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[Kohaku]

klarabella wrote...

Herr Uhl wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

Decomposey wrote...
After all, what do you think is harder, bending the fabric of reality to your will, or getting a sperm into an egg?

True. Maybe you can find a mage who's fully specced out their Fertility spell line.

(he uses his own sperm and another females egg to impregnate you)

I recall a spell called PURGE on WoW. I might borrow that just for fun and the pleasure of finding loopholes to the bitter truth.

Was that for the Priest or Druid? I swear I had that spell but thought it was for poison. Bah. Anything works. I know I have a spell book around here...

[Taleroth]

I would think Shaman, at least from what I recall of WC3.

Edit: Great, now I'm thinking Druid again.  Was it a Dryad autocast?  This is going to bother me for at least half an hour.

Modifié par Taleroth, 16 décembre 2009 - 10:53 .

[nos_astra]

Taleroth wrote...

klarabella wrote...
I recall a spell called PURGE on WoW. I might borrow that just for fun and the pleasure of finding loopholes to the bitter truth.

I don't see the connection in these two posts.  I'm not sure I want to see it.

But the curiosity...

I just wanted to "purge" the taint from their blood. That's not what you expected, is it?

Sorry, English is just not my language. And the quote probably didn't make any sense.

Modifié par klarabella, 16 décembre 2009 - 10:55 .

[OneBadAssMother]

I wonder if 2 tainted parents would give birth to a baby Hurlock myself =/

[Taleroth]

klarabella wrote...

Taleroth wrote...

klarabella wrote...
I recall a spell called PURGE on WoW. I might borrow that just for fun and the pleasure of finding loopholes to the bitter truth.

I don't see the connection in these two posts.  I'm not sure I want to see it.

But the curiosity...

I just wanted to "purge" the taint from their blood. That's not what you expected, is it?

No, it's not, but THANK SCIENCE for that.  Because it's not nearly as creepy as I suspected.

Sorry, English is just not my language. And the quote didn't make any sense.

Your english is perfect.

[Kohaku]

Taleroth wrote...

I would think Shaman, at least from what I recall of WC3.

Edit: Great, now I'm thinking Druid again.  Was it a Dryad autocast?  This is going to bother me for at least half an hour.

You're right. I must have gotten it early on with a character then.

[Thiefy]

Wow gone for only 2 hours and there's like 7 extra pages....

David Gaider wrote...
I'll point out that Alistair does bring this up, and in fact breaks up with a female player because he feels it's his duty to bear children -- unless she convinces him that there are more important things, like being happy.

If being able to marry the man you love is insufficient because you must also bear his children in order for you to be happy, then sure. I guess you'll be unhappy -- barring some kind of unforeseen circumstance occuring.

And my second post was not a pat-pat on the poster's head to make her feel better... there are always ways that these sorts of rules can get circumvented. Alistair did not, after all, say to you "two Grey Wardens cannot have children, except for the extremely rare possibility of them recovering the Holy Elixir of Saradesh or somehow purging their blood of the taint through unknown sorts of blood magic... but normally? Not a chance."

As far as anyone (including Alistair) knows, under normal circumstances two Grey Wardens cannot have children with each other. I didn't mention unknown exceptions because they're unknown -- that should just be assumed. And that's just the way it is.

Yeah he did bring it up, but that was after I announced at the landsmeet that I was dragging him to the alter. I thought that with my pc's Cousland upbringing she'd help ease him into court life. He already seemed convinced when he came to meet her at Arl Eamon's estate, and didn't make much of an arguement to try to get out of it if he was worried about duty. He seemed like he convinced himself? I dunno, but my pc was willing to go with it.

It just sounded like there was a chance, naturally, for them to procreate. A 1 in one million chance, but it was there. Kind of like birth control pills - it's not saying you can't 100% get pregnant, it's just highly unlikely. Now if you have a vasectomy, you KNOW you aren't getting pregnant. It's 2 different things.

