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[KariTR]

LynxAQ wrote...

Its approximately 30 years after being tainted. Not up to the age of 30. As for slim chance of having kids, not a problem. There is actually an option ingame to say something along the lines, looks like we will be very busy then.

"It won't be for lack of trying"

[XOGHunter246]

Yeah i was mainly aiming this to two tainted getting married as in marrying Alistair because this doubles the chances of having no children to carry on the royal family. As anora is not tainted it better he marry her I'll probably anger some of the ladies here sorry

Modifié par XOGHunter246, 16 décembre 2009 - 04:45 .

[TheLadyJess]

This actually plays into a fanfic I'm writing called "Children of the Grey" about the twin son and daughter of Alistair and the Warden.

[TonyV]

Doesn't Averrnus's Elixir (Soldiers Peak) change the 'taint' in some way? Did all those wardens die in vain? He (Averrnus) seemed quite excited about 'energy and blood' or some such which he claimed affected the properties of the wardens' own taint...Or am I misunderstanding the situation?

[Original182]

The truth hurts. The Theirin bloodline must continue.

[TheGreenLion]

For the OP, yes you might as well live up your last 30ish years. Taint's gunna kill ya but nobody said you can't have fun (not to say that all marriages are for fun) all the way up to that point. If they ever fix the ol' Warden's Keep to the point that Avernus finds a solution to increase your longevity(not that that's all he's looking for, probably still focused on the "power of blood" stuff.). Then maybe ya won't have to worry about that anyway.

[Herr Uhl]

TonyV wrote...

Doesn't Averrnus's Elixir (Soldiers Peak) change the 'taint' in some way? Did all those wardens die in vain? He (Averrnus) seemed quite excited about 'energy and blood' or some such which he claimed affected the properties of the wardens' own taint...Or am I misunderstanding the situation?

You did gain 2 new abilities, didn't you?

[XOGHunter246]

TonyV wrote...

Doesn't Averrnus's Elixir (Soldiers Peak) change the 'taint' in some way? Did all those wardens die in vain? He (Averrnus) seemed quite excited about 'energy and blood' or some such which he claimed affected the properties of the wardens' own taint...Or am I misunderstanding the situation?

he's a mage wouldn't surprise me a mage can find some way in bloodmagic to change it

[Zamav]

LynxAQ wrote...

The taint is not passed to the children of the grey wardens. The taint is not hereditary. Levi Dryden is living proof of that.

I think if you tried every night for 10 years to have a baby, you would end up pregnant, unless you had some real medical / physical reason you couldnt have children, but then that has nothing to do with the taint.

Except, Morrigan says the child will carry the taint therefore lure the Archdemons soul to it, through the taint.

Levi Dryden could be the son of a non-warden family member, we don't get any indication that all Drydens are wardens. At least, not in game, I didn't read the books, only talking about in-game information.

[Imryll]

Original182 wrote...

Well even if it seems futile, you must ensure the Theirin bloodline continues. The bloodline symbolizes something really important to Ferelden, so you must do whatever it takes to ensure it continues.

On the other hand, Anora was married to Cailan for five years without having children.  There's not much reason to believe her more likely to conceive than a female PC.  And, of course, there may be the God baby, if Alistair fathers it.  There is precedent for a bastard succeeding to the throne. Some also believe that Alistair isn't the son of Maric and Fiona, in which case there may be another child of Maric who could inherit and/or maintain the bloodline.

[TonyV]

Yes, you do gain new abilities - but my reading of the whole 'mad mage' affair was that he was using the wardens (killing them in the process) to find some way to stop the taint eventually consuming them...

[Tirigon]

Saying there is no point in marrying as you will die in 20 years is like saying you can commit suicide right now, one day you´ll die anyways.

[Taleroth]

Tirigon wrote...

Saying there is no point in marrying as you will die in 20 years is like saying you can commit suicide right now, one day you´ll die anyways.

I'm sold.

[XOGHunter246]

The god child now something starting to make me think he/she might be Alistair only child for sequal. what would this mean with morrigan being the mother of  his child?

