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[JeffZero]

LaughingDragon wrote...

Applepie_Svk wrote...

Firecell11 wrote...

Jsxdf wrote...

"Leviathan can join Shepard's fight against the other Reapers, presumably becoming a War Asset."

cool, a 15 dollar war asset

+10 war assets and never shown in the cinematics

It´s an art...

Someone explain to me the appeal of pre-ending DLC, that will result in the same ending?

I'm retarded please help.

Goes back to my argument from earlier. ME1's Bring Down The Sky and ME2's Overlord didn't alter their endings at all, either, but hot damn if I don't have fun with them each and every time. A fellow forum member pointed out to me a while back (in this thread or some other, I really don't remember) that the difference is that ME1 and ME2 always had cliffhanger-esque endings, so in ME3 suddenly it should be different.

While I appreciate their viewpoint, I disagree. Not everything in the game ought to have a direct, eye-opening, tone-shifting impact on the endings; good DLC that stands on its own quality-wise and contributes to the framework of the Mass Effect universe in a meaningful, enjoyable way should still be purchased IMO.

Modifié par JeffZero, 10 juillet 2012 - 05:23 .

[Simotech]

Leviathan dlc will unlock this new ending

[Leonia]

At least Overlord's choice was reflected in ME3 (and Bring Down the Sky, come to think of it). The difficulty with ME3 is that it's the final chapter so we already know how everything ends unless the DLCs are intended to expand on that. I'd like to imagine pre-ending DLC can stand on its own merit but in the context of what we know already from finishing the story, it's going to be really hard to appreciate anything that doesn't progress the plot or radically alter what we thought about it before.

[JeffZero]

leonia42 wrote...

At least Overlord's choice was reflected in ME3 (and Bring Down the Sky, come to think of it). The difficulty with ME3 is that it's the final chapter so we already know how everything ends unless the DLCs are intended to expand on that. I'd like to imagine pre-ending DLC can stand on its own merit but in the context of what we know already from finishing the story, it's going to be really hard to appreciate anything that doesn't progress the plot or radically alter what we thought about it before.

I'm genuinely sorry you feel that way, and whenever a fellow fan voices their concerns over such things in a constructive manner, it does tug at my heartstrings a little. I certainly wouldn't be remotely opposed to such things as you're suggesting, because while I enjoy the endings now with Extended Cut, there's certainly room for further growth. So for your sake, I hope Leviathan offers such things, but the odds are fairly slim, so otherwise I hope you can appreciate it to some extent of how much I will, barring it being flat-out bad, of course.

[NM_Che56]

ok, if you scroll for images of Anthony Skordi on google you see my avatar about 8 rows down because of this thread LOL.

http://www.google.co...iw=1280&bih=599

Modifié par Master Che, 10 juillet 2012 - 05:30 .

[Leonia]

I'll enjoy it because it means playing in the ME universe again but I doubt I'll feel the same about it as previous DLCs. But time will tell, we shall see.

[MegaSovereign]

leonia42 wrote...

At least Overlord's choice was reflected in ME3 (and Bring Down the Sky, come to think of it). The difficulty with ME3 is that it's the final chapter so we already know how everything ends unless the DLCs are intended to expand on that. I'd like to imagine pre-ending DLC can stand on its own merit but in the context of what we know already from finishing the story, it's going to be really hard to appreciate anything that doesn't progress the plot or radically alter what we thought about it before.

The From Ashes DLC didn't really affect the endings but it gave us a lot of insight on the Protheans. The Leviathan of Dis could expand the lore in similar ways.

And all Overlord did was give you some war assets (like 50 I think?)

[Grubas]

LaughingDragon wrote...

Someone explain to me the appeal of pre-ending DLC, that will result in the same ending?

I'm retarded please help.

Well we all knew how titanic will end. 

Also what do i care what starbrat has to say in the end, whether i want retake omega or not. 

[CannotCompute]

I hope the DLC will unlock an extended Refusal ending whenever you got 3500 War Assets + Leviathan. An ending that will result in winning the war against the Reapers conventionally + ofcourse a reunion with Shep's closest friends + maaaaybe (optional) alien / human babies

[Grubas]

CannotCompute wrote...

I hope the DLC will unlock an extended Refusal ending whenever you got 3500 War Assets + Leviathan. An ending that will result in winning the war against the Reapers conventionally + ofcourse a reunion with Shep's closest friends + maaaaybe (optional) alien / human babies

U forgot to add ponys and dinosaurs ^^ 

[NM_Che56]

MegaSovereign wrote...

leonia42 wrote...

At least Overlord's choice was reflected in ME3 (and Bring Down the Sky, come to think of it). The difficulty with ME3 is that it's the final chapter so we already know how everything ends unless the DLCs are intended to expand on that. I'd like to imagine pre-ending DLC can stand on its own merit but in the context of what we know already from finishing the story, it's going to be really hard to appreciate anything that doesn't progress the plot or radically alter what we thought about it before.

