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[Lookout1390]

dreamgazer wrote...

M25105 wrote...

The video game industry will never become better when people call those that complain about the products they've bought, entitled whiners.

On the other side of the coin, it won't become better when people who actually purchase and enjoy the DLC are considered "apologists" and "drones".

But no one was being accused of that.

Infact being an apologist or drone has nothing to do with the overall product itself.

Companies like Bioware are being reduced in quality due to the strangle-hold EA has on them.

ME3 reflected that directly.

[Tekkez]

I don't know about you, but I look forward to playing more content in the Mass Effect universe regardless of the final outcome.

DLC is like a mini story. I bought all ME2 DLC, and I never expected it would impact on ME3 greatly.. I bought it because I wanted more Mass Effect.

I can't think of any game that adds DLC which changes an ending to a game, it just allows you to play more.

I'd love to see what this rogue Reaper is about. Or how Arias story continues. Or any other DLC they have planned... their impact on the last 5 minutes is irrelevent... it's about Shepards journey.

[Wayning_Star]

as long it's not too expensive and is relatively original game based, and probably never if it's 'online play only' or not for PC. 

[Sundance31us]

Easy guys we're all here because we care about the series; lets try not to bite each others' head off.

[wright1978]

Tekkez wrote...

I don't know about you, but I look forward to playing more content in the Mass Effect universe regardless of the final outcome.

DLC is like a mini story. I bought all ME2 DLC, and I never expected it would impact on ME3 greatly.. I bought it because I wanted more Mass Effect.

I can't think of any game that adds DLC which changes an ending to a game, it just allows you to play more.

I'd love to see what this rogue Reaper is about. Or how Arias story continues. Or any other DLC they have planned... their impact on the last 5 minutes is irrelevent... it's about Shepards journey.

Well i bought all the ME2 story DLC's and would happily buy a good standalone story DLC for ME3. Unfortunately this sounds appalling. So unless it confounds that first impression somehow i will not be buying it.

[Vox Draco]

Tekkez wrote...
I'd love to see what this rogue Reaper is about. Or how Arias story continues. Or any other DLC they have planned... their impact on the last 5 minutes is irrelevent... it's about Shepards journey.

I guess there is the problem...some only care about the journey, others like me care also about where this journey leads to, and for me it leads to Shepard being punished for what s/he is and stands for...

well, to each his/her own, as long as some people have fun I think it is okay, but I think bioware would have sold tons of more DLCs if they had skipped their artistic integrity for a beautifully lame and conventional ending with multiple outcomes based on decisions made prior...

[excelon]

[quote]Malditor wrote...

[quote]Sion1138 wrote...

[quote]Malditor wrote...

If you don't want to see more of the story unveiled, meet new characters and experience new threats/triumphs then by all means don't buy any DLC. But there are a lot of people who DO want to do these things regardless of how the game ends. For us it's not just the destination but the journey we take that matters.[/quote]

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Why are all of you so god damn hostile? What the hell is your problem? 

Nobody threatened you, what the crap is your deal? Seriously.

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Nothing in my post was remotely hostile.... ROFL[/quote]

Is this your first time on the internet?

[Malditor]

excelon wrote...


Is this your first time on the internet?

Strange question, it's obviously not. No idea why anyone would take what I posted as hostile. The question posed in the thread title asked for the incentive and I highlighted the incentive only. I didn't make any negative comment about those who don't want to buy the DLC.

Modifié par Malditor, 10 juillet 2012 - 07:52 .

[Khallos]

dreamgazer wrote...

Storytelling? Lore? More time in the universe? Fun?

Also, who knows: the DLC might alter the context of the endings without physically changing them.

Here's the thing: It seems like the DLC DOES at least add to the talk with the Catalyst. In a different .tlk file within the EC is a set of lines between Shepard and the Catalyst about the Leviathan(s), which, obviously, is no where to be seen within the game as of yet.

[Bizantura]

It will depend on how pi... off I still am at EA/Bioware.
The ME3 end is what it is so I will shut up about it. ME3 had more flaws in my opinion then just the ending, all previous discussed so I'll shut up about it.
There aren't many good story driven RPG's out there and I love MEuniverse/Sheperd/blue babies...

Oh... I so want to punish you EA/Bioware and the only way to do that is holding my purse string tightly shut.

You know a dlc with the quality like LotSB wouldn't be bad....,quite nice actually.

Damned you EA/Bioware, what a predicament!!!

[Conniving_Eagle]

DLC that doesn't affect the ending = pointless.

DLC that doesn't affect the ending but includes Simon Templeman = TAKE MAH MUNNY!

[Hogge87]

M25105 wrote...

See title, ain't gonna bother with a long post when the question is obvious.

