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#476
Gethzilla-N7SP

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Being realistic, play against the Reapers is not for anyone in the gold level.
I warned about it days before the start of the mission, including pointing to a very likely failure.

The problem is not lack of conditions for the players a challenge like this, but the proposal for a challenge that only a small portion of players had to face condition, besides the very high number of extractions required.

A suggestion for the team that develops these tasks:

Just as there is "manifest multiplayer", it would be interesting if we could see the progress of the mission in real time. That way we would know what to do and how we need to play more matches. This is not difficult to do.

PS: Excuse me for eventual grammatical errors...

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AuraSoldier313 wrote...

I only got partial extraction when I was led to believe that if at least one person in the game extracted we all got the comm pack, but now I find out that I needed full extraction when it wasn't even specified in the first place and changed towards the end of the event itself.

Yeah, I think myself and the vast majority of people who were led to believe that at least 1 person extracting would get them the comm pack should still be getting the comm pack, not just those who did full extraction and/or came to BSN and found out it was full extraction only.


I think the Commendation Pack is safe...it's the Victory Pack for the Allied Goal that everyone is upset about. See opening post of this topic, pretty sure it says full extraction not needed for the Commendation Pack.

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Ainyan42 wrote...

Yes, we failed when we were given obscure objectives that were not clarified until halfway through the operation, and when the end time listed on the forums (which many people held to be truth) was 16 hours BEFORE the operation actually ended, ensuring anyone who used the forums as the operation parameters and not the blog (which many people do not read) stopped trying after 10am PST on Sunday.

We aren't the ones who failed.


This x1000.

How hard is it to proofread announcements and verify correct info is posted, since it is vital that we have it?

Modifié par Meatiershower, 17 juillet 2012 - 06:54 .


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Nasulprak

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How close were we to succeeding?

#480
LordMarrick

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Actually considering the amount of people playing this last weekend I think we did clear the 400k mark but bio just dont want us to have more medigel

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Darr.Isla

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RainRequiem wrote...

AtreiNero wrote...

I really blame BioWare for this one because they failed to communicate that we needed full extraction to begin with. It wasn't until Saturday that I learned that we needed to have full extraction. So I played 10 matches and only had one full. I really feel cheated because of the lack of communication.

Just a hint next time guys, be specific in your communications and respond quicker so this doesn't happen again.


Not to burst your bubble but BioWare had clearly stated for the community goal that it had to be a full extraction on any difficulty from the get-go.


Sorry to burst your bubble but no they did not. blog.bioware.com/2012/07/10/operation-broadside/ Only says Extract 400,000 squads against Reapers on ANY difficulty, Didn't state that it needed to be full.. 

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It was too hard anyway. If we couldn't get 3 million banshee (c 300k games ?) are were we supposed to get 400k full extractions ? It's not like I personally failed a full extraction when I had a chance to just cause I thought it wasn't needed.

Modifié par Aloren, 17 juillet 2012 - 07:09 .


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They said "full" but only after the fact, after someone asked on the forums. They did not say it in the actual announcements.

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AtreiNero

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Darr.Isla wrote...

RainRequiem wrote...

AtreiNero wrote...

I really blame BioWare for this one because they failed to communicate that we needed full extraction to begin with. It wasn't until Saturday that I learned that we needed to have full extraction. So I played 10 matches and only had one full. I really feel cheated because of the lack of communication.

Just a hint next time guys, be specific in your communications and respond quicker so this doesn't happen again.


Not to burst your bubble but BioWare had clearly stated for the community goal that it had to be a full extraction on any difficulty from the get-go.


Sorry to burst your bubble but no they did not. blog.bioware.com/2012/07/10/operation-broadside/ Only says Extract 400,000 squads against Reapers on ANY difficulty, Didn't state that it needed to be full.. 


Exactly. They said extraction. They didn't clarify it

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Major_Tao_Tau wrote...

Chris,

It would be really helpful if Bioware were to add a display to the Multiplayer screen that gave a readout on number of successful extractions / completed objectives....and the requirements for the objective.

I'd like to see two reports.  Squad Goal ( Not completed / )     (  Completed ! )

Community Goal:   ( 50,000 extractions needed as of 07-15-2012 1300 PST )  /  
                ( Completed !  500,000 extractions !  ) 

The Mass Effect 3 Multiplayer Hub page could have an Operation Page: "Battlefield Report"  which provides figures updated after every hour of play during the operation period. I recommend having the intial display page which describes the objectives to be present on the Operation Page for the duration of the challenge.

This would be helpful so the entire community could get an idea of how many more enemies must be slain to reach the goal.  Currently we're in the dark as to how close we get or far we are from completion.

I played for six hours on 07-13-2012, and put in more time on the weekend in trying to meet the community goal.


These are my thoughts exactly.

#486
Nyaa001

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when they said extraction i took it as full extraction regardless on if they said it or not

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Darr.Isla

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bmac4417 wrote...

