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Peregrin25 wrote...

Maybe the failure has nothing to do with people misunderstanding the requirements. Maybe that is just because not as many people are playing online anymore, compared to how many were 2-3 months ago.

In my honest opinion. I think online co-op is losing. Yeah, people still play, hell I even log in from time to time to just kill some stuff, but not nearly as much as I used to. But I think by the end of the year, online co-op will be for the most part dead. Some will still be around, but not a many.


I'd agree with that assessment.  I know I don't play MP any more, it gets boring after you've played it so many times.  And besides, I think people are getting fed up of MP getting all the love and DLC.

Add to that, you can now easily get the EMS required to get the "best" ending, thus removing the need to play MP - and that was frankly the only reason I played MP in the first place.

Modifié par res27772, 18 juillet 2012 - 10:42 .


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From my point of view the operation was planed to fail. The comparison to the two former operations shows a huge difference in difficulty. While for the last operations nearly every played minute count, this time only a small part count (killing soldiers and doing missions against full extraction on reapers). Furthermore the needed matches have increased. Killing 7.000.000 soldiers means ~ 70.000, doing 100.000 recovery missions means about 133.000 matches. This time far more than half a million matches were needed. Not to forget we had less time, the last operations took 60 hours, this one only 48.
So if we didn't exceed the requirements by far the last times, it is obvious that we had no realistic chance this time.

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Is it not just inevitable that MP will run it's course and die eventually anyway - at least BW are trying to keep things a little fresh with the weekend ops and new (not to mention free) DLC
Even if things are on the slide come december, it would've still had a decent 9 month run which for online play isn't bad, especially considering MP isn't a mode that most people who played ME1/ME2 actually wanted included in the first place?

I was one of those people, I didn't see the need for MP content in what should be a SP game - but since having beaten SP, I've not looked back - not even for the Extended Cut DLC!!!
I'm just having way too much fun in co-op play to think about playing anything else - best co-op experience since R6's T-Hunt which is something I sunk many-many an hour into when I first got my 360 back in the day.

Besides that, given that MP isn't the primary mode for ME3, look at what it's got to compete with - how many people go through the daily competitive grind of games like CoD and battlefield just to get unlocks, those games don't last any longer than 12 months before the latest (yet all too familiar) yearly update is released?

I reckon BW have done a top class job with this - the fact that anyone is still playing 6 months down the line is surely testament to how good MP mode is?

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Chool wrote...

I'm hoping they made this challenge because they have an awesome 'consequence' for failing.


titusthelegendaryfox wrote...

The "soon" remark at the end seems both omnious and promising at the same time.


I think this mission was "designed" to fail (even if we actually won it).  Having re-read all of the Operation descriptions, there is a multiplayer story emerging......

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Anyone got his commendation pack yet?

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Still waiting on my commendation pack too. Anyone else having trouble finding matches? Got the server down message, then it connected 5 mins later but still couldn't connect to any games. Really wanted to try out a game of platinum with my new N7 Paladin.

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I don't think that knowing that it's full extraction would have changed anything. That is the goal anyway and people will still screw over others trying to boost their score/ego.

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Olasko83 wrote...

Still waiting on my commendation pack too. Anyone else having trouble finding matches? Got the server down message, then it connected 5 mins later but still couldn't connect to any games. Really wanted to try out a game of platinum with my new N7 Paladin.


Actually I did!! Had to solo all day... even they were public games, nobody would join...
Don't like the Paladin though...

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bult0055 wrote...

Olasko83 wrote...

Still waiting on my commendation pack too. Anyone else having trouble finding matches? Got the server down message, then it connected 5 mins later but still couldn't connect to any games. Really wanted to try out a game of platinum with my new N7 Paladin.


Actually I did!! Had to solo all day... even they were public games, nobody would join...
Don't like the Paladin though...


I can't find matches too.  Solo only.  :?

Paladin has slow fire rate. I prefer the arc pistol. B)

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No com pack yet, and also couldnt find a game.

#636
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The game has its own terms, which players are accustomed.

Full Extraction, when all survive; Partial Extraction when two or three players survive ... and the "lone survivor", which is self-explanatory. They are all "extraction", regardless of the number of players who survive.

When, in terms of mission, write-only "400K extraction," gives to understand that any type of extraction is valid and has to reach the goal of the mission.

The truth is that the mission was poorly written, leaving to clarify points that Bioware considered important. The FACT, however is that a whole community of players who participated in the mission understand the parameters of the mission considering the terms of the game.

Simple as that.

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For those who have problems finding games to play, after contacting EA Support, I did these and my problem solved:
Try deleting your OfflineCache file in the following way.

1. In Origin, click the settings gear next to your username on the upper right side
2. Select Settings from the dropdown
3. Click on the ‘Browse Game Installers’ button. A window will appear with folders in it.
4. Shut down Origin
5. Then in the window, double click on the folder with your email address.
6. Delete the file called ‘OfflineCache’
7. Launch Origin again.
Launch the game and play!

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AtreiNero wrote...

survivor_686 wrote...

AtreiNero wrote...

I really blame BioWare for this one because they failed to communicate that we needed full extraction to begin with. It wasn't until Saturday that I learned that we needed to have full extraction. So I played 10 matches and only had one full. I really feel cheated because of the lack of communication.

Just a hint next time guys, be specific in your communications and respond quicker so this doesn't happen again.


Wait we needed a full extraction?

Yes. Again failure to communicate on BioWare's part. We shouldn't have failed because they are the ones who caused the failure.

www.youtube.com/watch - I think this sums it up quite nicely

LOL. This is good comedy.