But hey if I have to do a sidequest or DLC in order to do that, I'm game too. Just seems a bit weird to go questing for fertility pills....

I like the other post the best. No consequnces, and lots of mini alistairs running around. We'll make an army. One that can take down potential demon god babies. They'll all be spec'd different too, for different specialization.

Oh and then the mabaris. Every kid deserves a mabari. I imagine it would be something akin to Sten's living nightmare with all the noise and the dogs. We'll make sure to have cookies (the sandwhich kind that has flavored fudge in the middle).

[Herr Uhl]

Thief-of-Hearts wrote...
Oh and then the mabaris. Every kid deserves a mabari. I imagine it would be something akin to Sten's living nightmare with all the noise and the dogs. We'll make sure to have cookies (the sandwhich kind that has flavored fudge in the middle).

He would probably quite like it being a lot of mabari. The most sensible Fereldans there is.

[bobsmyuncle]

Herr Uhl wrote...
He would probably quite like it being a lot of mabari. The most sensible Fereldans there is.

He would. Aside from Shale, Dog is his favorite party member.

Dog is a true warrior, and worthy of respect

[Thiefy]

bobsmyuncle wrote...

Herr Uhl wrote...
He would probably quite like it being a lot of mabari. The most sensible Fereldans there is.

He would. Aside from Shale, Dog is his favorite party member.

Dog is a true warrior, and worthy of respect

yeah but he hates the smell.

[Herr Uhl]

Thief-of-Hearts wrote...

yeah but he hates the smell.

It is the regular Fereldans that smell like wet dog, not the Mabari.

Modifié par Herr Uhl, 16 décembre 2009 - 11:27 .

[nos_astra]

Thief-of-Hearts wrote...
But hey if I have to do a sidequest or DLC in order to do that, I'm
game too. Just seems a bit weird to go questing for fertility pills....

Well, I thought about something less silly. Like a long epic quest chain about the dark and unrevealed Grey Warden secrets and the taint that by accident provides a solution to the problem. Just like ... uh, some dark ritual thingy to not have your soul blown to bits when killing the archdemon. A marvellous coincidence.

Modifié par klarabella, 16 décembre 2009 - 11:15 .

[Kohaku]

klarabella wrote...

Thief-of-Hearts wrote...
But hey if I have to do a sidequest or DLC in order to do that, I'm
game too. Just seems a bit weird to go questing for fertility pills....

Well, I thought about something less silly. Like a long epic quest chain about the dark and unrevealed Grey Warden secrets and the taint that by accident provides a solution to the problem. Just like ... uh, some dark ritual thingy to not have your soul blown to bits when killing the archdemon. A marvellous coincidence.

I think anything is possible. I'm going to start messing around with the toolset today to see what I can do. If I don't get wrapped up into Case Closed to much.

[Gold Dragon]

Steal another pinch of Ashes from the Urn and use them after the Fight. Human Noble Female PC is now normal, no longer a true Warden.

Modifié par A Golden Dragon, 16 décembre 2009 - 11:54 .

[Thiefy]

klarabella wrote...

Thief-of-Hearts wrote...
But hey if I have to do a sidequest or DLC in order to do that, I'm
game too. Just seems a bit weird to go questing for fertility pills....

Well, I thought about something less silly. Like a long epic quest chain about the dark and unrevealed Grey Warden secrets and the taint that by accident provides a solution to the problem. Just like ... uh, some dark ritual thingy to not have your soul blown to bits when killing the archdemon. A marvellous coincidence.

You mean like that potion I drank in the Warden's Keep that unlocked my X-men like super powers?