They said "full" but only after the fact, after someone asked on the forums. They did not say it in the actual announcements.


They should have got it right from the start, I only realised full extractions after it had ended as I hadn't checked the forums during. I was too busy trying to get extractions against Reapers.
So all the people doing Gold (and silver) and only managing partial extractions for the squad goal didn't contribute to the allied goal (myself included). As it wasn't CLEAR.
I've pretty much stood with Bioware this whole time but this has really annoyed me. Shame on you!! :(

Rant over.

Modifié par Darr.Isla, 17 juillet 2012 - 07:15 .


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SoulRebel_1979

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Eh, win some lose some. Was a fun weekend anyway. Can't wait to see the next one!

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You ask too much of a dying community.

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AtreiNero

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Nyaa001 wrote...

when they said extraction i took it as full extraction regardless on if they said it or not


Then you are a rare breed. Very few did because they usually specificy something like that, either in the inital announcment or before the event starts. However this time they didn't. They didn't specify that until midway through the operation.

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So many things to say here ...

1) Agree the goals were VERY vague.  "Extraction" does NOT necessarily mean "FULL Extraction".  Only clarified late in the game, in a separate post.  NOT even edited on ANY of the three(!) official announcements.
2) Incorrect end time.  Again, not corrected on ANY of the official announcements, just in a separate post.
3) Given the above, and especailly #1, I implore Bioware to go back to the looser definition and score the Op accordingly.  If we had 400K partials, call it a success!

Having said all that, I very much enjoyed the event.  More points on this:
4) I'm a mediocre player, reluctant to play higher difficulties.  It got me out of my comfort zone.  With the help of the community (shoutout to all the threads inviting us mere mortals to join), I got the Gold.  Now I'll play a lot more Silver.
5) And I still managed to participate in 30 FULL extractions overall.  I really wanted the Gold, but also to contribute. So please don't blame us aspiring gold-diggers :)
6) My experience in games was very different than of many above posters.  I simply set "any base/reaper/bronze" and I'd say 95% plus were reaper games.  The few times it wasn't, I asked the leader to switch.  If they didn't, I bailed.
7) And 90% of my bronze games ended with full extractions.  So at least the groups I hooked up with were doing the right thing.
8) Oh, I even managed my first solo (Bronze/White/Reaper)!

So, yeah, I'm seriously bummed we failed.  But overall, it was an awesome experience marred only be the logistics

Modifié par DocDAM, 17 juillet 2012 - 07:42 .


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Crap, so we didn't do the thing they didn't tell us we needed to do. It's like being in a bad relationship with a girl who expects you to guess her wants/needs and gets mad when they're not met.

I probably got 4-5 full, including two full on gold, but my team could have cranked out more had we known.

#493
cursemarkedkyuubi

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wtf i completed gold with full extraction! i am soooo pissed off

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chaosrhythm

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Personally I think they need to extend the weekend challenges a little bit more. People want to do more than stay in front of their consoles and play one or two games. I think they need to extend it from Thursday evening to Monday evening.

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Squad Goal: Extract at least one squad member against Reapers on Gold difficulty
Allied Goal: Extract 400,000 squads against Reapers on ANY difficulty 


How does 400,000 SQUAD(S) not mean "full extraction" when on the squad goal they specified "One Squad member"?  I guess to some it was vague but I guess in the future Bioware needs to spell these out word for word with pictures.....

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Chris Priestly wrote...

Operation Broadside: Failed.

From: Admiral Steven Hackett
Re: Operation BROADSIDE
Confidentiality classification: XB-PRIME
Distribution: N7 Forces Only
 
Soldiers of the Milky Way –
 
... long letter, not quoting it whole

:devil:


Allied Goal: Extract 400,000 squads against Reapers on ANYdifficulty
Special Circumstance: None

You didnt told us what "squads" is - like if 4 players, 3 or 2 or even single one (even one person in "squad") so basically, its your fault - You should feel bad :lol:

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mybudgee

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Does this mean Banshees will be appearing in the shuttle bay/latrines in the next few days?!?

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Squad Goal: Extract at least one squad member against Reapers on Gold difficulty
Allied Goal: Extract 400,000 squads against Reapers on ANY difficulty

This is very clear. One squad member and SQUADS. If you have trouble with military slang, you shoud not be with N7.at all.

Back to bootcamp and learn how read and UNDERSTAND your objectives.

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Not to burst your bubbles but why aren't you all going for full extraction in the first place? Who cares if it said it or not. Get to the damn extraction point and let the enemy come to you. Try to make Bioware out to be the bad guy when you all aren't giving it your 100% anyways. smh.

Modifié par LadieGamer, 17 juillet 2012 - 08:15 .


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Demon Velsper

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Just further proves that people are getting bored with this. You can't just throw out new pokemon and expect people to suddenly want to do the same thing over and over and over and over and over again.

This game needs new modes.