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[Femlob]

Vikali wrote...

iggy4566 wrote...

Vikali wrote...

iggy4566 wrote...

Vikali wrote...

Because some people like to know what happened n some of the situations outside of the game that we read about. Some of us love characters outside of the main cast, and didn't like that most of them only got 3 minute cameos.

If you don't want to buy DLC, then don't buy it. But different strokes for different folks. I, for one, would love to see some DLC. It would be fun. But not everyone finds the same things fun. And that's okay. :3

Thats nice but I'm not done calling bioware on their Horse crap.

I fail to find that statement relevant. The question was, what is the incentive. The answer is because there are people out there who would love DLC. Calling Bioware out on their crap is unrelated. Sounds like you are just fishing up an excuse to complain.

And like I said thats nice that there are folk who want to buy DLC but I won't let bioware off the hook.

Lol. Are you a teenager by chance? You won't let them off the hook? I'm sure they're quivering in their boots. A teenager comes to the foums everyday to complain (most likely because he has nothing better to do in he summer) about vdeo games and his first world problems of not liking how it ended. He doesn't have the gusto to redirect tht passion onto better things, like you know, the community. But he's really making a difference by making this company top of his hit list.

Oh boy. You keep it up sir.

Ah, ad hominem. I was wondering when you'd show up.

[JPR1964]

for me none : end of the line...

JPR out!

[CSunkyst]

RiouHotaru wrote...

So, because the trilogy ends, you don't care about the rest of the setting?

I see.

No, because the trilogy ends BADLY I don't care about the rest of the setting.  Right now I greatly regret that I ever played Mass Effect 1 in the first place.  I invested a lot of time and energy into those characters and my player avatar before being forced to commit suicide in the worst most tacked on "heroic sacrafice" I've ever had the displeasure of experiencing, and NO, seeing "my" lonely charred body take one desperate gasp of air does NOT make up for stabbing a friend and a whole bunch of allies in the back.

Unlike Red Dead Redemption's John Marston, Shepard was more of an avatar than a character.  And while I would give my life up for my family, I wouldn't be happy that it had to go down that way in the first place, it wouldn't be a desierable ending for my life.  Unfortunately that's how my time AS Commander Shepard HAS to end.  

Knowing that's how it all ends, why the hell would I want to spend ANY more time in that setting?  I regret all the time I wasted in the ME universe as it is.  

[Vikali]

Femlob wrote...

Vikali wrote...

iggy4566 wrote...

Vikali wrote...

iggy4566 wrote...

Vikali wrote...

Because some people like to know what happened n some of the situations outside of the game that we read about. Some of us love characters outside of the main cast, and didn't like that most of them only got 3 minute cameos.

If you don't want to buy DLC, then don't buy it. But different strokes for different folks. I, for one, would love to see some DLC. It would be fun. But not everyone finds the same things fun. And that's okay. :3

Thats nice but I'm not done calling bioware on their Horse crap.

I fail to find that statement relevant. The question was, what is the incentive. The answer is because there are people out there who would love DLC. Calling Bioware out on their crap is unrelated. Sounds like you are just fishing up an excuse to complain.

And like I said thats nice that there are folk who want to buy DLC but I won't let bioware off the hook.

Lol. Are you a teenager by chance? You won't let them off the hook? I'm sure they're quivering in their boots. A teenager comes to the foums everyday to complain (most likely because he has nothing better to do in he summer) about vdeo games and his first world problems of not liking how it ended. He doesn't have the gusto to redirect tht passion onto better things, like you know, the community. But he's really making a difference by making this company top of his hit list.

Oh boy. You keep it up sir.

Ah, ad hominem. I was wondering when you'd show up.

Don't worry. It's all on topic. Because that's how I feel even though the discussion is unrelated.

[only1sgop]

You never know. Mass Effect 3 might get a reboot just like Evangelion did. However, I don't think there will be any death threats. We did send cupcakes as a nice gesture. ^^ You really never know. The writing team, marketing, producers, and devs might give a F&%^ you ending that is everything we want but in a horrible diabolical twisted way. *Just like when Evangelion ending was redone* Ha Ha! One can only hope.

[elitehunter34]

 Honestly I'm not interested in any single player dlc that doesn't change the ending.  I don't even like paying for dlc in the first place, and with the endings the way they are I have even less desire to spend my cash on any dlc.

It's not the fact that it ended that makes many people disappointed.  It was the way it ended.  It's a big difference, and it's a difference that some people here just aren't getting.

Modifié par elitehunter34, 10 juillet 2012 - 11:02 .

[iggy4566]

Vikali wrote...

iggy4566 wrote...

Vikali wrote...

iggy4566 wrote...

Vikali wrote...