[AtreiyaN7]

Hmm, am I the only female not bothered by the idea of her PC and Alistair not having children? I'd just be happy to have him around for 30-odd years myself. Even if he had to be King Alistair, there is always the mistress/concubine option (depending on your being a human noble or not, etc.) & maybe you get to keep the Thierin bloodline going. Personally, I'd be fine with someone else going through the misery (or "joy") of being preggers anyway, and if my Warden had a burning desire to pass on her genes, she could always borrow Bann Teagan for a while or Zevran or someone reasonably attractive - or keep trying with Alistair (even if it's pretty much impossible short of magical intervention/a miracle, who says it wouldn't be fun trying).

Since I have little in the way of maternal instincts, my character pretty much doesn't give a flying fig (mostly). I can barely stand some of the authors I work for & kids must be a million times worse when I already can't stand whining about inverted apostrophes and commas and "why didn't you make my non-footnote into a REAL footnote - you should have just magically known that I wanted it specially formatted even though it's not actually a footnote or anything" - err, what was I saying? Oh right, kids have to be a million times worse than authors (no offense to David Gaider - I'm sure that formatting his work would actually be super-awesome!), plus you have to clean up their poo & feed them until they can take care of that themselves (kids I mean, not the authors). How much glory is there in that for a Warden, eh? Good thing my own fanfic doesn't involve having kiddies anytime soon (just the temporary care of an orphan/potential apprentice as a minor storyline, but that doesn't quite count since she's old enough to feed herself, etc.  ).

Modifié par AtreiyaN7, 17 décembre 2009 - 12:21 .

[Kohaku]

AtreiyaN7 wrote...

Hmm, am I the only female not bothered by the idea of her PC and Alistair not having children? I'd just be happy to have him around for 30-odd years myself. Even if he had to be King Alistair, there is always the mistress/concubine option (depending on your being a human noble or not, etc.) & maybe you get to keep the Thierin bloodline going. Personally, I'd be fine with someone else going through the misery (or "joy") of being preggers anyway, and if my Warden had a burning desire to pass on her genes, she could always borrow Bann Teagan for a while or Zevran or someone reasonably attractive - or keep trying with Alistair (even if it's pretty much impossible short of magical intervention/a miracle, who says it wouldn't be fun trying).

Since I have little in the way of maternal instincts, my character pretty much doesn't give a flying fig (mostly). I can barely stand some of the authors I work for & kids must be a million times worse when I already can't stand whining about inverted apostrophes and commas and "why didn't you make my non-footnote into a REAL footnote - you should have just magically known that I wanted it specially formatted even though it's not actually a footnote or anything" - err, what was I saying? Oh right, kids have to be a million times worse than authors (no offense to David Gaider - I'm sure that formatting his work would actually be super-awesome!), plus you have to clean up their poo & feed them until they can take care of that themselves (kids I mean, not the authors). How much glory is there in that for a Warden, eh? Good thing my own fanfic doesn't involve having kiddies anytime soon (just the temporary care of an orphan/potential apprentice as a minor storyline, but that doesn't quite count since she's old enough to feed herself, etc.  ).

It doesn't matter to me. I just like knowing as much factual information as I can. If something can't be done and there is a reason, I accept it.

[bobsmyuncle]

Thief-of-Hearts wrote...
yeah but he hates the smell.

So you bathe the dogs. It's quite practical too, a true warrior knows the importance of good hygiene and bathing regularly (it's so your enemies don't smell you coming. It's tactically important!).

[bobsmyuncle]

AtreiyaN7 wrote...

Hmm, am I the only female not bothered by the idea of her PC and Alistair not having children?

Personally, no. I love kids but I don't have any notions of "bearing children = happiness." It's disappointing but it's not like the inability to conceive makes your relationship invalid*.

I figure my mage PC would beat the Templars to at least one mage child while running around Ferelden recruiting for the Wardens, or otherwise start taking in strays.

And it's honestly not the end of the world to run off to Orlais with Alistair to live in sin and eat cake without kids to take care of. In fact, some parents would be green with envy

*unless you're royalty, in which case your inability to conceive might get people killed.

Modifié par bobsmyuncle, 17 décembre 2009 - 12:44 .

