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[KILTEDxSCOTSMAN]

Ok I understand the community goal was not clear. But really what is the difference between knowing you need a full extraction and not knowing?? Dont you go for a full extraction in every game you play?
I know I do, even on gold so whats the big deal? Solo is also still a full extraction.

[madmaxmovies]

JohnDoe wrote...
each pack increases one of the  the medigel, rockets or ops packs. up to 5 of each one.

the community thing was supposed to increase it to 6.

Remembering that in the original version of the game, they could go up to 9, and it was restricted to 5 in an "update". Anyone that played a lot and bought lots of packs early (basically the players with the highest ratings that you see), got to keep that.

So I'm betting a bunch of those higher experienced players didn't participate in this event for that reason either, as this reward has no value to them.

[JohnDoe]

KILTEDxSCOTSMAN wrote...

Ok I understand the community goal was not clear. But really what is the difference between knowing you need a full extraction and not knowing?? Dont you go for a full extraction in every game you play?
I know I do, even on gold so whats the big deal? Solo is also still a full extraction.

the difference is the number of people playing gold and getting the victory pack.
I played on gold .. we got 3 rescued.. (teammate got sniped by marauder in the last second)
and I tought " well that was a job well done"
2 days after.. they come with the update of "full extraction".
there is a huge difference since there is no room for errors.

madmaxmovies wrote...



Remembering
that in the original version of the game, they could go up to 9, and it
was restricted to 5 in an "update". Anyone that played a lot and bought
lots of packs early (basically the players with the highest ratings
that you see), got to keep that.

So I'm betting a bunch of those
higher experienced players didn't participate in this event for that
reason either, as this reward has no value to them.

Maybe they could get it up to 10.

Modifié par JohnDoe, 18 juillet 2012 - 07:05 .

[KILTEDxSCOTSMAN]

I played gold twice right off that bat and got 2 full extractions. The squad goal doesn't need to be Full. Only the community goal. So in that match where 1 player got sniped. What would you have done differently if you knew it needed to be Full extraction?

[Rifneno]

KILTEDxSCOTSMAN wrote...

Ok I understand the community goal was not clear. But really what is the difference between knowing you need a full extraction and not knowing?? Dont you go for a full extraction in every game you play?
I know I do, even on gold so whats the big deal? Solo is also still a full extraction.

Because people don't waste expendables on wave 11 usually?  If you're doing it for the community goal and you get downed, you probably won't waste a medi-gel unless you're warned that not doing so means the last 20 minutes was for nothing.
Not to mention magnet hands.  God, the magnet hands.

[JohnDoe]

Rifneno wrote...

KILTEDxSCOTSMAN wrote...

Ok I understand the community goal was not clear. But really what is the difference between knowing you need a full extraction and not knowing?? Dont you go for a full extraction in every game you play?
I know I do, even on gold so whats the big deal? Solo is also still a full extraction.

Because people don't waste expendables on wave 11 usually?  If you're doing it for the community goal and you get downed, you probably won't waste a medi-gel unless you're warned that not doing so means the last 20 minutes was for nothing.
Not to mention magnet hands.  God, the magnet hands.

you got clowned by the banshee extendable arms too?

Rifneno wrote...

KILTEDxSCOTSMAN wrote...

Ok
I understand the community goal was not clear. But really what is the
difference between knowing you need a full extraction and not knowing??
Dont you go for a full extraction in every game you play?
I know I do, even on gold so whats the big deal? Solo is also still a full extraction.

Because
people don't waste expendables on wave 11 usually?  If you're doing it
for the community goal and you get downed, you probably won't waste a
medi-gel unless you're warned that not doing so means the last 20
minutes was for nothing.
Not to mention magnet hands.  God, the magnet hands.

correct, people wont play as hard if they think they can get the whole thing witouth all alive.

Modifié par JohnDoe, 18 juillet 2012 - 07:11 .

[KILTEDxSCOTSMAN]

So what your basically saying is, let me quote "people don't waste expendables on wave 11" That statement right there if your talking about the majority says that they are selfish. Your telling me that you wouldn't get yourself up for a full extraction for someone for the xp even if you didn't need it just because you dont want to spend 1 medigel that you can get 5 anytime you want after game of silver+

[TweedleDee66]

ntrisley wrote...

Some kind of benefit beside the Victory Pack needs to be added to these weekends to encourage people to quit being gits and cease the credit farming.