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clopy22 wrote...

bult0055 wrote...

Olasko83 wrote...

Still waiting on my commendation pack too. Anyone else having trouble finding matches? Got the server down message, then it connected 5 mins later but still couldn't connect to any games. Really wanted to try out a game of platinum with my new N7 Paladin.


Actually I did!! Had to solo all day... even they were public games, nobody would join...
Don't like the Paladin though...


I can't find matches too.  Solo only.  :?

Paladin has slow fire rate. I prefer the arc pistol. B)


I was taking about the new character Paladin :whistle:

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the fix above it works u guys should try :)

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Lunapur

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i never thought i'll play MP in ME but i love it :)

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Of course MP is failing. Out of four hours of MP matches, I was only able to complete one. ONE. Yes, read that again: ONE. Not due to player incompetence, but due to disconnectes. Either myself disconnecting, or the hosting player disconnecting, or other squad members. This usually was happening around wave 5 - 7. So the single full match I got that no one disconnected from, that was the only full match I played all weekened. Why? Frustration. No one wants to be told 'meet xxx requirement' and then have a server problem make it so they can't meet xxx requirement. That, and getting the packs is just so damn rediculous, jumping through hoops, even when you do make the requirement that it's to much of a pain in the arse to deal with. I still find MP fun, but far to much of a hassle to deal with.

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ufc345 wrote...

TYBO guy wrote...

Last time I checked I don't work at Bioware, thus it is not my "job" to decipher the wording of the challenges. This is poor communication on Bioware's part. If anything, it should have said FULL EXTRACTION on the special circumstances section, since there are three types of extractions a squad can achieve.. Then there would be no debate about what is being asked of us players.

Still our fault since a lot of people assumed the easiest thing instead of the hardest

I misinterpreted the Mission Orders. Thanks to all who have pointed that out. In hindsight I can clearly see the distinction between Squad and Squad Member. I initially thought that an Allied Goal of 400,000 individual extractions was pretty easy...I should have known better.

I understand that BioWare was trying to keep the Mission Briefing on a military level. I don't think that anyone expects them to plan for every contingency, and every possible scenario to make the Briefings "idiot proof." Perhaps future Briefings can be written in a way that meets the military and layman sides in the middle. Maybe something like a Briefing "Synthesis.":D

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Ok so we failed the community challenge but im pritty sure I forfilled the the personal one so where is my commendation pack

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It really just wasn't that clear too bad.. hopefully the squad reward comes through soon. It certainly was a challange though and the operation got me playing gold.. hadn't really played gold before, but really enjoyable and love that money.. platinum should be crazy. It's great to have four random people come together with their favourite builds and see what works on those harder diffs. Also had some stellar fails where players/builds/playstyles just didn't mesh at all.. those were fun too. good weekend all in all.

Can someone tell me why I'm just plain no good with a Krogan? Are they typically harder to play or what? I'm not a shotgun/melee style player at all but when I use a Krogan it's like I have no thumbs.

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nussi28 wrote...

From my point of view the operation was planed to fail. The comparison to the two former operations shows a huge difference in difficulty. While for the last operations nearly every played minute count, this time only a small part count (killing soldiers and doing missions against full extraction on reapers). Furthermore the needed matches have increased. Killing 7.000.000 soldiers means ~ 70.000, doing 100.000 recovery missions means about 133.000 matches. This time far more than half a million matches were needed. Not to forget we had less time, the last operations took 60 hours, this one only 48.
So if we didn't exceed the requirements by far the last times, it is obvious that we had no realistic chance this time.


Not to mention it had to be completed on gold as well in order to get the victory pack, and I don't know if it was just the people hosting gold games or it's always like that, but it was not possible to get the game started unless they had a complete team, or you stumbled into a gold match already underway.  I found it incredibly annoying that I was being discriminated against purely by my N7 rating, I work my arse off to support the team (did a silver match last night on Hydro against Geth, never seen so many Destroyers at once), yeah I might get killed a couple of times, but not even giving me the chance to try and help is pretty rubbish...especially knowing that we needed to collectively reach an impossible goal.

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flibber89-2 wrote...

It really just wasn't that clear too bad.. hopefully the squad reward comes through soon. It certainly was a challange though and the operation got me playing gold.. hadn't really played gold before, but really enjoyable and love that money.. platinum should be crazy. It's great to have four random people come together with their favourite builds and see what works on those harder diffs. Also had some stellar fails where players/builds/playstyles just didn't mesh at all.. those were fun too. good weekend all in all.

Can someone tell me why I'm just plain no good with a Krogan? Are they typically harder to play or what? I'm not a shotgun/melee style player at all but when I use a Krogan it's like I have no thumbs.


No mobility, no side dash.

Also people that play Krogan tend to grab very heavy weapons and nerf their recharge rates for powers, and simply forget that just because the krogan can take a lot of damage doesnt mean they should stop using cover.

It could be any of these reasons.

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what about commedation packs?? are they out yet??

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I normally don't join in on the Bioware bashing but now I think it's deserved.

I finished the Squad goal on Gold my first try. Commendation pack, check. (Still not received)
I then tried to continue playing and contribute for the victory pack. Twice I finished wave 10 and the game froze at the beginning of wave 11. I didn't play for the rest of the weekend.

Seriously Bioware..... kill those bugs that ruin the experience before releasing more content.

Modifié par WiLdMaN107, 18 juillet 2012 - 09:13 .


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I want my damn commedation pack already. stop ****ing off and get your **** in gear Bioware