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[The Night Mammoth]

maaaze wrote...

The Night Mammoth wrote...

maaaze wrote...

It maybe the same wavelenght but there is no way of finding out if it is interpreted the same way in every Brain...Everything is interpreted by our brain...the wavelenght you assign blue to it ...can be assigned with the color red by me ....we know the brain can be tricked or be inaccurate or simply being false...that´s were perspective comes into play....

But we know that people without a defect see the colour as blue. 

People WITH the defect see it as red. 

The people WITh the defect are effectively broken in some capacity. 

no...we know that the people assign colors to a wavelenght...and that the wavelenght remain consistant...but we don´t know if the colors assigned ...which creates the mental image... are the same in every brain...

Except we do, because when people don't see the same color they have a proven defect. 

But this is a massive tangent. 

[GreyLycanTrope]

dreman9999 wrote...

Greylycantrope wrote...

maaaze wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

maaaze wrote...

Science is always challanged as it should...nothing is fact...it is just very likly...

I'm trying very hard not to insult your intelligence. Please don't tempt me. I hope, for your sake, that you see how stupid you sound right now.

and hey I can just say strawman and appear to have a point...LOOK at me ...I am argueing...strawman ...hahaha...what a good point...

I dare you...try me...if you really think anything can be 100% proven...you are very naive..

Humans need oxygen to live, fact. Go ahead try and hold your breath to disprove it. I can wait.

No we don't. We need lots of other elements in the atmosphere to live. If was just oxygen then we could  in water. Also, irocily pure oxygen in high dosies is poisonous.

http://en.wikipedia....Oxygen_toxicity

Oh please, saying we need elements in addition to it disproves nothing. Oxygen is still needed. Too much of any of the required elements can kill you but the case of oxygen toxicity it's a matter of the partial pressure changing from what we are used to. You don't stop oxygen toxicity by not breathing in oxygen, you stop it by adjusting oxygen pressure.

Modifié par Greylycantrope, 12 juillet 2012 - 07:50 .

[Mazebook]

Greylycantrope wrote...

maaaze wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

maaaze wrote...

Science is always challanged as it should...nothing is fact...it is just very likly...

I'm trying very hard not to insult your intelligence. Please don't tempt me. I hope, for your sake, that you see how stupid you sound right now.

and hey I can just say strawman and appear to have a point...LOOK at me ...I am argueing...strawman ...hahaha...what a good point...

I dare you...try me...if you really think anything can be 100% proven...you are very naive..

Humans need oxygen to live, fact. Go ahead try and hold your breath indefinitely to disprove it. I can wait.

It is very very likly that humans need Oxygene to survive...but it is also possible (even tough very unlikly) that it is not actually oxygene that we need...but an unknown factor that happens to coexist with oxygen...

[The Night Mammoth]

maaaze wrote...

It is very very likly that humans need Oxygene to survive...but it is also possible (even tough very unlikly) that it is not actually oxygene that we need...but an unknown factor that happens to coexist with oxygen...

Nah. 

It's oxygen. You literally have no proof that it's anything else, so anything you say is irrelevant. 

[Mazebook]

The Night Mammoth wrote...

maaaze wrote...

The Night Mammoth wrote...

maaaze wrote...

It maybe the same wavelenght but there is no way of finding out if it is interpreted the same way in every Brain...Everything is interpreted by our brain...the wavelenght you assign blue to it ...can be assigned with the color red by me ....we know the brain can be tricked or be inaccurate or simply being false...that´s were perspective comes into play....

But we know that people without a defect see the colour as blue. 

People WITH the defect see it as red. 

The people WITh the defect are effectively broken in some capacity. 

no...we know that the people assign colors to a wavelenght...and that the wavelenght remain consistant...but we don´t know if the colors assigned ...which creates the mental image... are the same in every brain...

Except we do, because when people don't see the same color they have a proven defect. 

But this is a massive tangent. 

you are right it is a tanget...just to make my last point on this... the defect corronsponse with the fixed wavelenght...not the mental image of the color assigned...

[o Ventus]

maaaze wrote...

Greylycantrope wrote...

maaaze wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

maaaze wrote...

Science is always challanged as it should...nothing is fact...it is just very likly...

I'm trying very hard not to insult your intelligence. Please don't tempt me. I hope, for your sake, that you see how stupid you sound right now.

and hey I can just say strawman and appear to have a point...LOOK at me ...I am argueing...strawman ...hahaha...what a good point...

I dare you...try me...if you really think anything can be 100% proven...you are very naive..

Humans need oxygen to live, fact. Go ahead try and hold your breath indefinitely to disprove it. I can wait.