Modifié par XOGHunter246, 16 décembre 2009 - 05:38 .

[Herr Uhl]

TonyV wrote...

Yes, you do gain new abilities - but my reading of the whole 'mad mage' affair was that he was using the wardens (killing them in the process) to find some way to stop the taint eventually consuming them...

He was not trying to end the taint, he wanted to kill demons. The taint is alien to them so it is super effective. He survived as long as he has through being a blood mage. You get 2 abilities involving your blood, which is what he means by saying "changed".

[Herr Uhl]

Taleroth wrote...

Tirigon wrote...

Saying there is no point in marrying as you will die in 20 years is like saying you can commit suicide right now, one day you´ll die anyways.

I'm sold.

Mass suicide, 19-ish my house?

[XOGHunter246]

Tirigon wrote...

Saying there is no point in marrying as you will die in 20 years is like saying you can commit suicide right now, one day you´ll die anyways.

I didn't mean there no point i mean that it will be very hard to carry on the royal family with two tainted. So it better to marry someone who is not tainted. as Alistair goes on about it being hard to conceive. 

Modifié par XOGHunter246, 16 décembre 2009 - 04:58 .

[LynxAQ]

Zamav wrote...
Except, Morrigan says the child will carry the taint therefore lure the Archdemons soul to it, through the taint.

Levi Dryden could be the son of a non-warden family member, we don't get any indication that all Drydens are wardens. At least, not in game, I didn't read the books, only talking about in-game information.

Morrigan performs a ritual (tapping into bad magics, most likely similar to the ones used in the joining) to allow the taint to transfer to the unborn child. The child does NOT get he taint through normal conception. Levi Dryden is not the only proof of this.

[TheLadyJess]

It is also NOT IMPOSSIBLE for two Wardens to have a child, just very difficult. Plus, since the Dark Ritual was performed, the essence of the Archdemon would be passed unto the "child" of Morrigan and Alistair, not a child of Alistair and whoever else he has a child with.

[Herr Uhl]

Demeira wrote...

It is also NOT IMPOSSIBLE for two Wardens to have a child, just very difficult. Plus, since the Dark Ritual was performed, the essence of the Archdemon would be passed unto the "child" of Morrigan and Alistair, not a child of Alistair and whoever else he has a child with.

Or Loghain or PC male warden.

[XOGHunter246]

Well the PC male warden has a better chance conceiving as he can only marry anora. The female warden will be less likely to conceive as she only can marry Alistair

[David Gaider]

A Grey Warden can have a child... just not with another Grey Warden. So in the case of Alistair being married to a female PC the only possible result is no heir (unless Alistair has a child with someone other than his wife, I suppose). Grey Wardens have a limited chance of conception with a non-Grey Warden, but it does happen... and the child is not tainted in any fashion.



Insofar as how long a Grey Warden could remain on the throne, it depends. The taint will make a Grey Warden age faster, so someone like Loghain isn't going to be able to stay a Grey Warden for very long as he's no young man. The "thirty years" quote is about the maximum, but the reality is that it depends on how often one is exposed to the corruption and sometimes just personal variance-- even so, for a monarch to stay on the throne upwards of thirty years is no mean feat. I don't really think that's the limiting factor when it comes to this sort of thing.

[Herr Uhl]

XOGHunter246 wrote...

Well the PC male warden has a better chance conceiving as he can only marry anora. The female warden will be less likely to conceive as she only can marry Alistair

Or go off on merry adventures with Zev, or do something else.

[Tatooine92]

Nosuchluck wrote...

Aren't grey warden's supposed to be super spechial? I assumed it gave you better reflexes or some nonsense like that.

I think you're thinking of the Jedi.  

[TheLadyJess]

Herr Uhl wrote...

Demeira wrote...

It is also NOT IMPOSSIBLE for two Wardens to have a child, just very difficult. Plus, since the Dark Ritual was performed, the essence of the Archdemon would be passed unto the "child" of Morrigan and Alistair, not a child of Alistair and whoever else he has a child with.

Or Loghain or PC male warden.

Right, I forgot about that!