It's been asked so many times that it's ridiculous. The question isn't more valid than for any DLC at any point in the franchise. The ending isn't everything. If it was, BW would just have released the ending for 10$ and had a much better profit margin. And noone would've seen Titanic, because everyone knows how it ends. Same goes for any movie about Jesus christ or any other historic person for that matter.

Mass Effect is a game, and SP DLC's will give us more gameplay, as well as some more story.

[Blitzhawk65]

I will not be buying the DLC unless it changes the ending.  Does that make me "entitled"?  No, the new DLC will probably cost around $10, and I can choose to spend my money however I want.  BioWare is not "entitled" to my money, and they do not automatically get it by releasing DLC, they have to create a product that I want and am willing to pay for.  I just stated what that product is.

What is the difference between this DLC and all of the other Mass Effect SP DLCs?  At the time, the ME setting was still open-ended, and it was reasonable to expect that decisions/elements of the DLC would show up in future installments.  If they were not intended to have an impact, then why were there choices at the end of most of them, and in some, debriefings by TIM stating the importance of what just happened?  The entire ME setting now has a definitive and non-reconciliable conclusion (RGB), and presumably nothing that I do in the DLC will have any effect in the future of the setting besides relatively worthless war assets in ME3.  I purchased all of the previous ME SP DLCs because I felt they would have a future effect, in retrospect some had a minor role (ex: Kasumi), and some really did not (ex: Arrival). 

Difference between ME3 DLC and other games' DLCs?  Fallout 3 DLC actually changed the ending, whoever offered that example needs to do some research.  Many other SP DLCs are based off of standalone stories with little/no relation to the main plot that have their own conclusions (ex: all Fallout: New Vegas DLC).  DA:O offered post-game module DLCs that allow you explore what the warden was up to after the Blight.  Post-game DLC changes/expands on the ending by its very definition.  DA:O also offered DLC that carried over to a small degree in DA2 (ex: warden's keep), and offered modules in prequel settings (Leliana's Song).   I could talk myself into buying a ME3 prequel module, and definitely ME3 post-game DLC (which essentially changes the ending), but I can't see myself buying anything that ties into the plot of ME3 (i.e. "war assets," yay!) or a standalone pre-ending ME3 DLC (doesn't make sense in the context of the game and would still ultimately be affected by RGB).

To those complaining about the "complainers," I would suggest that you consider the following.  BSN may not be representative of the entire population of people who have played ME3, but it is representative of the hardcore fan group.  Who do you think is more likely to buy DLC, the hardcore group that frequently checks gaming news and frequently buys ME books, games, etc., or the greater audience of casual players?  The odds are that the casual crowd has already completed the game and moved on to other things, many won't know that a DLC has been released (it's not exactly newsworthy except on gaming sites), will not be able to buy the DLC (ex: no high-speed internet), or won't care enough to shell out another $10 for 1-3 hours of additional content.  Even the most biased ending supporter has to admit that a signifcant part of the hardcore fanbase is disillusioned with ME3 right now, and that is the group that is much more likely to buy DLC.  If SP DLC isn't going to sell enough to make it worthwhile, then Bioware isn't going to make any more.  Conclusion, you all may end up burning yourselves by attempting to burn the complainers.

Modifié par Blitzhawk65, 10 juillet 2012 - 08:42 .

[obZen DF]

Blitzhawk65 wrote...

I will not be buying the DLC unless it changes the ending.  Does that make me "entitled"?  No, the new DLC will probably cost around $10, and I can choose to spend my money however I want.  BioWare is not "entitled" to my money, and they do not automatically get it by releasing DLC, they have to create a product that I want and am willing to pay for.  I just stated what that product is.

What is the difference between this DLC and all of the other Mass Effect SP DLCs?  At the time, the ME setting was still open-ended, and it was reasonable to expect that decisions/elements of the DLC would show up in future installments.  If they were not intended to have an impact, then why were there choices at the end of most of them, and in some, debriefings by TIM stating the importance of what just happened?  The entire ME setting now has a definitive and non-reconciliable conclusion (RGB), and presumably nothing that I do in the DLC will have any effect in the future of the setting besides relatively worthless war assets in ME3.  I purchased all of the previous ME SP DLCs because I felt they would have a future effect, in retrospect some had a minor role (ex: Kasumi), and some really did not (ex: Arrival). 

Difference between ME3 DLC and other games' DLCs?  Fallout 3 DLC actually changed the ending, whoever offered that example needs to do some research.  Many other SP DLCs are based off of standalone stories with little/no relation to the main plot that have their own conclusions (ex: all Fallout: New Vegas DLC).  DA:O offered post-game module DLCs that allow you explore what the warden was up to after the Blight.  Post-game DLC changes/expands on the ending by its very definition.  DA:O also offered DLC that carried over to a small degree in DA2 (ex: warden's keep), and offered modules in prequel settings (Leliana's Song).   I could talk myself into buying a ME3 prequel module, and definitely ME3 post-game DLC (which essentially changes the ending), but I can't see myself buying anything that ties into the plot of ME3 (i.e. "war assets," yay!) or a standalone pre-ending ME3 DLC (doesn't make sense in the context of the game and would still ultimately be affected by RGB).

