is better off waiting until COD dies off than trying to beat it.


if younger kids wasn't buying CoD now, it wouldn't been over after BO pissed people off

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DEATHSCOPE wrote...

Atakuma wrote...

DEATHSCOPE wrote...

One word. Money.

Because the EC really raked in the cash right?

Actually, it's because it didn't, that's why it sucked. All the endings sucked.

Why did the new endings suck?

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D24O wrote...

Revthejedi wrote...

Blame EA. They don't want you to think about what's going on. Consider the ending a weeding out process, now that they've fractured the fanbase they can focus on ME4 aka Call of Duty in space.

They didn't beat COD with BF3. They're not stupid enough to try it with the ME franchise. Really, any game company is better off waiting until COD dies off than trying to beat it.

Black Ops 2 will be the death of it. COD will go dormant for maybe about 5 years or so, and then will probably resurface again to bring stupidity back into the first person genre.

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Taboo-XX wrote...

Someone here doesn't understand what a cut is.


Well, if you're talking about the OP, then add one for me.  That makes two.

Modifié par blue water, 10 juillet 2012 - 01:29 .


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darkiddd wrote...

indoctrination


:?

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DEATHSCOPE

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dreman9999 wrote...

DEATHSCOPE wrote...

Atakuma wrote...

DEATHSCOPE wrote...

One word. Money.

Because the EC really raked in the cash right?

Actually, it's because it didn't, that's why it sucked. All the endings sucked.

Why did the new endings suck?

Because of plot holes, both old and new.

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Nevermind

Modifié par Atakuma, 10 juillet 2012 - 01:33 .


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Revthejedi

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D24O wrote...

Revthejedi wrote...

Blame EA. They don't want you to think about what's going on. Consider the ending a weeding out process, now that they've fractured the fanbase they can focus on ME4 aka Call of Duty in space.

They didn't beat COD with BF3. They're not stupid enough to try it with the ME franchise. Really, any game company is better off waiting until COD dies off than trying to beat it.


I was being facetious, though I do blame EA for most of the problems I have with the trilogy. I think its apparent they want ME to appeal to the CoD/GoW players out there. 

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Tigerman123 wrote...

darkiddd wrote...

indoctrination


:?


Please read everything. I'm not bothered because there wasn't indoctrination, that's one of the reasons and I would have been fine if the ending had been good. There's a thousand more reasons that prove they just failed pre and post EC and many solutions they could have taken if they had swallowed their pride.

Modifié par darkiddd, 10 juillet 2012 - 01:34 .


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I blame EA for virtually everything, what ever Bioware screws up I automatically assume somehow EA is putting their snotty noses where it shouldn't be.

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dreman9999 wrote...

DEATHSCOPE wrote...

Atakuma wrote...

DEATHSCOPE wrote...

One word. Money.

Because the EC really raked in the cash right?

Actually, it's because it didn't, that's why it sucked. All the endings sucked.

Why did the new endings suck?

Because he is extremely butt hurt that the magic crucible didn't shoot a giant rainbow blast that killed the reapers, repaired all the damage, brought back all dead people and sent Shepard directly to his LI 

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Revthejedi wrote...
I was being facetious, though I do blame EA for most of the problems I have with the trilogy. I think its apparent they want ME to appeal to the CoD/GoW players out there. 

I do hope they don't push the franchise much farther in that direction.

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You keep going on about IDT, they were never going to use that fan fiction to tell their story. For multiple reasons including IDT also had plot holes and more importantly you would still be left with no ending since IDT was not an ending it merely pretended never happened so they would have had to make entire new ending anyways with IDT. Anyways thanks for your opinion but I am pretty sure this thread will get locked soon due to the rather insulting way phrased many of your points.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 10 juillet 2012 - 01:38 .


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D24O wrote...

Revthejedi wrote...
I was being facetious, though I do blame EA for most of the problems I have with the trilogy. I think its apparent they want ME to appeal to the CoD/GoW players out there. 

I do hope they don't push the franchise much farther in that direction.


well did say they were planning more Mass Effect in the future

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SNascimento wrote...

Well, not being in touch with most poeple here is a good thing in my books.


This.

As most of the people in this forum proved during the 'retaker' crap, Bioware fans are so out of touch with themselves I wouldn't trust a word of what they say they actuallly want.

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Consider that if Bioware is out of touch with the fanbase, could it be because the fanbase is out of touch with them? Or even worse, out of touch with reality? I don't think this is entirely the fault of the developer and publisher. The consumer is not blameless.