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[JohnDoe]

KILTEDxSCOTSMAN wrote...



What you said is fine when playing with your own sqaud but playing speed runs for cresits is fine if everyone knows this prior to starting, I play speed runs too. But when playing with randoms during a community event not harvesting credits you should still get yourself up to help a teamate. Otherwise dont play with randoms.

You're seriously not thinking straight in therms of this challenge ..
there are a lot of pubbers who are only used to silver or bronze.. and dont like the difficulty and/or frustration of Gold.

forcing them to get a "full squad" rescue is asking for perfection.. and while there were a crapload of lower tier pubbers. (I had to play 30 times before I found a decent team we could tackle a full extraction)

now take into account map bugs (like the Jungle Jade map) that some people still dont know..
and you get more failed and wasted attemps (wasted rockets, wasted medigels..etc..)

and the point is.. they said "rescue any.." first.. when in reality the goal was WRONGLY worded.
made a lot of players .. myself included..  to be safe after getting almost perfect Gold run.
then wasted 2 days thinking "the commendation pack is in my bag!" .. just to check the forum to see it required a FULL EXTRACTIOn.. made me go angry, frustrated and then had to play a lot of runs to get it finally.

Stinger14s wrote...

nope - pretty clear: Extract at least one member fighting the reapers on gold

and they later corrected it to be a full extraction.. you didnt see the bioware thread?
unless that thread was a flunk.

[Vistixx]

@JohnDoe: Only the community goal required full extractions. To achieve the squad goal you only had to extract at least one teammember on gold against reapers.

[saizarod]

Honestly I'm not mad at Bioware for not specifying whether the extractions had to be full or not. I always went for a full extraction. So people need to stop complaining to Bioware. We failed this mission. We'll do better next time, There will be a tomorrow.

[Arppis]

Still no box for me... has anyone got theirs?

[RockMan20]

no box here. I completed at least 3 gold reaper matches with at least 1 member alive and in the circle.

[Rifneno]

Kyrene wrote...

That's rich!

Why is it that you feel entitled to a Victory Pack, when by your own words in this thread, you would do the bare minimum to ensure a full extraction for your squad anyway? And judging by the threat* you made to BioWare staff a couple of pages back, I should probably report you. Yet, you can call me "the troll"? Whatever you're smoking, buddy, please send some along...

Not that it matters to the whiners, but I enjoyed this weekend. So did my buddy who is brand new to MP. We both read the operation and rightly assumed a "full extraction" was meant for the community goal. We both played Bronze PUGs and levelled his HAdept to 20 and HInfiltrator to 7, while managing 30-odd full extractions. We had a crapload of fun playing MP in our spare time over the weekend. We plan to have a lot more in future, even more when the whiners have all moved on to other places.

* Edit to quote threatening post in context:

Rifneno wrote...

JaimasOfRaxis wrote...

If someone finds out who screwed up on the issuance of this week's objective, let me know, so I can send a polite-but-firm note detailing my disapproval.

Ditto.  Except but "polite-but-firm note," I mean "a box of scorpions."

God, I haven't seen that much fail in one place since Kevin Federline.  First of all, people aren't complaining because we failed, they're complaining because after an extended period of time with no operations we get one that's simply impossible and to throw salt in the wound they dangled a delicious medi-gel carrot in front of us that we were never going to get.
As for the "threatening post," buy a sense of humor.  Good lord.  It was a joke from an episode of Fraiser.  Who mails scorpions?!  How could you actually think that's a real threat?!  You call US whiners but the second someone says you're trolling, you get so bent out of shape you try to get them banned by quoting an obvious joke, pretending it's a legitimate threat and apparently hoping a moderator is so out of touch with reality that they think venomous insects via UPS is a serious concern.

[TarotFox]

I would be so much more motivated to complete these challenges if there was a way to monitor our progress as we go.

[meleander]

GuardianofSouls wrote...

 It failed because it was a poorly chosen event by BioWare.

I hope BioWare never does another weekend where the squad goal is a match on Gold and only Gold; It completely alienates a large chunk of the community and forces people who are either not good enough or not geared enough (via unlocks) to have a chance of success for the packs. (Which causes a lot of frustration for other players)

What happens is, you get a bunch of players playing above their difficulty for hours trying to get the squad goal and as a result are not getting extractions on their normal difficulty which count towards the allied goal. And if they even manage to get the Gold extraction, that is mission after mission lost that could have gone to the allied goal. The point of these events is to attract and involve the community not just the better percentage of players. 

In future there should never be an extraction goal above Silver (unless there is a secondary option); which is a difficulty that the vast majority of the community can play and have fun in. 

Now I'm sure someone will argue "Well, its a 'Commendation' pack it shouldn't be so easy." I can understand that argument. Let me offer you an alternative then: One extraction on Gold or four extractions on Silver. Full extraction on silver, one extracted at least on Gold. Etc. It doesn't need to be made easy, it should however, be made accessible.

And before anyone asks, I will be getting my Commendation pack and I predominantly play on Gold.  

There is only one way to start playing better. It is to play with better players on higher difficulty. Thanks to this i am a hell of a lot player and have a lot more people on my origin account who i know and who i play with.

[WaffleCrab]

so com packs, when can we expect them.

[HinDae]

I was wondering when we'd get it, my fingers have been crossed all day for a Valiant.

[ManBearPigIets]

HinDae wrote...

I was wondering when we'd get it, my fingers have been crossed all day for a Valiant.

I decided to stick with my viper VII rather than my Valiant I, does about the same damage but with 6 bullets in a clip, decent fire rate, magazine, and reload times, and is far lighter.

[shadowbrooker]

yeah when do the commendation packs hit

[Carnagedude504]

Just got my commendation pack... Stupid crusader...