The From Ashes DLC didn't really affect the endings but it gave us a lot of insight on the Protheans. The Leviathan of Dis could expand the lore in similar ways.

And all Overlord did was give you some war assets (like 50 I think?)

It also gave you insight into the Illusive Man's notion of "Control" being an option for the Reapers.

The primary role of ME2 DLC seems to have been to give you more background for ME3. 

LOTSB: How Liara became the Shadowbroker, what the hell are Yaghs, who's Feron (if you don't have comics), Liara's role in keeping your corpse out of collector claws (I think this is discussed here),

The Arrival: Why Sheapard is grounded and detained by the Alliance in Vancouver, how the Reapers eventually get here (via indoctrination.  They tried indoctrinating Alliance scientists first...then went with Batarians. Eitherway, ground zero for the invasion was going to be batarian space.  Pretty clever.  Humans were the target and given the emnity between the Batarians and Humans, there would be no real alliance presence to oppose the invasion).

[sUiCiDeKiNgS13]

I'm staring to hate the word "speculate"

[nitefyre410]

MegaSovereign wrote...

leonia42 wrote...

At least Overlord's choice was reflected in ME3 (and Bring Down the Sky, come to think of it). The difficulty with ME3 is that it's the final chapter so we already know how everything ends unless the DLCs are intended to expand on that. I'd like to imagine pre-ending DLC can stand on its own merit but in the context of what we know already from finishing the story, it's going to be really hard to appreciate anything that doesn't progress the plot or radically alter what we thought about it before.

The From Ashes DLC didn't really affect the endings but it gave us a lot of insight on the Protheans. The Leviathan of Dis could expand the lore in similar ways.

And all Overlord did was give you some war assets (like 50 I think?)

 

and a rather toching reunion with David during the Grissom Acedemy misson if you  shut down Overlord.   

[Tealjaker94]

Anyone else play Halo: Reach? The game literally shows you a picture of your broken helmet as the first scene in the game. I know I'm going to die, we will lose Reach, and that in the end Master Chief will be the real hero. That doesn't mean I don't enjoy the story and gameplay. If you disagree I respect your opinion but plenty of others including myself will still gladly play a DLC with no effect on the ending.

[Fnork]

Firecell11 wrote...

Jsxdf wrote...

"Leviathan can join Shepard's fight against the other Reapers, presumably becoming a War Asset."

cool, a 15 dollar war asset

+10 war assets and never shown in the cinematics

I'm thinking it'll probably be between 10 or 20 times that. That way it can be marketed as: "Recruiting the Leviathan for your cause will have a massive impact on the endings".

[Firecell11]

Fnork wrote...

Firecell11 wrote...

Jsxdf wrote...

"Leviathan can join Shepard's fight against the other Reapers, presumably becoming a War Asset."

cool, a 15 dollar war asset

+10 war assets and never shown in the cinematics

I'm thinking it'll probably be between 10 or 20 times that. That way it can be marketed as: "Recruiting the Leviathan for your cause will have a massive impact on the endings".

LOLED...smells familiar

[darkchief10]

sUiCiDeKiNgS13 wrote...

I'm staring to hate the word "speculate"

this

[Seifer006]

a rogue reaper????

wow. seriously bioware. how about Wrex and Aria. Grunt and Zaeed or all of them in one DLC. a rogue reaper doesn't.............seem to fit the story lore

but then the ending of me3 didn't either

[Zardoc]

 

Leviathan has been separated from the rest of the Reaper forces for 10 years after killing one of its own kind.

I sincerely hope this is a typo...

[Tazzmission]

from what i read itll be like from ashes and hint at future dlc

im wondering if shepard will have visions or something

[JeffZero]

Zardoc wrote...

 

Leviathan has been separated from the rest of the Reaper forces for 10 years after killing one of its own kind.

I sincerely hope this is a typo...

I'm fairly confident it is. It's just a gaming article, they make mistakes.

[Iakus]

crimzontearz wrote...

No reunion no purchase

Yup.

The journey's pointless when you dread the destination

[Atakuma]

Sounds good to me.

[Dusen]

Master Che wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

So Leviathan IS a rogue Reaper after all?

How is the Crucible going to discriminate between him and the other Reapers?

Enter your delimma.  Lol.  Bioware wants that to factor into your decision.


The catalyst said the first true reaper did not agree w the solution.  Sounds like Leviathan.  The ME timeline starts with leviathans "death" in 1billion BCE, afterall. Given his disapproval, id bet id be be doing him a favor by selecting destroy.

That would just convolute the story even more considering Harbinger is supposed to be the oldest Reaper. . . but it wouldn't be anything new for Bioware.

[NM_Che56]

Zardoc wrote...

 

Leviathan has been separated from the rest of the Reaper forces for 10 years after killing one of its own kind.

I sincerely hope this is a typo...

they missed a few zeros.  It's not like one Reaper can just slip into the Milky Way undetected.