To those complaining about the "complainers," I would suggest that you consider the following.  BSN may not be representative of the entire population of people who have played ME3, but it is representative of the hardcore fan group.  Who do you think is more likely to buy DLC, the hardcore group that frequently checks gaming news and frequently buys ME books, games, etc., or the greater audience of casual players?  The odds are that the casual crowd has already completed the game and moved on to other things, many won't know that a DLC has been released (it's not exactly newsworthy except on gaming sites), will not be able to buy the DLC (ex: no high-speed internet), or won't care enough to shell out another $10 for 1-3 hours of additional content.  Even the most biased ending supporter has to admit that a signifcant part of the hardcore fanbase is disillusioned with ME3 right now, and that is the group that is much more likely to buy DLC.  If SP DLC isn't going to sell enough to make it worthwhile, then Bioware isn't going to make any more.  Conclusion, you all may end up burning yourselves by attempting to burn the complainers.

Great post you got here. Sums up everything.
But I think that some hardcore fans would love new DLC, regardless of the endings. I'm one of those.
I will buy every singleplayer DLC just because I love the ME universe and the experience such DLC brings with it.
Leviathan of Dis sounds awesome, and if it turns out to be true, I'll buy it at release. It's probably just changin the war asset rating, but when I think about it, I would say to myself: "That was an awesome DLC is just played" and then move on. 

[ABN Tali Fan]

As other people have already said, Its for the experience with new characters and gaining more insight into characters you already know. I really don't care if the DLC has any effect on the ending.

[Galbrant]

Actually I hope it does affect the endings because I like to see Angry Joe gets pissed off.

[Texhnolyze101]

There is no real need to buy dlc when you can just watch it on youtube.

Modifié par 101ezylonhxeT, 10 juillet 2012 - 09:23 .

[wantedman dan]

I'll Youtube the damn DLC's before I buy them. If they don't affect the ending--i.e. making Refusal less an exposition of petulance and more so an ending that it deserves to be--I won't be buying them.

RiouHotaru wrote...

So, because the trilogy ends, you don't care about the rest of the setting?

I see.

Way to miss the point, Riou.

Modifié par wantedman dan, 10 juillet 2012 - 09:25 .

[D24O]

War assets.

[NOD-INFORMER37]

I guess they're just keeping to the tradition of SP in this series(which is a good thing) but other than that none whatsoever OP.

I think its kinda sad, any replays will just feel like the prolonging the walk off the plank, no amount of assets or decisions or pretty much anything accomplished in the DLC will make the remotest inkling of difference in the end, because we're all screwed anyways. :/

Modifié par NOD-INFORMER37, 10 juillet 2012 - 09:26 .

[AnsinJung]

RiouHotaru wrote...

So, because the trilogy ends, you don't care about the rest of the setting?

I see.

I'm pretty sure it's those who wrote the endings that didn't care about the rest of the setting.

Modifié par AnsinJung, 10 juillet 2012 - 09:26 .

[sth128]

Buy the DLC to get a special limited edition armor for Dragon Age 3.

Also, Reaper sex scenes.

[Memnon]

Blitzhawk65 wrote...

To those complaining about the "complainers," I would suggest that you consider the following.  BSN may not be representative of the entire population of people who have played ME3, but it is representative of the hardcore fan group.  Who do you think is more likely to buy DLC, the hardcore group that frequently checks gaming news and frequently buys ME books, games, etc., or the greater audience of casual players?  The odds are that the casual crowd has already completed the game and moved on to other things, many won't know that a DLC has been released (it's not exactly newsworthy except on gaming sites), will not be able to buy the DLC (ex: no high-speed internet), or won't care enough to shell out another $10 for 1-3 hours of additional content.  Even the most biased ending supporter has to admit that a signifcant part of the hardcore fanbase is disillusioned with ME3 right now, and that is the group that is much more likely to buy DLC.  If SP DLC isn't going to sell enough to make it worthwhile, then Bioware isn't going to make any more.  Conclusion, you all may end up burning yourselves by attempting to burn the complainers.

Definitely agree with this - I have been a hard core fan of Mass Effect, and even Bioware since the Baldur's Gate days. For perspective, I own 2 copies of ME2 - 1 normal, 1 collector's edition - and all ME2 DLC, and I own 2 collector's edition copies of ME3. I played ME2 about 20-30 times on Insanity alone. To say that I'm a fan of Bioware and ME is an understatement ... but the ending of ME3 has me completely disillusioned and unmotivated to play anything in the ME universe anymore. Unless the DLC changes the endings, I'm voting with my wallet and not supporting this franchise and the team anymore