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What's the incentive to buy the DLC, when we know the game ends the way it does?


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sth128 wrote...

Buy the DLC to get a special limited edition armor for Dragon Age 3.

Also, Reaper sex scenes.

This is an insta-buy.

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To those complaining about the "complainers," I would suggest that you consider the following.  BSN may not be representative of the entire population of people who have played ME3, but it is representative of the hardcore fan group.  Who do you think is more likely to buy DLC, the hardcore group that frequently checks gaming news and frequently buys ME books, games, etc., or the greater audience of casual players?  The odds are that the casual crowd has already completed the game and moved on to other things, many won't know that a DLC has been released (it's not exactly newsworthy except on gaming sites), will not be able to buy the DLC (ex: no high-speed internet), or won't care enough to shell out another $10 for 1-3 hours of additional content.  Even the most biased ending supporter has to admit that a signifcant part of the hardcore fanbase is disillusioned with ME3 right now, and that is the group that is much more likely to buy DLC.  If SP DLC isn't going to sell enough to make it worthwhile, then Bioware isn't going to make any more.  Conclusion, you all may end up burning yourselves by attempting to burn the complainers.


Definitely agree with this - I have been a hard core fan of Mass Effect, and even Bioware since the Baldur's Gate days. For perspective, I own 2 copies of ME2 - 1 normal, 1 collector's edition - and all ME2 DLC, and I own 2 collector's edition copies of ME3. I played ME2 about 20-30 times on Insanity alone. To say that I'm a fan of Bioware and ME is an understatement ... but the ending of ME3 has me completely disillusioned and unmotivated to play anything in the ME universe anymore. Unless the DLC changes the endings, I'm voting with my wallet and not supporting this franchise and the team anymore


Same here, well said guys. 

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Fortunately for me, the ending didn't ruin the series for me. Not saying I agreed with or liked the way BioWare approached it. I still love the Mass Effect series and I want more Mass Effect. Therefore, more Mass Effect is my incentive to buy DLC.

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Because even though they say it won't change the endings, they could be lying. Bioware has been known to do that. I imagine that after buying all the dlc and picking refusal we see our war assets kick the crap out of the reapers.

Right now the only thing missing between us winning the battle against the reapers and losing it, is a few key pieces aka assets. Leviathan is one of those assets, a reaper that will tell you all of their strengths and weaknesses, as long as you spare him.

It would allow us to beat the reapers in a conventional war and chased them back to dark space thus allowing the possibility of a ME4.

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I know right? I'll watch it on YouTube.

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I just saw a message about DA Origins, Deux Ex HR and ME2. You're missing the point.

Dragon Age Origins was finished damn well, with re-union, happy ending and also Epilogue. People bought it's DLC because the game is already well ended.

Human Revolution was a prequel, so everyone know that endings are kind same or one of them will be taken as cannon. It has three endings, but like i said we already know what happened AFTER HR.

Mass Effect 2 also had very satisfying ending. LotSB, Stolen Memory, Arrival were additional content, and also Arrival extendedd endings of the story (not the game) in ME2. (It didnt matter in ME3, but anyway)

So, by comparing ME3 DLCs which will give you nothing extra, you're just comparing apples with oranges.

Endings are right there, EMS didnt matter, choices didnt matter. The c**p is right there, even if you polish it with some content (EC) it'll remain as c**p.

So, no, DLCs wont matter for the people already played and finished the game.

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Hello genius, would you prefer that you did not get a conclussion after all the DLC's (Which can be infinite amount) would be more of a priority instead?

Bye.

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Sublyminal wrote...

Because even though they say it won't change the endings, they could be lying. Bioware has been known to do that. I imagine that after buying all the dlc and picking refusal we see our war assets kick the crap out of the reapers.

Right now the only thing missing between us winning the battle against the reapers and losing it, is a few key pieces aka assets. Leviathan is one of those assets, a reaper that will tell you all of their strengths and weaknesses, as long as you spare him.

It would allow us to beat the reapers in a conventional war and chased them back to dark space thus allowing the possibility of a ME4.


then the best way might be to abaondon ME for the time being until they have released all DLC and then look if they have truly improved the endings...? The same I did with the EC, I waited, read about it and watched a little and came to the conclusion: Pointless. 

I won't buy a $10 DLC to possibly come to the same conclusion again... 

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There's a lot of nice sequences in ME3, and I'm not playing through them any more because of the ending. The fun and the point of it isn't there anymore.

Chances aren't good that I'm going to pay money to get other sequences that I won't be playing through.