Having a "flag" on your account which gives you a free Premium Spectre Pack for every three matches you participate in meeting the criteria of the event would get people involved.
Having Victory Packs include a hefty chunk of credits would get people involved.
Having the Community Goal being met resulting in an across the board 25% discount in the store for the next week would get people involved.

Something needs to be done.
For starters set up the Squad Goal so everyone can do it. Even if its something like this to do it:

1 Platinum Goal run
1 Gold Goal run
2 Silver Goal runs
3 Bronze Goal runs

This alone would likely get more players to play if they know they can get a Commendation Pack without asking for help from the expert Gold players to corpse drag them through a map or just going into a random Gold game to likely get constantly kicked out of groups.

For me, the moment I see the Squad Goal require a Gold run I loose interest in playing immediately. Because I know that if we get the Allied Goal all I’m going to get is a Victory Pack that contains basic supply items. Personally I have better things to do than waste time to get that pack even if I could use the Medi-Gel and Ops Packs. I think the 91 Cobra’s and 183 Thermal Clips I have will last me for a while.

If the Victory Pack was something meaningful of the word “Victory” and was sort of a combination of the Jumbo Equipment Pack and Premium Spectre Pack then it would actually be worth playing the game to get.

Hell, the only reason I'm playing now is to see the new maps.

[KILTEDxSCOTSMAN]

If what your saying is true then I would find a new squad to play with. Because the squad I play with would strive to go for a full extraction on any difficulty even if It meant using their last medigel and everyone was level 20 and xp meant nothing. A full extraction is a challenge. Wheres the fun if you dont challenge yourself. Your saying its not fun to challenge yourself if you don't get an in game reward?


It seems to me that people are just looking for someone to blame the failure on. Yeah we never completed it, oh well at least then thats 1 more medigel we wont have to not waste on wave 11 to not get the full extraction.

Modifié par KILTEDxSCOTSMAN, 18 juillet 2012 - 07:19 .

[Rifneno]

KILTEDxSCOTSMAN wrote...

So what your basically saying is, let me quote "people don't waste expendables on wave 11" That statement right there if your talking about the majority says that they are selfish. Your telling me that you wouldn't get yourself up for a full extraction for someone for the xp even if you didn't need it just because you dont want to spend 1 medigel that you can get 5 anytime you want after game of silver+

My medigel is worth a stranger's 5000 exp?  I'm not sure whether to chastise you on your idea of money management, your idea of math, or the fact it's pretty clear you'll defend their foul play no matter how good our reasons are.

[KILTEDxSCOTSMAN]

There is no MY in TEAM. It is co-op so yes your medigel is worth a TEAMMATES 5000 xp. Thats the whole point of a TEAM game.

[TarotFox]

For the love of god, why do we STILL not have any way to track our progress at milestones as we move through the weekend?

[meleander]

Rifneno wrote...

KILTEDxSCOTSMAN wrote...

So what your basically saying is, let me quote "people don't waste expendables on wave 11" That statement right there if your talking about the majority says that they are selfish. Your telling me that you wouldn't get yourself up for a full extraction for someone for the xp even if you didn't need it just because you dont want to spend 1 medigel that you can get 5 anytime you want after game of silver+

My medigel is worth a stranger's 5000 exp?  I'm not sure whether to chastise you on your idea of money management, your idea of math, or the fact it's pretty clear you'll defend their foul play no matter how good our reasons are.

Umm, sorry, but usually i and me teammates dies after completing objective at wave 10, so wave 11 don't happen. And when we play with 1  random guy we are all pissed when he tries to survive wave 10 all alone. Dying faster gives you 3-5 minutes less in game. And yes, i play for credits, and mostly speedruns. Which means, i won't play with someone who need to gain experience, and when i am lvl 16 i do the same, dies at wave 10 after objective.
15k experience is ****. On higher lvls it doesn't matter if you get it, so yes, using your consumables after completing wave 10 mission is stupid.
What i mean is, you will need like 5 or 6 game to lvl up from lvl 16, or whatever you trying to go, and a few +15k experience don't makes any diffrence in how many games you need to lvl up.


About this extraction, i did about 30 full extractions on gold, and about 10 partial. But i was reading all along the information and i knew very, very fast (when the additional informationwas posted) that i need full extractions. So if we lose it, it's beacause people didn't care to read news.

