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[TYBO guy]

Last time I checked I don't work at Bioware, thus it is not my "job" to decipher the wording of the challenges. This is poor communication on Bioware's part. If anything, it should have said FULL EXTRACTION on the special circumstances section, since there are three types of extractions a squad can achieve.. Then there would be no debate about what is being asked of us players.

[Battlepope190]

cerberus1701 wrote...

AtreiNero wrote...

Battlepope190 wrote...

Not our fault. Between unclear objectives and cheating AI, what were we supposed to do?

Yes to the first part, but what do you mean "cheating AI"?

Probably the Banshee tractor beam.

That.

[egueguen]

whats with most of the comunity and doing dick all against reaper challenges?

[reymonkey]

Zaidra wrote...

not really. it's the players' faults for not reading carefully, or asking to make sure. 

This has nothing to do with reading carefully. It was vague, plain and simple. One word in the event description ("full" or "fully") would have clarified everything.

I'm not saying that the community doesn't share in the blame for failing this mission. Even if they had been explicit, we still might have failed, as so many people were busy trying to get the squad goal that they weren't contributing to the allied goal. But it's not too much to ask for better communication from Bioware on these missions, which have repeatedly been vague and at times even inaccurate.

[ufc345]

TYBO guy wrote...

Last time I checked I don't work at Bioware, thus it is not my "job" to decipher the wording of the challenges. This is poor communication on Bioware's part. If anything, it should have said FULL EXTRACTION on the special circumstances section, since there are three types of extractions a squad can achieve.. Then there would be no debate about what is being asked of us players.

Still our fault since a lot of people assumed the easiest thing instead of the hardest

[Darr.Isla]

ufc345 wrote...

TYBO guy wrote...

Last time I checked I don't work at Bioware, thus it is not my "job" to decipher the wording of the challenges. This is poor communication on Bioware's part. If anything, it should have said FULL EXTRACTION on the special circumstances section, since there are three types of extractions a squad can achieve.. Then there would be no debate about what is being asked of us players.

Still our fault since a lot of people assumed the easiest thing instead of the hardest

I always strive for full extraction but those banshees have one hell of a reach!

[C9316]

All arguing aside, should we really be surprised here? It's not like Bioware hasn't dropped the ball spectacularly with Mass Effect 3 before...

[Jull3]

It's the communities fault. Sure the descriptions vague, but are you ****ing kidding me? It said any difficulty...ANY. PLAY ****ing BRONZE....do NOT play gold if you're trying to complete the allied goal.

[n3koshi]

Chris Priestly wrote...

Squad Goal: Extract at least one squad member against Reapers on Gold difficulty
Allied Goal: Extract 400,000 squads against Reapers on ANYdifficulty

Given that the Squad Goal specifically said "at least one" and the Allied Goal says "squad(s)" , I did take it to mean a full extraction. However, I can easily understand how easy it would be to confuse, since everyone interprets things differently, that's why most professions have an established nonclemature. It wouldn't take to much effort (use the word "full") to clarify this upfront, so yes, I do feel Chris and Bioware may have dropped the ball on this one, especially since this particular wording issue/misunderstanding has cropped up before.

On the flip side of that, I've seen too many glory hounds so set on getting one more kill that they miss the proverbial "last shuttle out" so being confused about the specifics is no excuse for not giving your best effort to play as a team member, which is what ultimately what cost us a victory. Of course, that's just my $0.02USD. It could also be that so many people have bailed for other games Bioware needs to significantly lower the bar.

[CitizenThom]

Shepardwrex19 wrote...

This shows something very important.

Less investment into Vega's Sabers and Wraiths and more investment into the Alliance Intel branch.

Exactly, maybe it's because so many infilrators are deployed, and unable to protect alliance HQ from counter intelligence such as has happened to Admiral Hackett this weekend.

[ufc345]

Darr.Isla wrote...

ufc345 wrote...

TYBO guy wrote...

Last time I checked I don't work at Bioware, thus it is not my "job" to decipher the wording of the challenges. This is poor communication on Bioware's part. If anything, it should have said FULL EXTRACTION on the special circumstances section, since there are three types of extractions a squad can achieve.. Then there would be no debate about what is being asked of us players.