Because some people like to know what happened n some of the situations outside of the game that we read about. Some of us love characters outside of the main cast, and didn't like that most of them only got 3 minute cameos.

If you don't want to buy DLC, then don't buy it. But different strokes for different folks. I, for one, would love to see some DLC. It would be fun. But not everyone finds the same things fun. And that's okay. :3

Thats nice but I'm not done calling bioware on their Horse crap.

I fail to find that statement relevant. The question was, what is the incentive. The answer is because there are people out there who would love DLC. Calling Bioware out on their crap is unrelated. Sounds like you are just fishing up an excuse to complain.

And like I said thats nice that there are folk who want to buy DLC but I won't let bioware off the hook.

Lol. Are you a teenager by chance? You won't let them off the hook? I'm sure they're quivering in their boots. A teenager comes to the foums everyday to complain (most likely because he has nothing better to do in he summer) about vdeo games and his first world problems of not liking how it ended. He doesn't have the gusto to redirect tht passion onto better things, like you know, the community. But he's really making a difference by making this company top of his hit list.

Oh boy. You keep it up sir.

Oh boy How dare I voice my views on the ME3 ending and Please sir keep up being a petty prat.

[Vikali]

iggy4566 wrote...

Vikali wrote...

iggy4566 wrote...

Vikali wrote...

iggy4566 wrote...

Vikali wrote...

Because some people like to know what happened n some of the situations outside of the game that we read about. Some of us love characters outside of the main cast, and didn't like that most of them only got 3 minute cameos.

If you don't want to buy DLC, then don't buy it. But different strokes for different folks. I, for one, would love to see some DLC. It would be fun. But not everyone finds the same things fun. And that's okay. :3

Thats nice but I'm not done calling bioware on their Horse crap.

I fail to find that statement relevant. The question was, what is the incentive. The answer is because there are people out there who would love DLC. Calling Bioware out on their crap is unrelated. Sounds like you are just fishing up an excuse to complain.

And like I said thats nice that there are folk who want to buy DLC but I won't let bioware off the hook.

Lol. Are you a teenager by chance? You won't let them off the hook? I'm sure they're quivering in their boots. A teenager comes to the foums everyday to complain (most likely because he has nothing better to do in he summer) about vdeo games and his first world problems of not liking how it ended. He doesn't have the gusto to redirect tht passion onto better things, like you know, the community. But he's really making a difference by making this company top of his hit list.

Oh boy. You keep it up sir.

Oh boy How dare I voice my views on the ME3 ending and Please sir keep up being a petty prat.

Lol, you voiced no views to me. You ust talking about Bioware being full of BS. I didn't take any time to read any of your previous posts, so even this post is irrelevant.

Modifié par Vikali, 10 juillet 2012 - 11:03 .

[Ryzaki]

CSunkyst wrote...

RiouHotaru wrote...

So, because the trilogy ends, you don't care about the rest of the setting?

I see.

No, because the trilogy ends BADLY I don't care about the rest of the setting.  Right now I greatly regret that I ever played Mass Effect 1 in the first place.  I invested a lot of time and energy into those characters and my player avatar before being forced to commit suicide in the worst most tacked on "heroic sacrafice" I've ever had the displeasure of experiencing, and NO, seeing "my" lonely charred body take one desperate gasp of air does NOT make up for stabbing a friend and a whole bunch of allies in the back.

Unlike Red Dead Redemption's John Marston, Shepard was more of an avatar than a character.  And while I would give my life up for my family, I wouldn't be happy that it had to go down that way in the first place, it wouldn't be a desierable ending for my life.  Unfortunately that's how my time AS Commander Shepard HAS to end.  

Knowing that's how it all ends, why the hell would I want to spend ANY more time in that setting?  I regret all the time I wasted in the ME universe as it is.  

Seriously this.

I'm going to replay JE. At least that gave me a triumphant feeling at the end.

[iggy4566]

Vikali wrote...

iggy4566 wrote...

Vikali wrote...

iggy4566 wrote...

Vikali wrote...

iggy4566 wrote...

Vikali wrote...

Because some people like to know what happened n some of the situations outside of the game that we read about. Some of us love characters outside of the main cast, and didn't like that most of them only got 3 minute cameos.

If you don't want to buy DLC, then don't buy it. But different strokes for different folks. I, for one, would love to see some DLC. It would be fun. But not everyone finds the same things fun. And that's okay. :3

Thats nice but I'm not done calling bioware on their Horse crap.

I fail to find that statement relevant. The question was, what is the incentive. The answer is because there are people out there who would love DLC. Calling Bioware out on their crap is unrelated. Sounds like you are just fishing up an excuse to complain.

And like I said thats nice that there are folk who want to buy DLC but I won't let bioware off the hook.