[KILTEDxSCOTSMAN]

What you said is fine when playing with your own sqaud but playing speed runs for cresits is fine if everyone knows this prior to starting, I play speed runs too. But when playing with randoms during a community event not harvesting credits you should still get yourself up to help a teamate. Otherwise dont play with randoms.

Modifié par KILTEDxSCOTSMAN, 18 juillet 2012 - 07:33 .

[Huma1978]

Forgive me for asking, but as I'm at work while posting this, I don't have the time to scour through this thread for the answer to my question: When are the Commendation Packs being handed out? I know I was in at least 2 Gold matches with full extraction... so just a little curious, is all.

[TarotFox]

Tomorrow.

Tip: Click the Bioware name under these posts and you see all the updates they've made to the topic: one of which is when packs are being handed out.

[aeonsan]

Hi folks,

sad we failed, spent a great amount of work to contribute to the allied goal... anyway, that's how war is, you can't win at every frontline, and to those who feel like quitting because they "wasted their time" -- get yourself together soldier, grab your rifle and give'm a harder fight next time!

I had some really great teams among the randoms I played with, so thanks to everyone who contributed.

aeon out.

Modifié par aeonsan, 18 juillet 2012 - 08:01 .

[Huma1978]

7Deadly5ins wrote...

Tomorrow.

Tip: Click the Bioware name under these posts and you see all the updates they've made to the topic: one of which is when packs are being handed out.

Ahh, thanks for that 7Deadly5ins, appreciate the headsup.

[D.M]

Anyone got their own Commendation Pack?

[Rinaros]

Raging Nug wrote...

Next mission: complete 100 000 successful escort missions.

And by escort missions we mean kill Banshees.
And by Banshees we mean Geth Primes.

So that's 200 000 Geth Primes, everyone got it?

xp

400 000 and 3/4 Star Children you say? Consider it done.

[Grullaloka]

Is it possible to know the statistics of the Operation Broadside?

[Lividliver]

Grullaloka wrote...

Is it possible to know the statistics of the Operation Broadside?

If you are asking whether it is possible to calculate the number of full extractions we did.I would say it is a definite yes cause how else are they going to determine whether the event is a success or failure?Unless,they don't really calculate anything and just decide on whim like what some are suggesting.

If you are asking whether they will reveal the figures,then it is really up to them.For most of the previous events,they did tell us how we did exactly,even Silencer(the other event we failed).Most but not all.

[Jade Elf]

madmaxmovies wrote...

You're assuming there were 400,000 extractions including partials - based on stats Bioware has previously released, 400,000 reaper only extractions was always a lofty goal either way, full or partial.
Based on the ME3 stats released in May:
http://cdn.gamerant....layer-Stats.jpg
There were 10.5 million successful extractions, or approx 165,000 each day since release date. I assume these to be full extractions, given that there were 22.5 million games played, meaning 45% full extraction, 55% failure. The stats released in March:
http://media1.gamein...try Datanew.jpg
Indicate a failure rate (no extraction) of 33%, which is unlikely to have increased to 55% - the 10.5 million must be a full extracts number. If you count the failure rate in May as still at 33%, that leaves you with closer to 240,000 extractions a day (full or partial).
So, if we need full extractions, we would need to exceed what the long term average full extractions was at in May. If you consider that there are less people playing now, and that the 165,000 was against ALL enemies, not just reapers, it's highly unlikely that 400,000 reaper only extractions would be hit. Even if you include partials, the long term stats indicate that you're not going to exceed 600,000 in a weekend, and again you're assuming EVERYONE was playing reapers, which was not the case - I landed in various "Unknown" lobbies over the weekend looking for Reaper games (and on PS3, where many don't even know there's an objective).
You also have to consider that the individual goal was extraction on Gold, which a lot of non-Gold players were trying, meaning again a lower full extraction rate.
So in short, Bioware need to clean up their event specifications (as everyone has said, use "Full Extraction" as per the in-game terminology), and the goal that was set seems unlikely that it was attainable in any case.

Yeah, makes sense. In the end it's not surprising the goal wasn't achieved(though I'd be interested in seeing the weekend's official stats anyway). Oh well, as long as I get my commendation pack...

[4nNuNaKi]

still waiting for my commendation pack. anyone got it already?

[NukeHaze]

So when will we start seeing m920 cains and other heavy weaps sprinkled around the map if we no will be expected to succeed such ops on platinum?

Outcast I was talking about north america not the north pole.

Wouldnt hurt to see some American cities not just those where the game programmers haopen to be working from or outsourced to.