[a proud nerd]

meleander wrote...

GuardianofSouls wrote...

Words words words.

Snippity snip.

There is only one way to start playing better. It is to play with better players on higher difficulty. Thanks to this i am a hell of a lot player and have a lot more people on my origin account who i know and who i play with.

Absolutely true. I was absolutely terrible before this past weekend. First Gold match? Thanks to my Black Widow I on my Quarian Engineer I was able to backpack to a full extraction on Gold twice, and many, many more when I went back to Bronze. I usually play on Bronze, only because of the general player attitude on Silver that usually results in a mission failure, even though I've only failed once on Gold, and I'm usually not motivated enough to do constant Gold matches and waste all my consumables and time and effort.

But that's another thread.

Point is, play with a better crowd of people on a higher difficulty and you learn how to play better and can bring that into Bronze/Silver.

Commendation pack. Commendation pack. Commendation Pack! COMMENDATION PACK! COMMENDATION! PACK! DAMNIT! :innocent:

[Zero 2362]

KILTEDxSCOTSMAN wrote...

There is no MY in TEAM. It is co-op so yes your medigel is worth a TEAMMATES 5000 xp. Thats the whole point of a TEAM game.

My regular team for gold all believe that 1 medi-gel is worth more than the team getting that additional exp. That is a judgment we all agree on as a team. None of us see the point in using our expendable gear for full extraction however that does not stop us from trying to get the full extraction if we can

[Zero 2362]

Still no commendation pack. Getting a tad irritated of waiting

[Brewski789]

I got my commendation pack as well, also Crusader.

[klokked]

I got my commendation pack too. Valiant I FINALLY.

[NukeHaze]

I know what's going on.

Hacket has been indoctrinated by Casper the reaper psycho child and we are fighting to free him and still activate the crucible.

We could not have failed the op. I know I had 4 extractions on gold reaper using Quarian male tech and Geth engineer satisfying personal and squad goals but the allied goal was up to everyone on any difficulty. I believe we made it.

My "commendation"pack included only:
5 cobra missiles
level 3 ammo
N7 Eagle upgrade to level 2

And I already have stupid Acolyte lev VI, Piranha VI, Destroyer soldier and Fury adept. Destroyer seems to have faulty missile powers and destroyer scan mode. Anyway.

We must save Hacket and retake our MP and ending.

Wjy don;t we get updayes on the Alliance mews network main menu screen on ops and things?

What about the ability to use our own Shepherd face for oir forum avatars? Would ne easu for BW to help us do that.

If anyone knows how to screenpic yoir Shep for avatar please let me know.

Otherwise, still hoping for a supreme court recoumt fpr the op. Dont care aboit tje gel at this poimt but me reaching a goal I was never able to swing before not once but 4 times deserves more than a crappy of the worst n7 guns. Never used it in MP. Gimme 5 of the jumbo packs and I will be happy.

See you all in gsme I must step off soap box and go fight for Shep.

[Grammaton Dryad]

Since I hate reading about people complaining and whining over petty things, I haven't looked over the last several pages to see if anyone posted how much we failed by or not.

So, does anyone know the numbers from the weekend operation? Thanks.

[NukeHaze]

I guess I am complaining but they haven't told us yet.

[madmaxmovies]

meleander wrote...
There is only one way to start playing better. It is to play with better players on higher difficulty. Thanks to this i am a hell of a lot player and have a lot more people on my origin account who i know and who i play with.

Agree 100%. The first time you play gold, you are going to get hit hard. But the best way to get better, is hang out in some gold games, and when you're down, watch and learn what the other players are doing. I've come across a lot of great players (with headsets) who will also spend time coaching others and providing tips on how to play, weapons to choose, etc. The only way to get better at gold is to play it. I got killed plenty early on, and now I find it's not that hard, but it certainly requires different strategies to the other difficulties. I would also say it does require some upgraded weapons, which is where people who haven't played much and unlocked upgrades will still suffer fairly badly.

Obviously there are still some players out there who will try to kick lower players out of gold or be silly about it, or yell rather than providing meaningful advice. Usually guys who haven't played much gold themselves, and still struggle with it. And then there's the guys who I land with sometimes in gold missions with who outscore me by double, that I still try to watch and learn (but usually can't figure out for the life of me how they're doing it!)

[Rifneno]

Grammaton Dryad wrote...

Since I hate reading about people complaining and whining over petty things, I haven't looked over the last several pages to see if anyone posted how much we failed by or not.

But you enjoy complaining and whining over other people complaining and whining.  Ironic, huh?

[Aesandil]

meleander wrote...
Umm, sorry, but usually i and me teammates dies after completing objective at wave 10, so wave 11 don't happen. And when we play with 1  random guy we are all pissed when he tries to survive wave 10 all alone. Dying faster gives you 3-5 minutes less in game. And yes, i play for credits, and mostly speedruns. Which means, i won't play with someone who need to gain experience, and when i am lvl 16 i do the same, dies at wave 10 after objective.
15k experience is ****. On higher lvls it doesn't matter if you get it, so yes, using your consumables after completing wave 10 mission is stupid. 

I guess I'm one of those guys who take perverse pleasure in pissing off people who try to do what you do. There were a few cases lately when I took my sweet time finishing off the remaining mobs of wave 10, while some folks were chastising me for it. 
Personally, I like to play for fun, and I don't like the idea of simply giving up. It just feels better when a mission ends in an extraction rather than in a failure. 

In a way, it's also Bioware's fault. Many people are opportunists, so the kind of design that doesn't reward surviving to the very end is a poor one. That's why it's always more interesting when we have operations such as these. 

[The Mega Cake]

Comm Pack arrived. Finally got my Valiant!