Lol. Are you a teenager by chance? You won't let them off the hook? I'm sure they're quivering in their boots. A teenager comes to the foums everyday to complain (most likely because he has nothing better to do in he summer) about vdeo games and his first world problems of not liking how it ended. He doesn't have the gusto to redirect tht passion onto better things, like you know, the community. But he's really making a difference by making this company top of his hit list.

Oh boy. You keep it up sir.

Oh boy How dare I voice my views on the ME3 ending and Please sir keep up being a petty prat.

Lol, you voiced no views to me. You ust talking about Bioware being full of BS. I didn't take any time to read any of your previous posts, so even this post is irrelevant.

Then why reply then?

[Vikali]

iggy4566 wrote...

Then why reply then?

I didn't open dialogue with you. You opened it with me. I didn't even know you posted in this thread, therefore I had no way of knowing your views. You are not OP, so even then, there's no way you could have derived up any sort of notion that I was speaking ot you in any direct or indirect manner at all.

Fact is, you posted some irrelevant response, I told you so, you retaliated, and here we are.

[CronoDragoon]

People regret starting the series at all? For real? That seems....extreme to me despite my hatred of the endings.

[Shaleist]

Skipping everything but the first question asked.

Mass Effects Story is shot, and it isn't being fixed.
Thankfully I prefer the character elements of the series more than the story ...Which should have been a simple 'Stop the Reapers from killing us all' story that turned into 'lol lightshows and space ghosts'.

I guess for me this just means DLC like 'Leviathin of Dis' are pointless and I won't buy them. To paraphrase Javik
"The story is dead now, what does it matter?"
I might care about the characters personal  stories, because somehow I've disconnected them from the bigger story arc. And that's probably why I post in all the threads wanting to fix ME2 arcs and LI arcs, and I would buy DLC focusing on those, since it's still a salvageable part of the story that wasn't properly addressed *in a lot of cases*.

update: Just occured to me that I disconnected the characters from the main story because that is ALSO WHAT BIOWARE DID.  So there is a silver linging to their inconsistent ME3 story arc I guess.

Modifié par Shaleist, 10 juillet 2012 - 11:44 .

[iggy4566]

CronoDragoon wrote...

People regret starting the series at all? For real? That seems....extreme to me despite my hatred of the endings.

It is extreme.

[AnsinJung]

CronoDragoon wrote...

People regret starting the series at all? For real? That seems....extreme to me despite my hatred of the endings.

I almost feel that way.  If I'm ever $100 short of a life saving Bosco purchase, I will regret it fully.

Modifié par AnsinJung, 10 juillet 2012 - 11:15 .

[Mr.House]

1:The concept of the dlc is good
2:It's very enjoyable
3:The dlc is well written
4:Music(Bioware's dlc music is always fantastic)
5:Squadmates having banter in dlc at last

The ending for ME3 while not the best is not that horrible as it destroys the series for me anymore and as long as future dlc packs intrest me, i will buy them. I don't care what their impact was, had I had that thought process I would never have bought any of the dlc for the ME series except Kasumi and Arrival(and Arrival sucked)

[iggy4566]

Vikali wrote...

iggy4566 wrote...

Then why reply then?

I didn't open dialogue with you. You opened it with me. I didn't even know you posted in this thread, therefore I had no way of knowing your views. You are not OP, so even then, there's no way you could have derived up any sort of notion that I was speaking ot you in any direct or indirect manner at all.

Fact is, you posted some irrelevant response, I told you so, you retaliated, and here we are.

The fact was that ya posted a personal attack at me when I said thats nice that folk will buy DLC but I stiil not going stop calling bioware out.

[Renmiri1]

iggy4566 wrote...

CronoDragoon wrote...

People regret starting the series at all? For real? That seems....extreme to me despite my hatred of the endings.

It is extreme.

I do. Sometimes.

When you go to a restaurant and the meal is excellent but you get a turd for desert, don't you sometimes wish you never heard of the restaurant in the first place ? Sure the appetizers and the meal were great but when you are feeling nautious and ill after the meal ended, how good was it really ? 

Is not extreme. I only started playing Mass Effect in March 2012. My friends kept telling me it was a great RPG and in spite of not liking TPS I relented and bought ME2, ME3 and Genesis at the time ME3 became available.

I played ME2 first, meanwhile my friends were playing ME3 and telling me not to even bother buying / playing it. But I really loved ME2 so follishly I kept on playing. ME3 managed to sap my enthusiasm for the series. I still didn't regret playing ME2 but after the EC and the way things look from now on, I feel I wasted my time and money. I wish I hadn't bought into this franchise.