And the other thing - I'm not sure I trust the writers anymore. Not just the whole Messing Up The Ending Twice thing, although that's a big one. After the EC, there's probably some bruised egos in there who want to (a) further support the crappy ending or (B) stick it to the fans who don't like the crappy ending. You might find the secret sauce in your DLC sandwich isn't what you thought it was.

Modifié par Voutsis1982, 10 juillet 2012 - 09:49 .


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Vox Draco wrote...



then the best way might be to abaondon ME for the time being until they have released all DLC and then look if they have truly improved the endings...? The same I did with the EC, I waited, read about it and watched a little and came to the conclusion: Pointless. 

I won't buy a $10 DLC to possibly come to the same conclusion again... 


Agreed

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If you are so hung up on the ending that you can't enjoy the rest of the game, then there is obviously nothing there for you. For those of us who can still enjoy the game, it adds more to the experience.

Modifié par Atakuma, 10 juillet 2012 - 09:50 .


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I fail to see how the ending should even remotely affect your enjoyment of DLC.  Come on, you're essentially saying that because the story ends, DLC is pointless.  Well you know, that pretty much makes all DLC in existence pointless.  Unless the DLC is specifically marketed as changing the ending, DLC doesn't affect it, as a whole.  That's the way DLC works.  So it strikes me as exceeding strange that people want any/all DLC for ME3 to affect the ending.  I'm curious how the result of the game as a whole automatically makes the DLC irrelevant.  I'm not constantly thinking to myself about the ending when I replay a game I really like.  Hell, I still enjoy Bring Down the Sky and Overlord despite the marginal difference they make in not only their respective games, but also the trilogy.  How would new DLC be any different?

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I got a simple answer for the haters if you don't like it don't buy it simple.

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The more chances we give them, the more chances they have to self-correct. Never under estimate the ability of the little shlub in the corner to sneak in something epic. Many great things started from small beginnings...I believe there is still greatness in BioWare...but the little guy in the corner has to have a way out...DLC might be the way...jusy sayin'...

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M25105 wrote...

What's the incentive to buy the DLC, when we know the game ends the way it does?


To learn more about ME Universe...

...And to hear charming Jennifer Hale voice a little more Image IPB

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I enjoyed ME3 and appreciated the updated endings, so I'll buy it. I'm pretty sure that there are enough people who feel as I do and will buy the DLC, making it successful financially (and, hopefully, as entertainment).

I wholeheartedly believe that if the OP isn't happy with ME3 or the endings the best thing s/he can do to help his/her cause is to not buy the DLC. I'm not going to waste my breath trying to convince the OP that s/he really SHOULD enjoy a game s/he didn't, any more that s/he should try to convince me to NOT enjoy and support a game I like very much.

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wizardryforever wrote...

I fail to see how the ending should even remotely affect your enjoyment of DLC.  Come on, you're essentially saying that because the story ends, DLC is pointless.  Well you know, that pretty much makes all DLC in existence pointless.  Unless the DLC is specifically marketed as changing the ending, DLC doesn't affect it, as a whole.  That's the way DLC works.  So it strikes me as exceeding strange that people want any/all DLC for ME3 to affect the ending.  I'm curious how the result of the game as a whole automatically makes the DLC irrelevant.  I'm not constantly thinking to myself about the ending when I replay a game I really like.  Hell, I still enjoy Bring Down the Sky and Overlord despite the marginal difference they make in not only their respective games, but also the trilogy.  How would new DLC be any different?


No. The point is not, "oh, well the story ends. No DLC for me."

The point is "The story ends this way? Why would I buy DLC only for it to end like that?"

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wizardryforever wrote...

I fail to see how the ending should even remotely affect your enjoyment of DLC.  Come on, you're essentially saying that because the story ends, DLC is pointless.  Well you know, that pretty much makes all DLC in existence pointless.  Unless the DLC is specifically marketed as changing the ending, DLC doesn't affect it, as a whole.  That's the way DLC works.  So it strikes me as exceeding strange that people want any/all DLC for ME3 to affect the ending.  I'm curious how the result of the game as a whole automatically makes the DLC irrelevant.  I'm not constantly thinking to myself about the ending when I replay a game I really like.  Hell, I still enjoy Bring Down the Sky and Overlord despite the marginal difference they make in not only their respective games, but also the trilogy.  How would new DLC be any different?


"Come on, you're essentially saying that because the story ends, DLC is pointless"

No, what many like myself are saying is this:

"Because the story ends in a horrific, unfitting, anti-climatic, Mass-effect unworthy way that overshadows anything we did and loved prior to the ending, DLC is pointless, because at the very end still looms the Starkid, its silly logic and a Shepard that get's punished for being the character we grew to love in the first place."