It is very very likly that humans need Oxygene to survive...but it is also possible (even tough very unlikly) that it is not actually oxygene that we need...but an unknown factor that happens to coexist with oxygen...

Our atmosphere is nitrogen and oxygen. Try breathing pure nitrogen and see how long you live.

[The Night Mammoth]

maaaze wrote...
you are right it is a tanget...just to make my last point on this... the defect corronsponse with the fixed wavelenght...not the mental image of the color assigned...

It causes the eye, and thus brain, to perceive the wavelength differently.

[GreyLycanTrope]

maaaze wrote...
It is very very likly that humans need Oxygene to survive...but it is also possible (even tough very unlikly) that it is not actually oxygene that we need...but an unknown factor that happens to coexist with oxygen...

I could show you biological and medical studies that prove otherwise, but if you're just going to shrug your shoulders and claim coincidence due to unknown factor I won't bother.

Modifié par Greylycantrope, 12 juillet 2012 - 08:05 .

[Mazebook]

The Night Mammoth wrote...

maaaze wrote...

It is very very likly that humans need Oxygene to survive...but it is also possible (even tough very unlikly) that it is not actually oxygene that we need...but an unknown factor that happens to coexist with oxygen...

Nah. 

It's oxygen. You literally have no proof that it's anything else, so anything you say is irrelevant. 

so  you say ...but can you disprove me...that this is 100% not the case ?...like i said ...it is very very likly that we need Oxygene...but absolutly nothing is 100% for sure...

[GreyLycanTrope]

maaaze wrote...

The Night Mammoth wrote...

maaaze wrote...

It is very very likly that humans need Oxygene to survive...but it is also possible (even tough very unlikly) that it is not actually oxygene that we need...but an unknown factor that happens to coexist with oxygen...

Nah. 

It's oxygen. You literally have no proof that it's anything else, so anything you say is irrelevant. 

so  you say ...but can you disprove me...that this is 100% not the case ?...like i said ...it is very very likly that we need Oxygene...but absolutly nothing is 100% for sure...

As I said feel free to hold your breath.

[Mazebook]

Greylycantrope wrote...

maaaze wrote...
It is very very likly that humans need Oxygene to survive...but it is also possible (even tough very unlikly) that it is not actually oxygene that we need...but an unknown factor that happens to coexist with oxygen...

I could show you biological and medical studies that prove otherwise, but if you're just going to shrug your shoulders and claim coincidence due to unknown factor I won't bother.

thats the point...it is a matter of perspective and a matter of models we build to relate to something that is out of our perspective by default.

[mauro2222]

maaaze wrote...

so  you say ...but can you disprove me...that this is 100% not the case ?...like i said ...it is very very likly that we need Oxygene...but absolutly nothing is 100% for sure...

Is not likely, it's a fact. Your cells need oxygen, otherwise, you die.

You can live by inhaling 100% oxygen. The only problem is that it's too dry, you need humidity.

And no, your lungs don't absorb water.

Modifié par mauro2222, 12 juillet 2012 - 08:13 .

[Mazebook]

Greylycantrope wrote...

maaaze wrote...

The Night Mammoth wrote...

maaaze wrote...

It is very very likly that humans need Oxygene to survive...but it is also possible (even tough very unlikly) that it is not actually oxygene that we need...but an unknown factor that happens to coexist with oxygen...

Nah. 

It's oxygen. You literally have no proof that it's anything else, so anything you say is irrelevant. 

so  you say ...but can you disprove me...that this is 100% not the case ?...like i said ...it is very very likly that we need Oxygene...but absolutly nothing is 100% for sure...

As I said feel free to hold your breath.

like i said...it could be that it is not actually oxygene i am refuse to breath...it could be an unknown aspect that coexists with oxygene...even tough very unlikly...

[The Night Mammoth]

maaaze wrote...

The Night Mammoth wrote...

maaaze wrote...

It is very very likly that humans need Oxygene to survive...but it is also possible (even tough very unlikly) that it is not actually oxygene that we need...but an unknown factor that happens to coexist with oxygen...

Nah. 

It's oxygen. You literally have no proof that it's anything else, so anything you say is irrelevant. 

so  you say ...but can you disprove me...that this is 100% not the case ?...like i said ...it is very very likly that we need Oxygene...but absolutly nothing is 100% for sure...

LOGIC......




GOOD NIGHT. 

Modifié par The Night Mammoth, 12 juillet 2012 - 08:12 .

[o Ventus]

maaaze wrote...

like i said...it could be that it is not actually oxygene i am refuse to breath...it could be an unknown aspect that coexists with oxygene...even tough very unlikly...

Like I said. Our atmosphere is nitrogen and oxygen. You go breathe pure nitrogen and tell me how long you lived.