PS: As I said before, I will buy DLC that has more ME2 / ME1 like content. But that is because I've already been "roped in" the series. If I could go back in time and could have known how ME3 and Bioware would play out the ending and the fan feedback, I would not have started ME1 or ME2.  What is the point, to see it all maimed on 3 ? Alas, I've been hooked already so I just have to beg Bioware to take my money 

Modifié par Renmiri1, 10 juillet 2012 - 11:33 .

[The Spamming Troll]

its unfortunate you cant rent DLC or buy it second hand.

[Femlob]

The Spamming Troll wrote...

its unfortunate you cant rent DLC or buy it second hand.

If somebody you know purchased it, you could try playing it at their place. And if all else fails, there is always YouTube.

[Quething]

Shaleist wrote...

I guess for me this just means DLC like 'Leviathin of Dis' are pointless and I won't buy them. To paraphrase Javik
"The story is dead now, what does it matter?"
I might care about the characters personal  stories, because somehow I've disconnected them from the bigger story arc. And that's probably why I post in all the threads wanting to fix ME2 arcs and LI arcs, and I would buy DLC focusing on those, since it's still a salvageable part of the story that wasn't properly addressed *in a lot of cases*.

That's about where I'm at. I still care about the characters, so I'd probably shell out for a VS or ME2 LI DLC. But I don't see any point in "taking back Omega" for Aria when everyone on Omega's just going to starve to death when the Relays go down in another two months anyway. And I have virulently extreme disinterest in anything that expands "Reaper lore" at this point. Any story about the Leviathan is going to be predicated on, and therefore reinforce, the fracktarded Starbrat overlord and "creators destroy the created" idiocy. I already Alt+F4 to get away from that crap in the last ten minutes, why would I spend actual real valuable money on infecting the rest of my game with it?

[Kel Riever]

iggy4566 wrote...

CronoDragoon wrote...

People regret starting the series at all? For real? That seems....extreme to me despite my hatred of the endings.

It is extreme.

It is extreme, and totally understood. 

And a perfect reaction to how extremely bad the end was.

Modifié par Kel Riever, 10 juillet 2012 - 11:28 .

[Memnon]

CSunkyst wrote...

No, because the trilogy ends BADLY I don't care about the rest of the setting.  Right now I greatly regret that I ever played Mass Effect 1 in the first place.  I invested a lot of time and energy into those characters and my player avatar before being forced to commit suicide in the worst most tacked on "heroic sacrafice" I've ever had the displeasure of experiencing, and NO, seeing "my" lonely charred body take one desperate gasp of air does NOT make up for stabbing a friend and a whole bunch of allies in the back.

Whoa now, I wouldn't go that far - I hated the endings and won't buy any more DLC, but there's no way I regret playing ME1 (or ME2 for that matter)

[iggy4566]

Kel Riever wrote...

iggy4566 wrote...

CronoDragoon wrote...

People regret starting the series at all? For real? That seems....extreme to me despite my hatred of the endings.

It is extreme.

It is extreme, and totally understood. 

And a perfect reaction to how extremely bad the end was.

Yeah I understand and I can't even play the first two now But I still love the first two for being boss games.

Modifié par iggy4566, 10 juillet 2012 - 11:35 .

[Blitzhawk65]

Abispa wrote...

I enjoyed ME3 and appreciated the updated endings, so I'll buy it. I'm pretty sure that there are enough people who feel as I do and will buy the DLC, making it successful financially (and, hopefully, as entertainment).

I wholeheartedly believe that if the OP isn't happy with ME3 or the endings the best thing s/he can do to help his/her cause is to not buy the DLC. I'm not going to waste my breath trying to convince the OP that s/he really SHOULD enjoy a game s/he didn't, any more that s/he should try to convince me to NOT enjoy and support a game I like very much.

This is the type of post that I have no problem with.  I am not going to buy non-ending related DLC myself, but I don't have any problems with people who would like to buy non-ending SP DLC.  I personally do not believe there is enough of a market that currently exists to sustain non-ending SP DLC (see Dragon Age 2).  However, there isn't a way to prove that until the next DLC is available so I'm willing to wait for the evidence on that point.

Merely disagreeing with those who did not like the ending is not a bad thing, everyone has their own opinion and I have no problems with that.  However every time one of the pro-enders starts throwing out names, calling the opinions of the anti-enders stupid, posting not to add substance, but just to brazenly disagree, etc., they are galvanizing the anti-enders' opinions and making them that much more likely to pass on the DLC.  It is much harder to make someone buy something than to make someone not buy something so those people are only hurting their own cause.  I would personally like BioWare to make DLC that affects the ending, but if the market is not there and they stop making it SP DLC altogether, then I could care less.  That is not because I want to "ruin it for those who do want DLC," it is because it is my money, I get to choose how I spend it, and I generally do not care about the production of things that I have no personal interest in.

Modifié par Blitzhawk65, 10 juillet 2012 - 11:41 .