Still our fault since a lot of people assumed the easiest thing instead of the hardest

I always strive for full extraction but those banshees have one hell of a reach!

The Reach the one move my Vorcha can't survive

[NOD-INFORMER37]

Jull3 wrote...

It's the communities fault. Sure the descriptions vague, but are you ****ing kidding me? It said any difficulty...ANY. PLAY ****ing BRONZE....do NOT play gold if you're trying to complete the allied goal.

Why so hostile lol, there was a little fault on both sides for this Operation not being complete.

The communities for not extracting enough squad members and Bioware's for not properly clarifying the requirements.  

But whatever, both sides can get better at what they do so we can do better for the next Op, lesson learned. 

[JOKER X118]

 Do we still get the commendations pack for achieving extraction on gold?

[GabbySera]

Apparently not, since I didn't get it and it's past the usual time.

[AlienWolf728]

lolwesuck

[schulz100]

So, wait a minute.
Even though we ALL probably earned Commendation packs by completing the squad goal, we aren't getting them?
WTF you guys?!

[ufc345]

schulz100 wrote...

So, wait a minute.
Even though we ALL probably earned Commendation packs by completing the squad goal, we aren't getting them?
WTF you guys?!

We are still getting those just not the Victory pack

Modifié par ufc345, 18 juillet 2012 - 03:14 .

[Trezist]

LOL
You know, it's really rather humorous to read the different reactions of the community. You got those who point the infamous finger, not accepting any responsibility for failure (regardless of their part in the mission). Then you have those who seem to accept it as fact and are ready to move on for the next mission.
I can't help but wonder how many people have ever really been on a "mission," when they're claiming that errors like poor communication would never happen in real life. Wonder what reality their life is in. Seriously though, try going on a real mission where a dozen of you are tasked to go to destination Alpha and perform tasks X-ray, Zulu, & Charlie. Then when you get to your destination you stop dead in your tracks and exclaim, "Hold the phone up! What the ship is going on here?!" Yeah, call up top to ask why nothing is really matching, just to have top reply that they forgot to mention the FRAGO and how you need to get your asking back in line and complete the mission.
Yep, stuff happens, and life sucks--even virtual life can suck. But I don't really understand why that's a bad thing, most of the time I find such an action quite enjoyable. Too bad so many others haven't figured out how to enjoy that part of life. Oh well, onward to prepare for the next mission!

[ufc345]

GabbySera wrote...

Apparently not, since I didn't get it and it's past the usual time.

The packs come out tomorrow

[artificial-ignorance]

so I guess we dont get a medi-gel upgrade...

[Midnight Voyager]

100% unsurprised, seeing as how it took me the entire weekend to even finish the squad goal.

Step 1. Make higher difficulties harder.
Step 2. Make challenge dependent on higher difficulties.
Step 3. Laugh as people try hopelessly to group with random people to get it done, ending up with no time to even try to help with the community goal.

[4ut0b4hn5child27]

So tell me evil Chris

what is the backfire we get from failed the ALLIED extraction....i wanna know.

maybe Bronze with full of Reapers???

it will be boring if just only banshee appear in other faction.

Make all reapers come out in Cerberus and Geth Faction that would be a small Platinum mode

Modifié par 4ut0b4hn5child27, 18 juillet 2012 - 03:34 .

[canerican]

so tell me, do we still get our commendation packs
if so, when do we get them
if not then why the f***k did i do a reaper gold for nothing?

[cegr25]

canerican wrote...

so tell me, do we still get our commendation packs
if so, when do we get them
if not then why the f***k did i do a reaper gold for nothing?

We SHOULD. I still haven't gotten mine though

[canerican]

cegr25 wrote...

canerican wrote...

so tell me, do we still get our commendation packs
if so, when do we get them
if not then why the f***k did i do a reaper gold for nothing?

We SHOULD. I still haven't gotten mine though

me niether, i really want that dang crusader soon, and i was hoping that this would carry it, like what was the concept? "the community WILL complete the goal and they will get the med gel cap increase in the commendation."? u know unless they screw up and all, then we gotta change the pack contents.