[Mazebook]

mauro2222 wrote...

maaaze wrote...

so  you say ...but can you disprove me...that this is 100% not the case ?...like i said ...it is very very likly that we need Oxygene...but absolutly nothing is 100% for sure...

Is not likely, it's a fact. Your cells need oxygen, otherwise, you die.

thats a model we build to understand a part of our existance...but it is just a model...a very accurate one...

you have seen many models of atoms...but none of them are 100% correct or fact.

[Baronesa]

maaaze wrote...

so  you say ...but can you disprove me...that this is 100% not the case ?...like i said ...it is very very likly that we need Oxygene...but absolutly nothing is 100% for sure...

I don't even...

[Mazebook]

o Ventus wrote...

maaaze wrote...

like i said...it could be that it is not actually oxygene i am refuse to breath...it could be an unknown aspect that coexists with oxygene...even tough very unlikly...

Like I said. Our atmosphere is nitrogen and oxygen. You go breathe pure nitrogen and tell me how long you lived.

It is much more than that...

have you ever heard of dark matter...?

[o Ventus]

maaaze wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

maaaze wrote...

like i said...it could be that it is not actually oxygene i am refuse to breath...it could be an unknown aspect that coexists with oxygene...even tough very unlikly...

Like I said. Our atmosphere is nitrogen and oxygen. You go breathe pure nitrogen and tell me how long you lived.

It is much more than that...

have you ever heard of dark matter...?

The hell does dark matter have to do with nitrogen and oxygen?

Do you have any idea yourself what you're talking about?

Modifié par o Ventus, 12 juillet 2012 - 08:24 .

[Baronesa]

Maaaze is just making an art-form of grasping at emergency induction ports

[Applepie_Svk]

Baronesa wrote...

Maaaze is just making an art-form of grasping at emergency induction ports

And he is refusing to believe that he was successfuly indoctrinated...

[Grimwick]

maaaze wrote...

Grimwick wrote...

maaaze wrote...

Grimwick wrote...
This isn't proof...

For me to be able to have 100% prove...there would have to be no you and me...so yeah...

THIS IS EXACTLY THE POINT.

Looks like we have all agreed then. You don't have proof and neither does the SC.

ARRRRRRGH...sorry but i think you lack the mental capacity for this ...[EDIT removed]

Very ironic. At least I have the decency to make a coherent argument.

there is no 100% prove for anything...anything in life...everyting is just very likly or very unlikly....so there can be never 100% prove.

If you start going into the realms of epistemology in order to justify your actions you have messed up.

...i recommand you read Stephan Hawkings "The Great Design" it will blow your mind what we can and can not prove or assume...

Nice way to dodge the point.

i am done with you...this is getting to stupid.

Indeed it is. Indeed it is...

[Grimwick]

o Ventus wrote...

maaaze wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

maaaze wrote...

like i said...it could be that it is not actually oxygene i am refuse to breath...it could be an unknown aspect that coexists with oxygene...even tough very unlikly...

Like I said. Our atmosphere is nitrogen and oxygen. You go breathe pure nitrogen and tell me how long you lived.

It is much more than that...

have you ever heard of dark matter...?

The hell does dark matter have to do with nitrogen and oxygen?

Do you have any idea yourself what you're talking about?

Remember, this is the person who called the Higg's boson 'magic'.

[Mazebook]

o Ventus wrote...

maaaze wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

maaaze wrote...

like i said...it could be that it is not actually oxygene i am refuse to breath...it could be an unknown aspect that coexists with oxygene...even tough very unlikly...

Like I said. Our atmosphere is nitrogen and oxygen. You go breathe pure nitrogen and tell me how long you lived.

It is much more than that...

have you ever heard of dark matter...?

The hell does dark matter have to do with nitrogen and oxygen?

Do you have any idea yourself what you're talking about?

It means that we have so many things in our model of our Universe that are unknown or contradictionary...that we have to invent something that is undetactible to make sense of it...

ergo all existing models are not 100% accurate...nothing can be 100% fact.

[Mazebook]

Grimwick wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

maaaze wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

maaaze wrote...

like i said...it could be that it is not actually oxygene i am refuse to breath...it could be an unknown aspect that coexists with oxygene...even tough very unlikly...

Like I said. Our atmosphere is nitrogen and oxygen. You go breathe pure nitrogen and tell me how long you lived.

It is much more than that...

have you ever heard of dark matter...?

The hell does dark matter have to do with nitrogen and oxygen?

Do you have any idea yourself what you're talking about?

Remember, this is the person who called the Higg's boson 'magic'.

what are you talking about?

Modifié par maaaze, 12 juillet 2012 - 08:31 .