[Kohaku]

bobsmyuncle wrote...

And it's honestly not the end of the world to run off to Orlais with Alistair to live in sin and eat cake without kids to take care of. In fact, some parents would be green with envy

Isn't this the only way?

[Thiefy]

AtreiyaN7 wrote...

Hmm, am I the only female not bothered by the idea of her PC and Alistair not having children?

No, it won't be a problem for my city elf or dwarven princess, if they choose to go after alistair over zev, since in that case, they won't put alistair on the throne. well not as much anyway. while i'm sure they'd like kids eventually, it's not a gut wrencher if it never happens, since they know they are headed to the deep roads in the long run.

it is more or less required of my noble pc though since she made herself queen. i'd hate for alistair to go henry the 8th on me too. not that i think he would but babies are serious business.

I know my noble female didnt have to put alistair on the throne, but she just felt he was the better choice. Even characters who aren't romancing him or are male will probably do it because she's a shady character, at her best. I personally dont want Anora on the throne, so Alistair goes up, every time, and in the case of my noble female who is married to him, or going to be, it's very important to make babies with him. Out of duty and love.
 

Afterall she owes her mother another grandchild.

[Inakhia]

No your not the only one whos not bothered by no kids. I consider it mildly important for the Theirin bloodline and Ferelden, but that's nothing that can't be bypassed by a handy mistress for Al to conceive with. If my consort char really decided that she wanted kids as well, especially considering her family had been nearly annihilated... well as noted above, there's always Teagan or Zev who I'm sure would be moer than willing to donate a little genetic material.

Its not like nobility and a basketful full of bastards running around are anything new, just ask poor Sergeant Kylon. At least our bastards would be properly raised and trained. =D

[bobsmyuncle]

Inakhia wrote...

No your not the only one whos not bothered by no kids. I consider it mildly important for the Theirin bloodline and Ferelden, but that's nothing that can't be bypassed by a handy mistress for Al to conceive with. If my consort char really decided that she wanted kids as well, especially considering her family had been nearly annihilated... well as noted above, there's always Teagan or Zev who I'm sure would be moer than willing to donate a little genetic material.
Its not like nobility and a basketful full of bastards running around are anything new, just ask poor Sergeant Kylon. At least our bastards would be properly raised and trained. =D

As interesting as the idea of borrowing Teagan is, I'm not sure if Alistair could handle an open relationship. And if both the King and Queen were separately bed-hopping... well, the gossip at your PC's court would certainly never be boring

[Thiefy]

eh is it really that hard to understand that some girls just want a normal relationship that results in, you know, a normal family? meaning both partners are faithful to each other under any and all circumstances? that the wife be the mother of the children and the husband be the father of the children? maybe I am just too traditional, or something, but that kind of stuff is special. at least to alistair and my noble pc (who i identify the most with).



and i don't mind working or suffering for that ending, if there's any possibility of it happening. i just think it's one of those things can't be compromised with mistresses (even though it already is with morrigan) or other bed mates. i know that the whole premise of the DA series is that it's a dark fantasy, but i would hope that it doesn't necessarily mean that regardless of whatever our actions or however hard we fight/work the outcome will always be tragic or sad.

[Herr Uhl]

Thief-of-Hearts wrote...
and i don't mind working or suffering for that ending, if there's any possibility of it happening. i just think it's one of those things can't be compromised with mistresses (even though it already is with morrigan) or other bed mates. i know that the whole premise of the DA series is that it's a dark fantasy, but i would hope that it doesn't necessarily mean that regardless of whatever our actions or however hard we fight/work the outcome will always be tragic or sad.

See romancing Morrigan. If you want the happy ones, with prospect of kids, you'll have to go for the straight ones involving Zev or Leli.

What happens after those postcards, if you find the "Holy Elixir of Sardesh" is up to you. It is possible that there is a way to have two GW having kids, but that you'll find it is not probable.