If you see it differently, or do not care, alright. But I cannot play a DLC without thinking about where this all will end anyway, and that makes it pointless for me. You are obviously able to view only segments of a story and ignire the rest, I cannot do this so easily.

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wizardryforever wrote...

I fail to see how the ending should even remotely affect your enjoyment of DLC.  Come on, you're essentially saying that because the story ends, DLC is pointless.  Well you know, that pretty much makes all DLC in existence pointless.  Unless the DLC is specifically marketed as changing the ending, DLC doesn't affect it, as a whole.  That's the way DLC works.  So it strikes me as exceeding strange that people want any/all DLC for ME3 to affect the ending.  I'm curious how the result of the game as a whole automatically makes the DLC irrelevant.  I'm not constantly thinking to myself about the ending when I replay a game I really like.  Hell, I still enjoy Bring Down the Sky and Overlord despite the marginal difference they make in not only their respective games, but also the trilogy.  How would new DLC be any different?


This is exactly what I think.

People who aren't going to be buying any DLC for ME3 must not buy any extra content for any other game.

Also they only ever watch a TV show or movie once... because they cannot possibly enjoy it again if they know how it is going to end.

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I hate the endings, don't belevee the EC helped much but I might buy a DLC.. why ? Because there was almost no time with ME2 squadmates in ME3 and I miss it. If there is a DLC that adds that I'll buy it. And pretend the ending never happened :P

Modifié par Renmiri1, 10 juillet 2012 - 10:07 .


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People are still complaining about the ending? I mean come on, give it a break already. The ending was bad, we get it! Just stop like really. lmao

I thought the game before the ending was AMAZING. If DLC can make it even better? I am going to buy it the first chance I get.

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RiouHotaru wrote...

So, because the trilogy ends, you don't care about the rest of the setting?

I see.


Replying to this post because I believe it would also apply to a statement I was about to make.

I care about the setting.  I care very deeply about the setting.  I absolutely hate everything else that was made to transpire since the first game.  Regardless of what anyone says, I do (absolutely) feel that ME3 did part of what should have been ME2's job.  I hate that characters in the story were made dumb to give us what they gave us.  No, I'm not even considering the ending of ME3 because when I got to the end, I was so blase about it that I think a pop up in-game telling me that I won 10k real money wouldn't have elicited much of a reaction...until much later.

Don't get me wrong, there were a few things that made me chuckle in the game and some part that I thought were cool, but I was let down from the moment Shepard told Anderson, "You know we're not ready if it is them."  Right then and there, I knew that this wasn't the story I was looking forward to.  This is not worth the $85 investment I made.  I remember going to see Iron Man, a character I'm not fond of, during a matinee showing and wishing I paid full price to see the movie.  I remember wanting an action flick and going to see Ultraviolet for just that, only to walk out of there feeling like I got bonus material for the money I spent.  Likewise, I saw Mass Effect at Circuit City when it was going to close down and looking to see how far the price would drop before I bought it.  Then after playing it, I felt I should have bought it when it was first put out for PC.  ME2, I feel, is worth half what I paid for it considering I feel it was only an expansion and not an actual sequel.

ME3, is no where near worth the amount I paid for it.  There's a few things that are good about it, but there's nothing that actually redeems the game.  It's like eating the remnants of a burned meal.  Sure, you manage to salvage something edible, but your entire experience with the meal leaves you wishing you went somewhere else for dinner.  After something like that, I'm not interested in dessert (dlc) or the prospect of being charged for it. 

The EC (continuing with the meal analogy...yes, I'm currently hungry and want to grab a bite), was like taking anything that the restaurant is giving out for hopes of feeling like I got something out of the whole experience.  I mean DA2 didn't let me down this bad and I think DA2 is ok for a one shot, but has terrible replay value.  ME3 doesn't have any replay value for me so any possible dlc that isn't free isn't going to interest me.

In the end, I'm just waiting to see what happens.  If there's nothing more I can get for the $85 I already spent on this game, then I'll leave and be grateful to finally uninstall Origin.

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I don't know. Maybe they're gonna add Sgt. Gardner's Calamari Gumbo recipe.


Laugh all you want; I buy Robert Rodriguez movies on DVD solely (vs acquiring them by other means) for the recipe Easter Eggs he includes

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same reason there was with DA:O and ME2.....

but as ive stated in other threads....im soooo apprehensive about purchasing the Leviathan of Dis dlc.... ASSUMING IT IS REAL. it sounds like utter bunk.

i would love DLC related to Omega and the Citadel Invasion though.

The incentive? more ME and expansion/augmentation of ME3's story.

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I knew how ME2 ended before buying Shadow Broker. That was never the problem.